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By phot0nic on 2025-12-07 23:54:09
I know there's been some discussion concerning the Limbus chests, and I just wanted to say that I don't believe the theory of the 5k chest cycling between each of the 4 zones before resetting is correct. My most recent Temenos 5k chests have been East, West, East, and East. All four of those have been opened after the most recent server maintenance, but not all within the same week. I know that two of the same chests in a row don't necessarily disprove this theory, but I'm pretty sure the behavior I've observed does.
By Nariont on 2025-12-07 23:31:39
It's only the highest +2 earring augment for bst, people get those all the time
By K123 on 2025-12-07 22:13:47
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Imagine giving a rats fat *** about your character name

How sad
Especially when your name is *** "male taru", the least interesting, novel, creative name possible.
By Vyrerus on 2025-12-07 22:06:36
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
So what's really your beef with a less invasive measure than full merger?
This one?
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
There are no 2k sized servers anyways. If you merged the two smallest servers, it would become the 4th biggest server.

Basic math
Cerb 2942 + Sylph 3035 = 5977

Asura 12k
Odin 11.9k
Bahamut 11.1k
Sylphberus 6k <-
Phoenix 5.5k
That one, but also the one about why/what you like about being on small server. You, personally. You!

And I know you missed it, or chose to ignore it, but Dex laid out that he used small server merging as an example, but his actual want would be some arrangement where they incentivize players to leave the big 3 and migrate to low pop for a few percents of population.

5% from each of the big 3 is like 1800 players moving into the other 13 servers. It's way less extreme than a merger. If they evenly spread out it'd be about 139 players going to each server. The horror! (of course, whatever the incentive is, they may just move to the next biggest server to collect, but whatevs. XIV does this thing a lot with enhanced EXP gains for choosing small servers and other niceties)

I'm on Bahammie nowadays, and even though it's supposed to be crowded, most people dogpile endgame. You only find crowds at Mhaura, Rabao, Limbus, Selbina, Norg, Sparks vendors, Curio moogle zones, Nashmau, Kamihr Drifts Bivouac #4, and the Eastern Adoulin AH. Most people are AFK if not actively in an event, and it doesn't feel any more crowded to me than being on Bismarck, Sylph, or Odin (all servers I have played on in excess of 1 year+ in the past). With the exception of there's way less Japanese than when I was on Odin, and so there's less language barrier issues. And I can't manipulate conquest all by myself (granted the regions I care about manipulating are ones I can't really gain exemplar in so...).

And I, personally, didn't move to a higher pop server for the higher pop. I moved to Bahamut because my brother was playing there (well, is). In the past I only moved off of Asura to Bismarck to be with the girl I liked at the time. Later I moved from Bismarck to Sylph to play with Shadowlina. I moved off of Sylph to Odin to play with my friend from XIV, Vox.

In general, I think most people operate the same way or at least in a similar way. There needs to be a strong social incentive to uproot and move servers, or a strong gameplay one. When server transfers were first introduced they were largely used by endgame shells looking to take the resources they'd gained on higher pop servers, so they could dominate HNM timers on small servers. Hell, even Asura was victim to that, back in 2007 when the HNMLS Twentyfourseven transferred onto Asura from wherever the hell they came from.

Not a lot of folks instantly started transferring servers left and right. The only way to experience another server would be to purchase another character slot, and make one on the different server, and they didn't allow server choice til sometime in the 2010s as far as I recall, meaning you rolled the dice or got someone to golden world pass you to experience other servers.

Which, you know, brings up the fact that your metric for accounts being associated with servers is useless. You can have multiple characters on the same account all be on different servers. Some people do, some people game the different server economies that way, even.

But most folks just like where they landed. They built their relationships/groups/LSes, and if it ain't broke, don't transfer. It has less to do with population size, and more to do with having no real reason to transfer. I'm sure there's plenty of folks on smaller servers who think to themselves, "It would be nice if I could find groups more easily when my group can't be online, but I can be... but it's not worth throwing away what I have here."

So I think it would be more accurate to say that most FFXI players are happy to be where their friends are.
By Eiryl on 2025-12-07 22:06:16
Imagine giving a rats fat *** about your character name

How sad
By Richybear on 2025-12-07 21:54:55
You realize it's more to do with if someone has your name and your buddies all think it's you like "Hey, K123, wanna go do some Ambu?" but the person who has the name K123 is like "*** you guys. I banged all of your moms" or whatever.
Meanwhile K123 now has to change his name to Icantimgur or something and tell a whole lotta people that K123 isn't actually him
By godofgods1 on 2025-12-07 21:54:34


Good?
Havnt been able to be active in ages. So a little out of the loop atm. But from what i remember way back of my bst.. looks nice'
By K123 on 2025-12-07 21:52:11
Maletaru said:
but muh video game name hnnnngggggg
k lol
By Vyrerus on 2025-12-07 21:08:53
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
If I were still on a small server,
But you're not, so please dont talk about what the experience for people on small servers should be like because you prefer to be on a larger server. People on small servers are getting their preferable experience, evidenced by the fact theyre continuing to pay 12.95 per month subscription fee to FFXI to play on their small server instead of:
a-unsubscribing
b-paying $9 and migrating to a larger server
Answer my question.
By K123 on 2025-12-07 20:22:24
tl;dr
By Vyrerus on 2025-12-07 20:21:17
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Sortie is long grindy content that isnt really PuG friendly.

Sortie's actually really PUG friendly if you're a good communicator, and have at least a solid friend or two to keep a through-line in case the PUGs are bad.

Party content in and of itself just has the strict six person limit, such that almost nobody in the group can just show up and be completely carried. Everyone has to do a bare minimum level of work to get the content done to a satisfactory degree.

There was a 1-2 month period this year where I had to PUG 1-2(sometimes 3) members in my Sortie group everyday. And at the time we were barely managing 6 boss clears. But everyday my shouts were answered by multiple people, even some JP. One time our LS's resident 6-boxer even came on his COR w/o his 6-box (his thoughts were, "How do you live like this?")

And this is really no different than grouping for EXP used to be in this game. You used to be expected to show up, and able to follow basic instructions on where camp was, what SCs were being employed if any, who was pulling, who was healing, who was trying to tank etc. etc.

The thing people really seem to hate about Sortie is the lockout, but also that it can't really be exploited like a lot of other content. It doesn't really tie into the game economy in a, "If I do this content, it will make me filthy rich." sort of way.

It really is good content, if a bit repetitive (with a little too much running). But that's XI in a nutshell anyway.


-----------

Anyway, small servers can be nice, but it's always a little weird having as much control over the game world as you can on a small server. A couple years back I was on Odin when its pop was a lot lower, and I was able to change multiple zones to Bastok per week just by exping or meriting at 75 in them. Can't do that on bigger servers.

And that's what you want and like, isn't it? The world being your oyster? Well, it's not your oyster. It's your timeshare at SE's behest.

You don't have to like high pop servers, and you don't have to be on one(for now), but XI is ultimately part of a business, and they will do merges again if push comes to shove. Conservative approaches like Dexprozius suggests are far less invasive than mergers, but mergers are SE's modus operandi, so I don't get why you're all up in arms about the suggestion.

If I were still on a small server, I'd love a small injection of players as suggested. In my experience groups on small servers will put you on a ***list for the slighest of transgressions (you sold something at full price instead of letting Johnny Small Server Prince have it at half price. Obviously you're a selfish money grubbing ***, and shouldn't be allowed into any groups.) More players means more opportunities, fresh faces, new crafters, and more parties can be made to do party content. Everything about it is good from a big picture perspective.

So what's really your beef with a less invasive measure than full merger?
By K123 on 2025-12-07 20:02:34
It would be a really bad *** move, but it is also SE.
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:58:04
It could retro update the box at end of maint.

But it would be rather on point for SE to introduce new content that will be locked out for an additional 24 days due to this shitty 4 week system they implemented.
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:51:26
It is largely SE fault, particularly when they make things where you have an advantage if you have 16 chars and then even more accounts with 16 chars (e.g. Ambu grinding currency).
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:47:38
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
You continue to shout "Dont like it get out". What's your ideal # of players on your server? Just yourself?
The ideal # of players is one where I dont have to *** about congestion and lineups when trying to partake in content.

The number its at right now is perfect, thanks for asking.
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:46:08
What if I told you one of the issues of the current state of the game was SE moving to party only content?
Sortie is long grindy content that isnt really PuG friendly.
Gaol requires 303000 segments at minimum to work your way from V0 to V25 Bumba kill, that presumes going 1/1 on every kill only using 1 KI, and also doesnt factor in RP farming. This number goes down if you have someone to carry you up a couple tiers, but thats not a small number.
Even Omen started as party content.

Party content tied behind a daily use-it-or-lose-it entry whos rewards are gated behind a long grind for currency is *** up the current state of the game
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:44:39
This is the weird thing though. If these people only want to play with their inbred clan of 2-3 other people, would they make their own server together with noone else on it if they were given the option? I'm guessing not because, being an MMO, they want to the gear to impress people they will never even play with.

It is a very strange situation created in FFXI that never happened before and will never happen in any other MMO.
By Dexprozius on 2025-12-07 19:43:10
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
And yet you play on the most popular server for the ability to get PuGs, so what makes you think *** up the smaller servers will fix anything?

Again, I dont see why you're so adamant that my proposed 5% pop. increase would somehow *** UP your entire play experience. If your intention is to play by yourself, you're going to do that anyway regardless of who's on your server or not.

You continue to shout "Dont like it get out". What's your ideal # of players on your server? Just yourself?
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:37:52
And yet you play on the most popular server for the ability to get PuGs, so what makes you think *** up the smaller servers will fix anything?
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:36:50
Not just those, more the "omfg how cud u ever ask me to play with anyone but these 2 people that can stand me on [insert Wrong Turn server] when they never want to leave because we're in this weird homo polyamorous bff situation" people. Not sure if Nynja is one of them but there are a few that normally post in these threads.
By lugado on 2025-12-07 19:35:25
Call me crazy but I've always used jump to fill a gap left to ws faster when applicable
By Dexprozius on 2025-12-07 19:35:09
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Nope. My first Sandworm I killed for the first title and it also took 3 days to respawn. After that I just had it Doomvoid every time and don't think I did anything different. I just dragged it to survival guides, brought it to 30% HP with Subduction spam, then whacked it with KClub until it Doomvoided.

Literally what I've been doing... but then no pop one day and lost TOD... bizarre.

I do think someone needs to update the wiki to correctly represent the behavior that Overworld Sandworm killed = 3 day respawn.
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:23:47
Dex is right, the inbred LAN party people are what got other servers locked so you are negatively impacting our experience, so can hardly *** we want that the other way around.
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:19:32
Again
Here us why i dont care:

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
If you hate the server you're on, but you keep paying $12.95 for your miserable experience instead of paying an extra $9 to server hop to a 5k++ pop server because you believe it will make your experience better, you're an absolute *** fool.

Server hopping is s thing. Anyone who doesnt want to be on a small server can literally leave at any time they want.
By Jakey on 2025-12-07 19:17:40
Very real possibility that the chests don't upgrade for a month, we had to wait a week last time NMs were added but chest upgrades were based on the week not the month back then.

They could always change things though.
By Llewelyn on 2025-12-07 19:16:07
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
LightningHelix said: »
Someone just updated the BG Wiki Titles page claiming that all three of Adumbration Disperser / Alluvion Assailant / Queller of Otherworldly Gales are acquired by killing Balamor's Adumbration inside Skirmishes. (in three distinct areas - Cirdas / Yorcia / Rala respectively)
That was me. I just finished getting those titles.
Got Alluvion Cirdas title after doing Torso V and killing Balamor.
Did not get Alluvion Rala title after doing Torso V and not getting Balamor. (3 times)
Got Alluvion Rala title after doing Torso III and getting Balamor.
Note you have to use the Fenestral Key after the Balamor kill before you can get the title.

Edit: Also just got this. That's a nice one to get off my list. 1/11


In your 11 kills did you notice odd behavior...?

Ive been camping 2 weeks now, one day someome killed Regular sandworm and it took 3 days to respawn. Then the other day after I killed it the day prior, it did not respawn in the 20-25 hr window.... and yes I know someone didnt sneak it from under my nose.
Nope. My first Sandworm I killed for the first title and it also took 3 days to respawn. After that I just had it Doomvoid every time and don't think I did anything different. I just dragged it to survival guides, brought it to 30% HP with Subduction spam, then whacked it with KClub until it Doomvoided.
By NynJa on 2025-12-07 19:13:18
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
And as people leave the small servers more and more, it eventually gets to the point that servers become so inactive that SE is forced to take action. That's what happened during the last merger many moons ago. Regardless of how you may enjoy roaming wastelands by yourself, SE from a business standpoint has every right to cut costs and condense where they see fit.

My original premise that, as someone on a highly populated server who sees congestion at its worst, I can say with confidence that if you were to see a population increase, whether its from a merge up or from incentivized migration down, you'd still be content doing all the content you want by yourself. You're simply adamant that other people like myself are wrong and you shudder at the idea of one additional player logged into a zone you want to occupy... I also have the perspective of a player who's server was merged in the 75 era with another server, as most people can attest to.

Also, Many players simply play where they were put and deal with the cards they were dealt. It's not a matter or Wanting to be somewhere or not. They made their toon in 00's some point in the early days, came back from a hiatus and are making it work at their own pace. It's not really fair to say to them "Well just leave its only 9-18 $". They can still find it frustrating that they cant team up like they once used to be able to. They shouldn't have to pay a premium to enjoy their gameplay experience just because you selfishly want them to leave.

I think the fracture in our perspectives stems from my lack of sympathy for the desire for an empty server. I dont really see what your insistence on having this exclusive sandbox to play in comes from. I'm not advocating for server mergers per-se, but i'm not against them. What I want is a redistribution of players to make it less extreme. That'd have the bottom servers see a 5-10% increase of players and the top servers see a 5-10% decrease in players. I truly believe if you had 5% more players on your server you wouldnt even notice
Dont care
Worry about your cesspool server instead of pitching ideas that *** my server up
Thanks
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:07:55
Correct if I'm wrong but nothing will be in chest until after the first Sunday??
By K123 on 2025-12-07 19:05:39
I'm good. I'm not playing an MMO like a LAN party
By K123 on 2025-12-07 18:58:16
Foxfire said: »
K123 said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
The people on small servers are there by choice because they want to play a massive multiplayer online game with just themselves or the 2 people that can stand them
ok
I mean, you act like this is a gotcha but this is literally the approach people have on Asura. It's very insular. Lots of people sixbox content or just do stuff with their circle of friends/LS. Few people pug and it's usually the same six or seven people; the rest of the shouts are bots. The only difference is that lowpop servers just have less competition, less spam and an emptier AH.
I don't disagree that there are a lot of people that do that. I also think they should be banished to small servers.
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