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By Seun on 2025-11-06 10:52:46
Dodik said: »
Don't be that guy.

If I hadn't had to be the guy who had to explain why people didn't need to waste segs on multiple V1 kills...
By Dodik on 2025-11-06 10:18:08
Grouping up with anyone to clear V0/V1.

Someone that only has V0 clears doesn't need to be told they need a V1 clear. They know because they lack the ability to augment anything. Once they do clear anything above V0, they will know they can augment anything they already have because they will be able to augment it.

What if they don't check? That's on them.

Personally I always do V1 clears for people so they get some points and can open their augments and make themselves feel better. It's not very fun to get Nyame clears on V0 only to find out you have no RP to even open an R1 augment.

Don't be that guy.
By Sakuraba on 2025-11-06 10:11:03
That is kinda force u to pay 15 bucks for 15 case +1 <== More than what u regular run Sortie in the months .. ya I agrees, if u not 9boss .. 16/months is indeed a lot
I used 4mules regularly ... but for someone who often only use 1 main + 1 mules .. this is almost double the sub fee

Logging in 15 characters is a big chore ... it takes~ 1 min if u do NOTHING. The 30 sec logging off IN TOWN should be cut down to 5 sec really. 30sec outside to prevent people from cheating death with log off is logical, but in town is incomprehensible
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Someone already point out ... beastman seal still 10 point so it is doubling up price of KC BCNM60. Besides, if +1 box would always drain ur point ... the BS might not be "issue
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By . on 2025-11-06 10:09:55
Drayco said: »
Just how much money we talking about here? I'll post pics of my hobbit feet for money. I have very little shame these days.

I normally charge $100/pic, but as Im a nice guy, Im sending you a cortesy free pic
By Seun on 2025-11-06 09:59:18
Call it nitpick, but there are people who mistakenly think they need a V1 clear for the specific boss they want to aug armor for. Knowing that isn't necessary will save them 3k segs that are probably harder for them to come by than they are for us.
By Dodik on 2025-11-06 09:55:04
Also don't need to nitpick every statement looking for things to correct but here we are. <3
By Seun on 2025-11-06 09:50:44
You don't need V1 clears. You only need one clear that awards RP, then you can augment any armor you have up to rank 15.
By Chanti on 2025-11-06 09:38:42
PAGED!!!

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By Chanti on 2025-11-06 09:36:41
Asura.Saevel said: »
Leviathan.Andret said: »
Capitalism is like PUGB or King of the Hill. Kill people, take their loot, upgrade your weapons to kill better and die with the most loot.
Such an accurate description of every attempt at communism ever made... well the killing of people and taking their loot part. Turns out people are very motivated to not "donate" their private property to a government, so that government ends up having to use guns and ditches to acquire said private property.
Sorry, but every form of government is, at its root, a kleptocracy.

Asura.Saevel said: »
Leviathan.Andret said: »
After playing boss with a small business for a while. I realized the holy truth of the average worker. Essentially, only about a handful of people are getting the good pay and promotion simply because they can do the work of 2-3 people and always seem to be available for everything you need. Everyone else are expendable. If you aren't the memorable superstar, you are another cog in the machine and you can get replaced very quickly
Yes this is just how humans are. Most will only do the bare minimum to not get fired. A handful really take pride in what they do and will push themselves, sometimes unhealthily, to solve challenges and move things forward. Good management recognizes the distinction and takes care of those highly motivated people while using the bare minimum folks to do the menial or repetitive work and make space for the super stars. Poorly managed organizations end up not doing this and cause those super stars to either become demotivated, or just leave for another place.
Most of the bosses I have had fall into two categories.

1, Doesn't matter how good you are at what you do you are as a replaceable cog as anyone else. Raises are not based on merit.

2, Recognizes your worth, gives out raises based on what you do, lays you off and hires someone at the rate you started with.

Of course when you actually turn out product rather than push paper your work output and quality shows.
By Rairin on 2025-11-06 09:19:02
i didn't say you could leech a prime weapon without completing tvr, but are you arguing that completing the missions and logging in once a day should eventually get you a prime..?

i'm honestly just baffled at the attitude here, it seems patently obvious that reducing the longest term content to login and idle would be bad.. but whatever, i'll just have to be glad that SE sees it my way
By palladin9479 on 2025-11-06 09:18:48
Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Leviathan.Andret said: »
After playing boss with a small business for a while. I realized the holy truth of the average worker. Essentially, only about a handful of people are getting the good pay and promotion simply because they can do the work of 2-3 people and always seem to be available for everything you need. Everyone else are expendable. If you aren't the memorable superstar, you are another cog in the machine and you can get replaced very quickly.

I've been a lead for a couple years, and this is hitting me hard now that I'm rebuilding the team from basically scratch. I've stopped more than once to think "Are my standards too high or does this person really just lack this much?".

Some days I'm doing the work of 3-4 people instead of actually leading.

You end up having a mix, a handful of high performers that are making change then a bunch of button pushers that do the menial stuff you do not want to burden your high performers with. Unless you are stupendously lucky, you won't be able to have an entire team of high performers.
By palladin9479 on 2025-11-06 09:17:23
Felgarr said: »
After a certain amount of time, every employee (including those superstars) will go home and decide if all their hardwork was worth it. Some people will make a shift and decide to work only so they can develop their passions, which could just be growing grapes in their backyard. Not everyone dreams of work from age 18-65 the entire time.

This entirely depends on your view of "work" and what motivates you. If you view "work" as something you do to get money so you can pay the bills and do something else, then you will naturally want to do the absolute minimum to get that money, this is natural. If someone's hobbies and past times are relevant to the work field, then they will not see it as "work" and be a lot more motivated. These guys are the innovators who create change.

Of course we then run into corporate politics and how much room those innovative individuals have to move. The larger and more bureaucratic an organization is, the less space the usually is for those individuals to excel.
By Dodik on 2025-11-06 09:16:27
Without the last TVR mission your Sortie muffin cap is 100k and you cannot leech a full set of +3.

You can leech one +3 at a time, then need to keep upgrading.

And you definitely cannot leech a prime weapon past stage 2.
By Rairin on 2025-11-06 09:15:17
don't need the last tvr mission to sit in sortie and leech a full set of +3, you just have the limit

if the argument is that sortie should be more accessible so the mission line can be completed, then eh.. i kind of agree on that point, but it's still dwarfed by the impact it'd have on the game

something like they did for vagary where you can fight a seperate bc against upstairs bosses would be nice. don't eat sortie timer for helpers, but only reward is a one-time stage 2 prime
By NynJa on 2025-11-06 09:13:17
Shiva.Thorny said: »
the hardest mission in SOA is easier than:
delve
sinister reign
vagary
escha
omen
dyna-d
lilith
odyssey t1v0
and pretty much anything else you might get gear from..
Now this is just flat out *** lmao
By Dodik on 2025-11-06 09:09:18
The last TVR mission is pretty difficult to clear for someone new and pretty impossible solo, and also requires you do enough Sortie to upgrade to a stage 2 weapon.
By NynJa on 2025-11-06 09:01:46
Shiva.Thorny said: »
it's pretty obvious that giving fresh players a way to jump straight to the highest gear/content without contributing
This this topic is centered around Sortie, let me remind you that the barrier to entry is clearing all of SoA and all of RoV, which also involves getting though a decent portion of the previous expansions as well.

The only "fresh player" in Sortie is someone who has previously been banned and knows what they're doing, and even that will still take some time. Theres no "fresh off the boat" player getting to Sortie in less than a month, and thats being generous.
By Rairin on 2025-11-06 08:42:59
can't address the point so meme about it? got it

the only 'goalpost' i've ever made is that relaxing requirements encourages leeching which alters the progression for everyone and degrades the game

you can't make content that's too hard to sell, but price and scope still matter..
By NynJa on 2025-11-06 08:40:48
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-11-06 08:15:31
If you have to ask big man, you cant afford it.
By . on 2025-11-06 08:10:55
Just how much money we talking about here? I'll post pics of my hobbit feet for money. I have very little shame these days.
By Classikmage on 2025-11-06 08:10:47
I would not in the least be surprised to find out Asura actually has RMT selling Aminon kills to people that just don't feel like dealing with it.
By Classikmage on 2025-11-06 08:03:57
Quetzalcoatl.Khajit said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Asura.Cossack said: »
Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.

Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?

No "cult" required.
A person on asura doing a shout instead of paying for it? Perish the thought!

Much easier to buy gil from the 1000+ RMT on the server than ro actually do the content.... or just cut out the middle man and buy the CONTENT from the RMT.
By Khajit on 2025-11-06 07:58:46
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Asura.Cossack said: »
Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.

Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?

No "cult" required.
A person on asura doing a shout instead of paying for it? Perish the thought!
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-11-06 07:57:53
*** them kids
The war is a money laundering scheme
They likely voted for it
I am here
So what?
By Zeroize on 2025-11-06 07:47:43
Why does there seem to be some kind of animosity between official server players and private server players? I played on Horizon a back when it launched, and while I enjoyed myself it made me realize that I simply didn't have the time to really dive in like I did as a kid. Which is why the official servers are more tailored for someone like me.

I understand the appeal of both. What I don't understand is this weird rivalry. Very good chance the Venn diagrams for Public server and Private servers overlap very little, so one doesn't really affect the other, no?
By on 2025-11-06 07:38:23
By Krizz on 2025-11-06 06:50:23
Leviathan.Andret said: »
After playing boss with a small business for a while. I realized the holy truth of the average worker. Essentially, only about a handful of people are getting the good pay and promotion simply because they can do the work of 2-3 people and always seem to be available for everything you need. Everyone else are expendable. If you aren't the memorable superstar, you are another cog in the machine and you can get replaced very quickly.

I've been a lead for a couple years, and this is hitting me hard now that I'm rebuilding the team from basically scratch. I've stopped more than once to think "Are my standards too high or does this person really just lack this much?".

Some days I'm doing the work of 3-4 people instead of actually leading.
By maletaru on 2025-11-06 03:59:52
Asura.Cossack said: »
Soloing sortie blows. Sortie being time gated to basically one run a day locks players in either cultishly tight statics, or *** +3 and primes, Ill just play a different game status.

Call me a broken record but...what's to stop 2 of those "I'll just play a different game" people from teaming up and killing 1 or 2 basement bosses? How about 3 or 4 of them group up, randomly when their schedules line up, and doing 6 boss runs?

No "cult" required.
By . on 2025-11-06 03:53:04
Just think that next time you play a game with a woman protagonist, you filthy gooners.

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