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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-01-27 01:09:49
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Just wondering what grips other black mages are using nowadays. I've been using the 8 elemental grips for quite awhile but i've never seen a real need to replace them. I've seen blm use the pax grip and the elemental + 3 grip from time to time. I've thought about getting the elemntal grip but trading 20 mp just for 1 more magic acc didn't seem good to me so I never got it but I could be wrong about this.

plz tell me what grips you use for your nuking sets and why so I can get an idea of what I need for myself.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-27 01:19:23
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8 ele grips... please do yourself a favor and sell them. Get a bugard strap +1, or fast cast/int one if can afford.
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-01-27 01:20:06
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How the *** do you have room to use all 8 elemental grips?
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-27 01:22:25
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I wouldn't use the 8 elemental grips because it's a huge waste of inventory. I use Bugard Strap+1 on RDM, haven't checked or cared to see if there's anything better (never play RDM). Could probably nuke in whatever you want though, it's not a huge deal either way. Just save yourself the inventory and pick something other than the elemental grips.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-27 01:28:54
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Odin.Blazza said:
How the *** do you have room to use all 8 elemental grips?
^

Grip options are pretty meh all around tbh. Elemental gives you macc you don't need and Bugard +1 gives you a very small increase in damage, but they're honestly your best options. The enmity-4 grip is unlikely to impact when you cap hate due to the high damage of your nukes.
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-01-27 01:46:07
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I'd go with vivid strap or vivid strap +1 if you can get it. Even NQ is rare as rocking horse ***because no-one ever kills Dawon apparently, and +1 has never been sold on AH on most servers. But still, it's gewd.

PS. wtf matching avatars.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-01-27 01:47:28
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Odin.Blazza said:
PS. wtf matching avatars.

Eevee is awesome what can I say? :3
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-27 07:52:33
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Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Just wondering what grips other black mages are using nowadays. I've been using the 8 elemental grips for quite awhile but i've never seen a real need to replace them. I've seen blm use the pax grip and the elemental + 3 grip from time to time. I've thought about getting the elemntal grip but trading 20 mp just for 1 more magic acc didn't seem good to me so I never got it but I could be wrong about this.

plz tell me what grips you use for your nuking sets and why so I can get an idea of what I need for myself.

To be honest, I don't think choice of grip has much impact on BLM performance. So, use whatever you want.
I use Elementa Grip for nuking and Macero Grip for enfeebling.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-27 08:21:27
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Use as little grips as possible and the inventory space on something else.

Honestly, I'm a bit hypocritical because I often won't give up an inventory slot for 2mnd for instance yet still use a Bugard Strap +1. I dislike the empty slot and this is one bit of vanity that I allow myself but honestly, grips are a waste of space unless they make a difference or you have the space available.
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-01-27 08:28:32
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Thx guys for your tips. I think for now I'll use the pax grip so my nuking set will have -27 enmity for now while saving up for the vivid strap +1. Time to sell those elemental grips!
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-01-27 09:06:38
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lmao I just bought almost all the ele grips this week to try them out, and I'm not seeing much difference. Guess it's time to sell mine as well.

If only this thread was posted last week...

EDIT: I might hold onto the Ice and Wind ones for enfeebles, just in case.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-01-27 09:07:26
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I would have thought that the Inventory -8 would be enough to dissuade you. :P
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-01-27 09:09:54
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oh god that'd be just like /inventoryexplosion
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-27 09:49:28
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Cerberus.Rayik said:
EDIT: I might hold onto the Ice and Wind ones for enfeebles, just in case.
macero grip, inventory and macc +1
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-01-27 10:15:11
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Rayik said:
EDIT: I might hold onto the Ice and Wind ones for enfeebles, just in case.
macero grip, inventory and macc +1


Good call. *smacks own forehead*

EDIT: Added *own*. I don't want to imply smacking someone else's, I had a brainfart and really did miss that +1.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-01-27 12:28:56
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Cerberus.Rayik said:
I might hold onto the Ice and Wind ones for enfeebles, just in case.

Macero Grip
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By Cerberus.Zandra 2011-01-27 13:17:22
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Grips are cumbersome, I have:

pax grip for heals.
macero grip for enfeebs
elementa grip for nukes
caecus grip for Dark magic

Would trade them all and fulltime vivid strap if i had one.
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By Cerberus.Starr 2011-01-27 14:00:50
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Vivid is weak as hell 2% cast/1% recast at best from tests
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2011-01-27 15:16:33
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Cerberus.Zandra said:
Grips are cumbersome, I have: pax grip for heals. macero grip for enfeebs elementa grip for nukes caecus grip for Dark magic Would trade them all and fulltime vivid strap if i had one.
Grips are mostly terrible.
Pax: Emn really isn't an issue anymore with Atma's..unless im nuking wicked hard then it dies to fast to be an issue.

Macero: Ehh could be good but I still see it as inv-1, but who knows.

Elementa: I haven't needed Ele skill+ since I was 75 now that I'm 90 this is inv -1 for sure.

Vivid: Fast cast has got to be better than ^ all of that even if its a tiny percent. That at least seems useful.

Edit: I'm lazy and care to much about the inventory I have right now..I still use Buggard+1.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 16:43:24
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Cerberus.Starr said:
Vivid is weak as hell 2% cast/1% recast at best from tests
Still has int. The fast cast is just a bonus
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-01-27 17:05:44
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Only grips I carry around on mages are Bugard Strap +1, Reign Grip and Ariesian Grip. The latter doesn't get much use now though.

Edit: I must note I haven't looked at any of the new grips yet.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-01-27 19:05:50
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Titan.Darkwizardzin said:
Just wondering what grips other black mages are using nowadays. I've been using the 8 elemental grips for quite awhile but i've never seen a real need to replace them. I've seen blm use the pax grip and the elemental + 3 grip from time to time. I've thought about getting the elemntal grip but trading 20 mp just for 1 more magic acc didn't seem good to me so I never got it but I could be wrong about this.

plz tell me what grips you use for your nuking sets and why so I can get an idea of what I need for myself.

To be honest, I don't think choice of grip has much impact on BLM performance. So, use whatever you want.
I use Elementa Grip for nuking and Macero Grip for enfeebling.

Thats why you suck.
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By Asura.Kosmik 2011-02-02 06:25:36
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wise strap for the nukes
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-02 06:28:41
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Why are the good comments getting rated down? retards.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-02-02 06:29:17
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Why are the good comments getting rated down? retards.

Because ratings matter.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-02-02 06:30:27
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Why are the good comments getting rated down? retards.

Because ratings matter.

Is this serious?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-02-02 06:31:51
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Leviathan.Draylo said:
Why are the good comments getting rated down? retards.

Because ratings matter.

Is this serious?

Clearly, I mean the fact that ratings are brought up all the time proves that they are an important issue.
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By Diabolos.Cloudg 2011-02-05 22:52:13
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Would Wise strap not be good if you have +2 hands/Hecate's earring
making 11% Mcrit rate, or no?
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By Cerberus.Baleoce 2011-02-12 15:53:19
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Diabolos.Cloudg said:
Would Wise strap not be good if you have +2 hands/Hecate's earring
making 11% Mcrit rate, or no?

I was wondering this too actually. I noticed the other day the "Atma of the Fetching Footpad" seems in theory to tailor nicely towards the AF3+2 set bonus, as well as possible magic crit builds? I was wondering if any BLMs who have the means to test this could post their findings at all? I have no idea how big a boost the atma is though, so I'm more just throwing the question out there. Could be junk for all I know xD Cheers in advance.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-12 16:02:30
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Diabolos.Cloudg said:
Would Wise strap not be good if you have +2 hands/Hecate's earring making 11% Mcrit rate, or no?
Having a higher crit rate wont make +crit rate gear better. Now +crit dmg would. Though highly depends on amount. But it would have to be alot compared to previous +magic crit dmg gear
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