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Server: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-22 04:06:38
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »The MMR increase is quite lethal.
I went from a difference of 28 to 18 (W/L), when I first entered Bronze IV, after 1 defeat at 0LP I was demoted to Bronze V. This time, @0LP, 2 defeats and I'm still in Bronze IV. 1-2 more defeats and you'll be back in bronze V.
there's a grace period when you promote to a new division. The grace period went from 1 defeat to at least 3.
 Bahamut.Kujah
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-22 11:52:28
5 games later and 62 points! Getting there.
Just went 1/9 on Diana early game (epic camp) Finished on 11/9....when I get camped I get angry!
 Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 11:54:05
Thornmail needs a boost. Every ADC rolls life-steal these days, and easily enough to overwrite the damage from Thornmail.
Bahamut.Kujah
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-22 12:00:54
Thornmail needs a boost. Every ADC rolls life-steal these days, and easily enough to overwrite the damage from Thornmail.
^this BT + BotRK is disgusting to 1v1 against.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-22 13:33:15
Thornmail isn't an answer by itself. It has to be paired with other items.
FH, Randuuin's, Tabis are all very important in order to make Thornmail this item that will turn the fights (though, you don't have to build them all).
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 13:38:41
Randuin's is a better choice than Thornmail at this point, hands down. Thornmail is just an additive if you need more armor... but building that much armor anymore, unless you're strictly a tank and the entire other team is flat AD, is dumb. Items like Randuin's, Guardian Angel, and Frozen Heart all overshadow Thornmail. It's not an ADC counter like it used to be. In fact, the only ADC counter these days are anti-carries who can murder them before they react, or focused, debilitating CC.
EDIT: Thornmail reflects 3% of auto-attack damage taken. On a 1000 dmg crit, that's only 30 damage. Carries have about 1,700~ HP at 18.
Frozen Heart has an aura attack speed slow of 20%, AND +500 mana.
Randuin's has 25 less armor, but +500 HP, 20% attack speed slow on-hit, and an AoE active that slows movement speed and attack speed based on armor/MR values.
 Cerberus.Luminiel
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By Cerberus.Luminiel 2013-05-22 14:03:50
Isn't Thornmail 30%? Would that change the above analysis?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 14:05:14
Ah, crap, it is. It sure feels like 3% though. Why the hell does it seem so ineffective then? lol
The damage is even reflected prior to armor considerations.
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By Cerberus.Luminiel 2013-05-22 14:07:08
Good for those AD Yi ulting you moments! (talking about pre-30 matches) :)
Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-05-22 14:18:11
Cerberus.Luminiel said: »Good for those AD Yi ulting you moments! (talking about pre-30 matches) :) I'm pretty sure AD Yi is the only person you can effectly kill with a torn mail.
Sunfire + Thorn + Randuin and watch him 'splode.
Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 14:21:25
Fiora's ult can make her kill herself on Thornmail too. With enough armor, apparently it can dish out more damage than the Champ receiving takes.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-05-22 14:22:18
Fiora's ult can make her kill herself on Thornmail too. With enough armor, apparently it can dish out more damage than the Champ receiving takes. aka...
Malphite.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-22 14:25:59
Cerberus.Luminiel said: »Good for those AD Yi ulting you moments! (talking about pre-30 matches) :) AP Yi, even at level 20!
I usually never build Thornmail because of FH/Randuuin's being enough (and giving more on the way). But if I have full AD in front, oh boy.
Cerberus.Maeldiar
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-22 14:35:58
Thornmail only for rammus imo. On that topic, some rammus games im nearly able to snipe enemy add with a single flash taunt and ultimate combo. Wonder if deathfire grasp increases damage from thornmail and rammus w damage, but I guess it helps the ultimate anyways.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 14:47:29
I would guess that it does, yes. It would also increase damage on his Q, and I'd be curious to know if it increased the damage of Sunfire.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-22 15:23:17
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-22 17:46:47
Heimerdinger vs Heimerdinger: Donger all day long.
I'm actually looking forward to this, I enjoy the lane matchup and zoning a lot.
I regretted to have banned your Elise, Kujah, I wanted to try a new strat against it, maybe next time!
By volkom 2013-05-23 01:42:17
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »Thornmail only for rammus imo. On that topic, some rammus games im nearly able to snipe enemy add with a single flash taunt and ultimate combo. Wonder if deathfire grasp increases damage from thornmail and rammus w damage, but I guess it helps the ultimate anyways. terrible idea. To get dfg on rammus
Cerberus.Maeldiar
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-23 08:41:50
I suppose abyssal would be a much better choice for a final item
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-23 09:53:08
Abyssal would synergy with him, even if it's not as good as other items. I'd probably make a Zhonya, more AP and it synergy with the passive.
I have never touched Rammus though so I have no idea, I wouldn't build AP at all on him given his role, unless extreme advantage.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-23 10:12:35
Yeah I said last item, first 4 items always tanky. You should try him its like having a short range ww ult every 8 secs or so lol. So awesome late game with sunfire thornmail warmogs and bulwark. Nearly unkila, . Whole team runs from you and ifbyou catch an adc out with no cleanse your combo can one shot if theyvhave any attack speed reall. Just sontbmakeba frozen beartbor randuins I find it hurts your dos from taunt.
Edit : lol phone typing
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-23 10:22:37
Oh ya, I was gonna say FH do synergy and Cooldown but it kills the Thornmail combo. What about a CDR item to make sure that you can spam taunt? Gauntlet maybe?
Bahamut.Kujah
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By Bahamut.Kujah 2013-05-23 10:27:16
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I regretted to have banned your Elise, Kujah, I wanted to try a new strat against it, maybe next time!
Whenever I scrim with friends or people that know me they pretty much always ban Elise and Ahri. Probably my two strongest, had people lolcounterpick me in ranked and cry before level 4.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-23 11:08:15
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I regretted to have banned your Elise, Kujah, I wanted to try a new strat against it, maybe next time!
Whenever I scrim with friends or people that know me they pretty much always ban Elise and Ahri. Probably my two strongest, had people lolcounterpick me in ranked and cry before level 4. The strategy I used against your Diana in the second set was what I wanted to do against your Elise.
Xin Zhao was the only other idea I had at this time but I forgot that I don't have him on EU, haha.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-23 11:41:12
Spirit of the ancient golem gives some cdr (they all do I think) could get a shurelia so the supp can get something else, of course 2of doesn't hurt
By Kikorimo 2013-05-24 00:57:35
I cannot believe I just walked out of a game where I was 15/5/59... I've never seen so many assists on one person before @_@
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-24 00:59:26
LCS All-stars is going on now if people are curious.
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/old
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-24 01:24:25
yeah im watching, the 2v2 are pretty cool. also seems like more people in that auditorium than was at the world championships last year lol
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-05-24 01:36:13
What would Heimer do?
Lose.
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By Fenrir.Ayerro 2013-05-24 01:37:00
IF ONLY THE ROCKET HIT. ;__;
Has anyone here at least given this game a try or plays it? I enjoy it a lot for what it's worth. It's a MOBA-style game and it's completely FREE unless you want to buy skins(merely aesthetic) for champions. All the champions are well-balanced and can be purchased with Influence Points earned from matches.
Official Website: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/
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