League Of Legends

I am foaming at the mouth. I literally cannot hold back my rage and I wish every disease known to man upon your loved ones. I hope your enemies win the lottery, and I hope you live long enough to see your own downfall.

It has nothing to do with the fact that I like being a vulgar *** to people on the internet.

Two things:

Yes, it's difficult to balance a MOBA because of the numbers of characters and power creep. However, power creep in fighting games doesn't exist, because the design of characters is solid right off the bat. The logical conclusion is that Riot, while having decent design, is unable to reach what designers reached in the 90's with Street Fighter and KOF games. While those games have only half of the roster we're dealing with here, they still managed to reach a 80% viability. It's huge.
Keep in mind that the game is very well balanced when it comes to pro play. Sure, the pool is less than half of what the game offers (LoL), but it's pretty balanced for those 30/40 champions (if that). The design flaws only affect people like us who aren't in this small pro circuit (not speaking challenger series, those aren't professionals save for very few teams).

They do force playstyles. See LCS, it's frowned upon if a pro player doesn't use the specific summoner spells that he "should" use. Supports using Ignite or Smite happen here and there in LCS, for example, but it's still frowned upon by Riot officially.
But at the same time, they seem to want to promote different playstyles while staying within their design of a champion, or role. It's a 50/50 situation, really.
Good ideas, poor implementations, this is the story of Riot.
Imo, they REALLY need some veteran designers of the video game industry and I find it surprising they still haven't hired any, ever.
Riot is doing well considering their small experience, though.

Overall, at our level, we can only accept how things are and adapt. If you're not happy, you can always post on forums, but we're just random, we have no impact. The whole DFG removal is a good example of a nerf/buff that is only taking pro play into consideration. Since there was a reset in ranks, it's safe to say there are going to be more people in Bronze/Silver than in any higher rank for at the very least 6 to 8 months. So they basically *** over the biggest part of the community here with these unneeded buffs.
But once again, we have no impact, what matters is the balance that you see on competitions' streams. It's sad in some ways, but it is LoL's design.

skillshots are bad
because ozone layers and global warming.

wat

Because skill shots are random man. They some times miss because the Riot overlords deemed it so. Nothing to do with skill.

There were several blocks/sets that followed a zero random policy.

And then, you have Hearthstone, with the card I mentioned in my very first post.

Hearthstone offers way too much random ***that have no place in TCG, err, it's not a TCG sorry, but I mean it has no place even in baby's "my first card game ever". Poor design, which is why players try to find ways to go around them, but sometimes you can't.
Whereas in Magic, you build your strategy from top to bottom based on something reliable at all point. Being manascrewed and such isn't due to a random factor, the number of mana you put in your deck is based on ratio. You are pretty much guaranteed to have enough mana at all time.

I remember playing that 11 mana Darksteel Golem in Mirrodin days, in every single game I played in the London's PTQ, sealed draft. If your ratios are correct, mana is always available.

I do hope you know that pointing out a fallacy doesn't make the point he's trying to argue incorrect.

Someone isn't doing too well in their philosophy course :(

you do know, you have to aim the skillshot, with your mouse, right?

What is viable in Diamond and up isn't necessarily viable if played at a Bronze level, yes. And unfortunately, you cannot change that unless you change the champion.

A good example is Fiora being permaban up here while nobody will ever ban her if she's not banned in LCS in anything below plat.

But as much as they take everything into consideration, the ultimate show off for your game are the tournaments. You want your game to shine, so you'll balance mainly toward pro play. We could argue that champions like Quinn are "joke champs" that are targeted at us, shitters, but I don't think they'd go that far. Quinn has a clear niche, but i don't think she was ever targeted at pro play like other carries that came out after/around her were.

What you're trying to say is skill shots CAN miss no matter how good the player or how bad the player they are against and that they CAN also hit.

Basically what you're saying is because something isn't 100% going to land it is unreliable and therefore a bad game mechanic. What is your attempt at resolving this issue? Having every champion in the game be Ryze? Your argument is garbage.

Lol he thinks Plat players get sponsors

how *** cute