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Static mate just made a Carn for our dual boxed BRD. Carn/Daru/Marsyas good enough, or should he make the Ghorn while we get the gally for Loughnashade? Leaving S5 Prime away for a sec, I would say what's "mandatory" is by far Dau99 for 4 songs and then Marsyas for Honor March.
Ghorn is good and, most of all, it's relatively cheap and fast to obtain, so really no reason not to get it.
But "mandatory"?
You can get (total) Song+3 on other things like Linos or Miracle Cheer.
So really the difference with Ghorn is what? Missing Song+1.
Some examples:
Minuet5: 210att instead of 223
Minuet4: 190att instead of 201
Herc Etude: 23str instead of 24
Blade Madrigal: 108acc instead of 114
Carol: 144elemental meva instead of 152
I'm not addressing march because most of the time you only use Honor March (which is on Marsyas, so Ghorn can't be used).
If for whatever reason you're using double march (HM+VM) you're gonna reach magic haste cap regardless of being at Song+4 or Song+3.
Last but not least Ghorn provides additional macc for landing debuff songs, altough I wouldn't say they're extraordinarily valuable. Well threnodies on some V25 fights and on Aminon, for sure. For the rest it's an additional nice bonus but I wouldn't say it's the difference between failure or victory.
So, tl;dr, is Ghorn mandatory?
Imho no, it's not. But it's so cheap there's really no reason not to get one.
Make sure you do have the HQ neck (song+3) though- |
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By Dodik on 2026-03-16 07:37:14 |
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Ghorn absolutely required unless you're dinging 99 on a new brd that already has a stage 5 prime horn.
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By Shiva. Thorny on 2026-03-16 07:27:10 |
I think me and AI can do that! 
Potential players be like:
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By . on 2026-03-16 02:43:16 |
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Ive been progressing smoothly in my learnings.
Still going on with pixel art. I just learned the “correct way” to draw a curve, and it drastically improved the feels of the drawing.
Started to do some practical learning in Godot. AI summary of the theoretical part gave me a good foundation, now Im actually interacting with the interface. Maybe the example Im following is kinda messy in terms of program architecture, but I guess exploring options triumphs over doing the correct thing at this stage.
While doing that, got more two nice insights for a game. So far, I got 8 ideas I do think promising:
- dog washing
- dog running
- doggos vs slugs
- a game kinda wario, where the player is a indestructible character, but that can only do long range attacks.
- a similar game to the previous one, but where the character can only do grappling moves.
- a real time card game
- a snooker game but with gimmicks
- finally, my “final challenge” where I can make an isometric game that has some of FFXI, and also something of Tibia (in that you can instantiate the game and play with a small group of friends.
It is a long way, but I think me and AI can do that!
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Static mate just made a Carn for our dual boxed BRD. Carn/Daru/Marsyas good enough, or should he make the Ghorn while we get the gally for Loughnashade? In the long run Gjallarhorn is still BiS for debuff songs even after the Prime is complete IIRC, so if they're looking to be fully kitted out it's still part of the toolkit. And depending on how long it is until they finish the complete version, having +4 songs for maximizing buffs until then is still quite nice. |
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »Just going to throw out there that I've found despite eating the 50% damage reduction twice on hybrids, with malaise and hoxne (which isn't that costly to use on SAM) Jinpu can pretty consistently do 90k+ often capped in Limbus. I tried both Empy and Aeonic and both worked well for this, will probably fine tune this more as my sam needs a lot more master levels and work in general. SAM was not a job I really thought about using Hoxne for before but for the hybrids it can do a lot.
Obviously just switch to your preferred physical ws against mobs that are strong to magic. you sir have gotten me to like limbus again (& using Pocket GEO), thank you.
also: i have found the Ampulla to be very fun on SAM, not just for hybrids, but for tp gain as well, as it makes it much more consistant. if you commit to using it often you can even unmerit zanshin rate & put it into 3rd eye recast instead. Then SAM/DRK & use last resort + seigan/3rd eye, notably fun to do VS the limbus Fomor NMs |
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Is fudo not an option?
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Impulse Drive > Savage Blade makes Fragmentation, so F Boss can be problematic for a Samurai without Mumei.
Any suggestions? I guess just do Impulse Drive only after a given Savage Blade :/
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Shagins appear to take 0 water damage from skillchains Did it use bubble armor? The shell from it added on top of the Zone DT makes them take 0 magic damage. I often Self SC'd then MB'd from my GEO alt, but if they bubble armor, I get 0 damage.
That said, I haven't actually tested water damage. I just thought maybe this was Bubble armor and not an element thing. Theres no bugs on the JP side of the forums about Temenos ??? not appearing, but I did see someone posted a bug that Magic damage becomes 0 after Sahagin's do bubble armor?
9 Months later and this still is not fixed. |
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By Dathus on 2026-03-15 22:02:58 |
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Static mate just made a Carn for our dual boxed BRD. Carn/Daru/Marsyas good enough, or should he make the Ghorn while we get the gally for Loughnashade?
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It's not -6 acc unless your idle set (or whatever you happened to be wearing before hitting these macros) also includes a moonbow whistle and a miracle cheer. It's likely to be +0 madrigal.
You equip 4 FC pieces (and no potency) and then cast a song in whatever set you happened to have on before then.
It's absolutely, unequivocally, not something you can do on BRD.
Even worse, if you don't hit the QC proc then you just started casting a song with no FC, so it's gonna take *** ages to cast.
It's not a thing.
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I did a second Master Trial and I am still rank 8!
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Rings backs and belts have no song potency
This isn't the point of this line of thinking but hilarious. Madrigal+1 does exist specifically on back.
You still can't use QC for exactly the reasons I mentioned above.
So...your idle set is now your midcast set with a few pieces of QC? how about when casting songs while meleeing? You meleeing in QC gear now?
You don't have any concept of how to play vanilla. Just take the L |
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By . on 2026-03-15 19:39:30 |
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@Vyre-kun
PM sent, {Please check your delivery box}
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Miracle cheer 100% of the time madrigal is cast under nitro, don't use a precast set.
Um ok, so what? If we're ignoring QC because of nitro, it doesn't change anything about the fact that QC doesn't work on vanilla. Not everyone has MC, but even if they did, they still need to wear potency gear, so they need a midcast set.
Also, if you're using MC (sets songs to 15 minutes), why are you using troubador, exactly? |
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Each Quest "Grouping" i.e.; Windy, Sandy, Outlands, Other, Aht Urgan should reward a unique mount for finishing them all (or the majority if they dont want certain dumb ones on the list)
Adoulin essentially has this in the mog garden w/ the Morbol or the ring / Ygnas / body+hands lockstyles. The fact that the other nations don't have it leaves 99% of players not completing the content.
The thing is that the hoxne earring existing is enough to get a handful of people doing it alone so they probably dont see any incentive to add more rewards to the system. I'm simply saying it'd be nice. I've always been a proponent of lockstyle/for fun stuff being locked behind completionism tasks
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if vanilla it needs to be part of your idle or casting idle set(if those even exist anymore) midcast set, otherwise itll fire off before you can swap to the midcast set.
You can't use quickcast in vanilla, unless there's no potency set (arise, reraise, etc.)
If you put it in your precast, the midcast won't swap on.
If you put it in your midcast, it doesn't do anything. |
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Thought I'd post some findings for science:
I finally got rank 7 after obtaining 308 more titles (around 705~ total)
201 more RoEs (from the intial login change to MR from the update in NOV?)
Around 55% of Monstrosity completed in terms of levels and species unlocked. (0 level 99, mostly all 40-80 / not all species unlocked)
80 unique Campaign ops + Fiat Lux (S) + Medal of Altana
Mog garden stuff ranked 3 > 5
6 new Survival guide unlocks.
95% of sandy side quests done
60% of windy side quests done
75% of Adoulin side quests done
20% of Jeuno side quests done
Wing skill of 8
2/3 addon missions. Moogle + Shantotto completions. (forgot to add in initial write-up)
Windurst rank 7 > 10 <<<< (this is what ranked me up to 7, the moment I finished rank 10 Windurst mission)
The moment I hit rank 7 I decided to drop my Medal of Altana and work back up to rank 7 and see how much "weight" it had (The wiki's "confirmed" weight is definitely missing context.)
To get back to rank 7 I needed to do 34 quests that rewarded titles (I only done side quests that rewarded titles)
6 more RoEs (simple kill x amount of enemies in zone)
1 new survival guide unlock
3 NM title kills - (Jormungand, Boroka + King Vinegarroon)
11 Wing skill for total of 19.
Ranked back up to 7 after killing the NM King Vinegarroon
does resetting AF quest memory reduce mastery rank ? would be nice way to test other stuff. |
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2 You seem to lack QuickCast which i think would be beneficial.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a problem with quickcast where if the spell goes off immediately it doesn't take midcast into effect? That would lead to significantly weaker bard songs... |
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By Jakey on 2026-03-15 17:53:37 |
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Hoxne Earring at mastery rank 8+ is really good, been going through and checking each ws and it now not only gets into physical ws for jobs that don't have a good JSE ws earring but it also has started fitting into a lot of elemental ws.
That said, yes Mastery rank makes way more sense to list than your nation rank and being able to show off all that work as something other than slightly better ws's on some jobs would be cool.
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When I played Warframe, I (and many others do) kept playing purely to level up mastery rank on the game. You get other stuff (guns, frames etc) you don't even need or want purely to boost the completionist number up.
FFXI in effect has this now, but they a) don't give you a reward for working on it (they should change nation rank on search to mastery rank at this point cause players can see that and nation rank no longer means anything) and B) they make it so confusing that barely anyone past a small handful even engage with it.
There are so many things in this game that could be turned into good things but they don't have enough people to bother, since Fujito refuses to hire anyone else past 2 people +1.
Just add RoE objective page to get the ranks, do 200 quests or whatever the things are.
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1 If you are using gearswap you dont really need DT in your precas assuming you have a midt cast set.
2 You seem to lack QuickCast which i think would be beneficial.
3: Are you dropping HP in your fastcast sets ? if so i would try to avoid it. thats why i love the etiolation earring. its might only be 1FC but it comes with 50 HP and MP
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It is worth knowing that things dont hold the same weight. Anyone who's been doing this for a brief period can come to the same conclusion.
I agree trying to pinpoint "By how much" is a fools errand.
I disagree in the notion that finding out which things are worth the most "weight" isn't worth the effort.
Not everyone will be psychotic like me and many others in this thread and chase 9/10. Many will want 7 or 8 and settle, and knowing the most important things to do for that goal allows them to make better decisions.
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Kinda curious why we're discussing this in the BRD dd thread instead than in the BRD thread? °-°
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By Draylo on 2026-03-15 16:35:34 |
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Yeah they need to free Asura, its the noahs ark and where all the cool kids are.
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By Jakey on 2026-03-15 15:22:31 |
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Ya I always do 135 this was just duo with a idris geo malaise and indi haste then sylvie qultada and monberaux. My sam is only ML24 so don't even have the last drg ws dmg trait from sub. Attack was a bit of a problem so empy seemed overall better but if i put defense down on either could 99999. I didn't even switch from my lehko's ring yet.
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If you replace a file in your install, it will be the same file for every instance of the game you launch. Either you have two installs or you didn't restart the game on your alts.
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By Byrne on 2026-03-15 15:15:04 |
Tourist v1.4 is live! This includes the much requested support for Feretory.
Bug fixes:
New Feature(s):
If you don't want to redownload the entire addon:
Files to update: 'tourist.lua', 'dialogs.lua', 'npcs.lua' and new images 'data\large\285.png' + 'data\small\285.png' |
