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By cynez on 2025-08-24 07:19:27
I was wondering if anyone ran into an issue with the nameplates not changing when applying the dat mod but all of the other ui aspects changing. Any possible reasons I may not be considering?
By Garfield on 2025-08-24 06:49:37
I only 2box, little more limited in options.

I never stated I wanted to ws spam without sc, quite the opposite, I'm asking about prime damage because of how easy they are to 3step. If my brd stays naegling, sword has savage> burning blade > flat blade > savage, utilizing 2 ***DMG ws I might as well just do 4 savages.

I've even tried sch+geo doing oshala > helix and double burst, usually kills 130mobs unless they are heavily magic resistant like the one floor in apollyon. But that's exhausting to maintain and doesn't work on certain mobs id have to avoid or job change, so it's not practical.

You gave me a dagger 4step, but considering my only dagger pre-prime will be my non-aftergow'd carn, I don't expect much, I'll do a test run of it tho.

For kicks let's speculate, if ruthless did even 25k full buffed am3. And iirc the dt in limbus also affects sc DMG so, 25k + 25k + 20k fusion + 25k ws + 50k light would be 145k DMG combined.

To compare, I said my savage does ~35k, 4 savages would be 140k. So prime would reduce 1 ws and allow me to keep my 2box geo, which then could potentially burst if the mob still doesn't die. Thus improving my efficiency at soloing Limbus.

But, idk if ruthless would do 25k in Limbus, so I was asking anyone with experience if they had the answer. I am no where close to making even stage 3, I think my brd has 300k gally? I forget offhand. But my current next stage 3 is going to be dagger, and I'm deciding to take it to stage 4 or skip and move onto prime axe for BST.
By Byrthnoth on 2025-08-24 06:22:56
Violent Flourish is the best use for them on DNC. We gained a ton of MAcc/Acc for it with that release. I keep meaning to run around seeing what I can stun but haven't gotten it done yet.
By Akumasama on 2025-08-24 06:20:51
Ragnarok.Sasiki said: »
People still using Ternion Dagger +1?
I probably shouldn't but I still am.
Been slowly replacing it with Gleti in most (but not all) of my sets.

I'm lazy!
By ikariiiii on 2025-08-24 06:15:00
People still using Ternion Dagger +1?
By mhomho on 2025-08-24 05:59:54
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »

Not even remotely true. Heishi does 99k every few seconds.

Sure. When you can use Chi or To on an enemy specifically weak to that.

Also, if you're doing a best weapons list, why would you not include primes?


Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »

If you're including primes, then daurdabla and gjallar are ***-tier. If you're not including primes then there's absolutely no universe where gjallarhorn is C tier, you sir are high as ***.

So if Ghorn os bad when you include primes (assume F-tier), but good when you don't (assume A or S), then overall would it not make sense tonput it somewhere in the middle? C-tier.

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
You're free to rank things with whatever off the wall scale you can think of, but saying calad isn't good because you wanna play WAR is a wild way to rank weapons, IMO.

I didn't say Caladbolg isn't good. I said:
mhomho said: »
Would you put Caladbolg in S or A? Caladbolg Drk is really good, no? But Wat is maybe a better day job so Chango goes up in value because war isn't on Caladbolg, but it is on Helheim. So is greatsword War better with Helheim?

So you didn't answer he question. Would you put Caladbolg in S or A?
Where would you put Helheim in the rankings? If Helheim is S. Is Caladbolg also S to you? When you overbloat the S tier it loses it's meaning. It's not because I wanna play greatswodd War over Drk because there's some specific fights where you need Drk to mitigate TP feed to the enemy, no? So maybe in one or two fights Drk outshines War, but overall which weapon are you getting the most bang for your buck. Which has the greatest effective value.
Your average weapon is C-tier. Not A-tier.
You get too emotional and make no rankings. You just say a blanket statement like all Aeonics should be A-tier and I'm like, really? even Staff and Club? That's why I can't take you as seriously objective.

Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
As an aside: you can absolutely make a loughnashade without ever making a daurdabla or a gjallarhorn. Bring another job to sortie.
But that's not the point of the argument. That's why when you're like, but you can just an Aeonic. You could pay a merc to do most content for you. That defeats the purpose. It's not just what do you need to get it. It's how useful is it to the job as a whole in relation to things like acquisition method in relation time, cost investment, and overall how useful or powerful it is for the job. Six months for an Ergon seems long at first as you have to get Legend in every Coalition, but how long is it to makena Prime? A year? What do you during that interim? Your answer is play other jobs. Truth be told, that's not the right answer because the question is: which weapon is the best; not, how do you jerk off? The reason to consider or call it the interim is because the option never falls off the table. It's not: Daurdabla or Loughnashade (like if you pick one you miss out on the other because a completionist will have all of them). It's, how would you rate them, Daurdabla and Loughnashade in relation to all of the PREMA weapons?
How is Heishi compared to Dokuku? Now compare Heishi to Masamune, Doji, Calad, and Chango?
You're so quick to criticize my evaluation. Share yours. Rank them all in relation to one another.
Do you include Bonanza weapons?

Like sure. Yagyu Darkblade is a cute parlor trick. Fudo Masamune Yagyu Darkblade is a fun tank stance. Does it completely change Nin the same way Epeolatry helps out Run? I don't think so. I'd put Yagyu at C-tier. Maybe B-tier.
By maletaru on 2025-08-24 05:50:35
Asura.Sechs said: »
But it's kinda hard when you're in a PUG (or even with friends...) and everybody keeps on engaging your target and spamming Savage Blade or whatever else ruining your awesome chance to two-shot or three-shot targets thanks to SC damage...

I agree with what you're saying as well and considered that but...this guy's 3-boxing by himself so he should focus on making a SC with himself (and maybe magic bursting it too!).

If you're doing Limbus in a party of 6...***'s gonna die so fast it doesn't matter WTF you do.
By Akumasama on 2025-08-24 05:35:29
Garfield said: »
Free login in a week
See? Nynja you can give money to me in a week!
If 40m is too much I will be overly happy even with just 20m man!

I just lost 40m a few days ago because I'm a *** stupid ***, so anything that helps me compensate for that loss would be more than welcome.

ktnxbai <3
By Akumasama on 2025-08-24 05:32:59
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I think you should really consider SC properties a lot more in a limbus situation.
I couldn't agree more!

But it's kinda hard when you're in a PUG (or even with friends...) and everybody keeps on engaging your target and spamming Savage Blade or whatever else ruining your awesome chance to two-shot or three-shot targets thanks to SC damage...

What I'm trying to say is: I strongly support Maletaru's point on SC damage, but it's not always something you can rely on, sadly.
By Tarage on 2025-08-24 05:18:11
Out of curiosity, how many spheres does one need to make a shield?
By . on 2025-08-24 04:57:03
Ok, now it is 7am, so you guys can resume your bickering.
By Jakey on 2025-08-24 04:27:27
Asura.Melliny said: »
Quote:
Here ran out to limbus to see how far over cap I'm at this was with trust buffs and a brd without aria. So that's more than 30k to spare over cap against a normal mob. Probably goes a bit higher only did a few but I think this demonstrates you don't need qutrubs to cap damage with shining one.


Cherry picking numbers isn't really going to win you this argument. We all know how strong shining one is, and we're all aware of what dragoon can do with a lance. The simple fact is that the math favors Gae Buide by a considerable margin. More than enough to put its damage output well ahead of shining one. Diarmuid is ridiculously good. And posting "But look at my numbers with XYZ" isn't going to change that. I can post numbers with "XYZ" "ABC" or "LOP" too you know.

Nobody is saying that shining one is suddenly weak. It's always been in the same category as naegling. Naegling just takes the spotlight because it has 3 times more jobs on it, support jobs included. But the prime weapons do surpass ambuscade weapons, and turning your head to look the other way just because you don't have one yet won't make that not be true.
First I never said Shining one was better... you're the one deleting what I quoted of maletaru saying that I needed qutrubs to cap shining one damage so that you could say no one is saying shining one is bad, maletaru was saying that and that's what I was responding to.

What I was trying to argue (I guess poorly) is the prime lance doesn't seem like a huge outlier as far as primes go once you compare it to what DRG can do with other polearms like shining one, DRG just generally hits like a truck no matter what. Now somehow that has turned into I think Primes are bad because I defended that Shining one is good?
By Dodik on 2025-08-24 04:16:25
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
Clearly trolling, not responding any further to that.

How exactly am I trolling by asking you how much time it takes you to farm ambu.

Still waiting for an answer. You sound like a politician whenever someone brings up pot laws.

Lol weed. Lol farming ambu? Nah I just pay mercs for that bro, what a silly question.
By Dodik on 2025-08-24 04:13:09
If you're an idris geo and that club don't glow green, you my friend are a gimp.

"But it's not woooorth it", the poor gimp says.
By . on 2025-08-24 03:23:54
Btw, it is 5am.

You two nerds, get back to sleep .
By Garfield on 2025-08-24 03:08:43
Well if anyone has not made up numbers, I'm still interested in hearing them :)
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-08-24 02:23:18
I know yous a batty boy
By . on 2025-08-24 02:21:59
Replying with that face makes you automatically wrong, regardless if you are right!
By . on 2025-08-24 02:20:56
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Just saw the cast for Blade Runner 2099

Prime Video be like:


Are you even the target audience, lol?

Gonna defend the slug here, but your reply makes no sense.

He made a point he considered the cast probably too expensive, what is a valid opinion regardless of movie, but you replied like "oh, but is the moviefor you?"

BUT you replied with the following face:

By maletaru on 2025-08-24 02:17:01
I can see the argument either way, but I personally use null shawl for my TP set. I don't use any of the rest but they could work in a step set if you're doing that (I don't bother).

Belt for idle regen if you're into that kinda thing
By silvanesti on 2025-08-24 01:55:26
Do any of the null pieces find a permanent spot in any of dnc's sets? Or only as situational acc swaps? I guess good to own, to have options when building your sets.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-08-24 01:50:44
Live look at Afanis tryna dunk on me:
By . on 2025-08-24 01:46:29
Not accusing Nynja is a tourist but I quickly read blade runner sub and I already see tourists invasion making comments that absolutely don't "get" the core theme of this IP. My head hurts....
By maletaru on 2025-08-24 01:42:21
Breaks the theme!
By NynJa on 2025-08-24 01:39:14
By maletaru on 2025-08-24 01:34:15
Not everyone has been playing for 5 years getting gil every week, tbh.

Is it bragging time tho?

By maletaru on 2025-08-24 01:28:42
I made up the 30k, honestly. I haven't done BRD melee on the character with the dagger in Limbus for a while. Even if it weren't 30k though, it will 100% without a doubt beat Savage spam.

You can easily do SC without prime too. Mordant Mordant evisceration rudra's is a SC i do all the time. I'm sure there are a bunch more. Anything should beat spamming WS with no SC.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-08-24 01:21:31
Afania said: »
Are you even the target audience, lol?
Based on Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049, yeah I should fall under the target audience.
By NynJa on 2025-08-24 01:05:03
Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Send me money to activate the account.

stop being a poor, bruh
Theres a difference between a poor and wasting money for no reason.

Poor's have no money.
By Yandaime on 2025-08-24 00:32:06
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
ItemSet 393695

Too late, asked and answered.

lol damn you, Male haha.
My WHM cure set is very similar to that but Ebers +2, Queller's Rod, Cleric's +1 and I have different Rings and a different Earring. Cure Pot is capped, Cure Pot II is high without the extra MP Expense (Some Care, Some don't, I prefer not to worry about it)

I've been performing pretty good on WHM so far for the times I use it but it's a job that puts me to sleep so I don't want to push money into it if I don't intend to use it to the fullest?
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