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By Kikorimo 2013-05-31 05:22:49
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support ALL the things! \('_')
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 07:02:48
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Hey, you rarely fight for the role and you guarentee the support isnt worse than you are
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-31 07:40:11
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Up to 70LP in Silver I....closing in everyday....but my god some of these games...
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 10:31:07
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Closer you get to gold the worse the players get hue
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-31 11:37:07
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Ill duo queue with u if you want. Can try me out in a few normal games. I've been like 80 lp silver III and 90% im support. I like to believe I play on gold skill level and it usually depends on my adc and how the other lanes do.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 12:00:08
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I'm curious if normal ELO is correlated/reflective of ranked ELO.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-31 12:12:21
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It should be.

There were a few guys on 4chan who had never played ranked in 2 years of game but had insame queue times in normal. They were Platinum and then Diamond right after their placement matches.
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-31 12:19:02
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
Ill duo queue with u if you want. Can try me out in a few normal games. I've been like 80 lp silver III and 90% im support. I like to believe I play on gold skill level and it usually depends on my adc and how the other lanes do.

Im on EUW
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 13:28:37
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

ahri goes like 0/7 and then says "first time ahri"
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-05-31 13:31:33
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

ahri goes like 0/7 and then says "first time ahri"
Story of my ELO career, oh and my fav, the persistent ADC feeding "omg this lag" yep.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 13:34:07
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on top of it we decided to invaded when the enemy bot lane got doubles, and since they got doubles they were level 3 when we were still level 1 (they had zil passive + doubles AND pushed the lane by the time we were back)
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 13:48:58
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Invading seems to have less of a presence these days. Smart counter jungling seems to be the way to do it, at least in the current meta, that I've noticed.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 13:50:02
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Unless you're going to be getting things in their jungle at a fast pace there isn't much of a point to counter jungling

That and I hate, HATE when my jungler goes into the enemy jungle in soloqueue. They always end up dead
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-31 14:07:58
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I only go in with smite to burst down the big mob at a camp. And even then only when I have sight of their jungler.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:09:26
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what usually works best is smiteless blue then take enemy red. then invade when red repops with your mid. either take it and keep messing up the jungle or get a kill. as long as you're smart you'll be safe.


and just to throw in my ranked experience this week. had a 2-8 singed bitching in all caps in all chat about how, "THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ON TEAM WHO FEED TOO MUCH FOR WIN". 2-8... meanwhile i rack up double lux's farm mid and don't die til like 28 mins in.


good times ._.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 14:09:47
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It's rarely a smart move. Agreed.

Since we're on the subject, as a jungler like Sejuani (She happens to be my strongest right now, next to Vi), where is it that I ought to ward? Obviously the enemy jungler is worth consideration, but I never know where to place wards and why. I know where wards OUGHT to be placed, and why, but not when. When do I ward their jungle? Mid? My own buffs? etc.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:11:58
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Asura.Lolserj said: »

That and I hate, HATE when my jungler goes into the enemy jungle in soloqueue. They always end up dead
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 14:12:31
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
It's rarely a smart move. Agreed.

Since we're on the subject, as a jungler like Sejuani (She happens to be my strongest right now, next to Vi), where is it that I ought to ward? Obviously the enemy jungler is worth consideration, but I never know where to place wards and why. I know where wards OUGHT to be placed, and why, but not when. When do I ward their jungle? Mid? My own buffs? etc.

there are too many ward spots to just mention
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 14:13:11
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You can learn a lot for warding when you watch streams, and it will actually give you insight on where you should be placing your pinks
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-31 14:13:13
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I love counter jungling :(
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 14:13:40
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Okay, perhaps more accurately, what's the train of logic when warding as a jungler? If I understand the thesis, I can extrapolate.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:13:51
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
It's rarely a smart move. Agreed.

Since we're on the subject, as a jungler like Sejuani (She happens to be my strongest right now, next to Vi), where is it that I ought to ward? Obviously the enemy jungler is worth consideration, but I never know where to place wards and why. I know where wards OUGHT to be placed, and why, but not when. When do I ward their jungle? Mid? My own buffs? etc.


if mid doesn't have wards or is getting out harassed throwing one down for them can be a big help. otherwise i'd do the enemy blue/tribush top or between red/wraiths. anything that helps a lane or lets you know where the enemy jungle is/going.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 14:16:20
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Okay, perhaps more accurately, what's the train of logic when warding as a jungler? If I understand the thesis, I can extrapolate.

Well

there are a few reasons, one being the fact that you will know when people pass by your wards, you can ward objectives (it is good to pink these when you plan on baiting or doing them), and when you just want more vision in general

though a big part of warding is just knowing where the enemy team is
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 14:16:50
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Which is why you will see wards in the middle of lane after towers go down
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By volkom 2013-05-31 14:18:24
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warding objectives, counter warding. warding for people in lanes.
warding certain areas so you as the jungler along with mid/top can take red/blue and possibly kill their jungler/mid
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 14:20:06
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or raging when you take both golems as the support so you smash your 2 and 3 keys at the same time wasting half of your wards as you're walking back to lane
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By volkom 2013-05-31 14:21:06
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worst feeling ever... warding a bush but it doesn't want to go in.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 14:21:59
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That's what she said?
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:23:02
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volkom said: »
worst feeling ever... warding a bush but it doesn't want to go in.


i have the worst time warding from top blue to the river bush. i know how to do it, but i only get it in like half the time.



Cerberus.Tikal said: »
That's what she said?


well done
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-31 14:23:24
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Also first buff respawns around 1230 so if you ward around 1100 you can coordinate a bank on mid when they go for it. I usually ward wraiths always, in the bush behind red since sometimes they'll pink your wraith in the open area
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