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If you had to attribute/recommend a minimum master level for Aminon, and perhaps basement Sortie in general, what would your recommendation be?
For general endgame, I'd recommend 30 as a baseline for most content... its easily achievable and provides the bulk of your stats.
For aminon specifically, 45 is ideal for most jobs. Allows new PLDs who sub RUN to get foil, allows RDM and GEO subbing dark to get the next tier of Occult Acumen, and its just overall alot more stats.
That being said, 45 is a much longer grind than 30, and 30 is EASILY serviceable. Realistically, you could kill Aminon at ML0. Its just a huge chunk of accuracy/macc you're losing |
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Normal people dont use Lehko's ring anyway, so just slot in a Moonlight ring instead w/ the AF+4 pants and you're basically fine
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By Dodik on 2026-02-06 15:53:49 |
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Idk the progression after the 50%. Someone else can chime in.
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By Dodik on 2026-02-06 15:16:29 |
It doesnt halve every time. Its 100% units the first time, then half if you repeat or are unable to get the temp item because you opened box 5x that week.
Isn't that what I said? Half if you repeat a bar on the same floor without going up. |
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We just kill in the middle somewhere, did it 3 times and we reach 12K/hour. It does take some work and around 600 mobs/hour, for reference. We try both area, need a minimum of 20 spawn mobs for a party of 6
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Get points every time a bar is filled, every X number of mobs depending on tower size.
100% first time, then 50%, then 25% and so forth - idk the cap.
An alliance of 12 gets 50% of points per each character.
Meaning an alliance of 12 needs to kill 2x the number of mobs for the same amount of points compared to a party of 6. 110 per bar fill seems to be the floor. So i guess what your saying is just keep moving and filling the bar is faster than just camping on one floor |
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By NynJa on 2026-02-06 14:42:10 |
Here's the real catch - if you're botting EP why aren't you botting Limbus to get EP and Limbus points at the same time?
Idk
Try going through my post history and see how many times ive said something akin to “im not being cockblocked by units”. |
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2026-02-06 14:36:36 |
It's Naginata guys, not naganata. Naginata. Nagi
Naga
Na ganna work here no more thats for sure lol |
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How does farming the units work? Do you get for each mob? or only each time you fill the bar? Temenos for example takes 4 mobs to fill the bar on the first 3 towers. What determines how much you get?
Would you be faster if you were in an alliance? or do the points per bar fill go down based on number of people in party/alliance?
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2026-02-06 14:11:20 |
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By Radec on 2026-02-06 14:11:06 |
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I'm trying to reduce the number of /checks I have to do when searching Temenos.
Small sample size, but yesterday I found/killed 3 ITGs and they were all the 3rd ID in the pack. If anyone has been tracking ITG IDs, have you seen either a non-3rd ID mob, or can you confirm 3rd ID mobs?
Temenos Evil Weapon (N1, NW corner)
ID 16928781 / Hex 0x102500D
Group Hex is 0x102500[B,C,D,E,F]
Temenos Golem (W2, East Ramp)
16928954 / 0x10250BA
Group Hex is 0x10250B[8,9,A,B,C]
Temenos Doll (C1, NW corner)
16929275 / 0x10251FB
Group Hex is 0x10251F[9,A,B,C,D]
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By Eiryl on 2026-02-06 13:26:45 |
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Same set every other job wears. Ammurapi embla and 5/5 telchine
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If only Gil was a motivator. Honestly if solo I’d rather watch a moogle spin for an hour than do a limbus.
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That’s what I would go with for single hit BPs, it’s more defensive over apogee feet also, the downside is the time it takes to max it
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By . on 2026-02-06 12:45:40 |
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Dang...
I passed the 17k posts mark and we didnt have a party!
You guys bring cakes, food and coke.
And hot women
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2026-02-06 12:34:25 |
It is just that Ms Chatty gets angry when she is not the one paging. Nope. I do try to post a pic when I do page though. |
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By . on 2026-02-06 12:28:09 |
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BTW, back to topic of isekais, after being heaviky hyped to read SSS Suicidal Revival Class Hunter, I picked it to check.
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By . on 2026-02-06 12:22:56 |
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It is just that Ms Chatty gets angry when she is not the one paging.
So, I decided to delete my post so she could be the first post in page, but you guys ruined my good intentions
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Mars Orb is a free 2.5M. I'll take 5M between my main and one mule, for the low effort of clearing out my Dbox throughout the month, something I already do anyways.
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By Anza on 2026-02-06 12:06:53 |
The empyrean items weren't the 1500 point item, murky matter is
It's always connected. The 1500 point item last month was... three empyrean items. And honestly, I'd have been a little annoyed if I had to choose between 3x empy items and an Old Case +1 in any month.
Quote: It's the same exact argument as mars orb. You get 10+ matter per month. But you only get one from log in. That's not even worth the effort.
Hahahahahahahahaha you act like I'm doing all those Limbus climbs. I'll gladly take the murky/alabaster matter on my main when they show up.
And those are totally not the same thing as going to speak to an NPC once for a free monthly Mars Orb. Also, 10 Mars Orbs a month? That's a very try-hard approach, if you want to spend that much time doing stuff to get Mars Orbs, knock yourself out. I'll use my time on other things.
Quote: If the matters were same account sendable though, they'd have had a banger. You'd have seen millions of dollar mules firing up.
Now that's the truth.
Could have atleast been a Venus Orb for 1500 points.
That too.
This isn't a bad compromise. The choice of an Amatter, Mmatter, trove orb, earring+1, or impish box monthly
Yeah that does seem ideal, and quite reasonable. But if we can't have perfect, I'm fine with the occasional miss of a month if they more or less continue giving us pretty decent quality login reward like they have been recently. |
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By . on 2026-02-06 12:00:14 |
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They don't call him a brown for nothin.
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By NynJa on 2026-02-06 11:42:18 |
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Could have atleast been a Venus Orb for 1500 points.
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By enoch on 2026-02-06 11:29:42 |
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don't think i'd mind if they were venus and sendable
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By Jinxs on 2026-02-06 11:28:08 |
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A wiki page with that costume weapon spreadsheet visualized would be so awesome
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By Genoxd on 2026-02-06 11:12:10 |
Normally, Restraint gives Delay / 385 worth of WSD
Do 20/20 job points decrease the 385 denominator to 231?
How does that interact with Boii Mufflers +3, which are termed as Restraint +130?
Something like 2.3*Delay/231 WSD? Feels weird to modify both the numerator and denominator.
Yup, it caps at 30% bonus naturally and the gloves multiply that.
I don't think it's that odd, it's just a unique trait. JP decreases time to hit cap, gloves increase damage you get per hit. |
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By Asura. Vyre on 2026-02-06 11:11:55 |
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Panta up in here starting a new page, but then deleting his post about how he's snort up Bath & Body works smells all day long.
What are you ashamed of? You're a dog!
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By NynJa on 2026-02-06 10:45:19 |
Could've just despawned it with a command. 100% chance "despawn with a command" sets a different flag than "killed". |
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why are we suddenly complaining about cosmetic gear in 2026, from an event that came out 2019 no less
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did besieged today and didn't get a bunch of temps (really only had Giant's Drink, Revit and few other random useless things) so i was thinking NPCs got captured, but on the besieged map it doesn't show anywhere as having prisoners.
does it take a bit for the conquest map to update? I need my damn braver's drink and solider's drink and etc so I can more easily Intervene charmed people to death during undead swarm
I also ran into this issue while dual boxing two characters in a Besieged today, and one of my characters was missing temps that the other one did receive. Weird.
Interesting. I did see a few dead Volunteer NPCs during the besieged that I noticed I had like no temps, but I was only single-boxing during that besieged. I had friends who were with me who said they didn't get them either though, and our server still shows no prisoners at the moment.
Haaven't hit another besieged since then to see if the temps or back or what but it definitely seemed kinda odd. |
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I think the bigger issue with warrior's relic legs over revelation is the fact that revelation has similar offensive stats on top of being defensive. Revelation has 7% crit rate, which while not quite as strong as 11 DA damage is still really solid, and it also comes with 7 store TP and 7 -dt. With the way Disaster, savage, and judgment scale off TP that 7 STP is more than enough to swing me over to its side. For the record, I had Boii cuisses +3 in my laphria set prior to the revelation swap for the 10 PDL, so I was doing the same thing you were just with PDL over DA damage, but I'd take revelation over both boii and agoge any day. Boii and Agoge are both sidegrades to each other for a bigger white damage tp build, but revelation is an actual upgrade. Revelation is the best of everything here. It's offensive AND defensive. It's just plain better imo.
Side note for laphria owners and future owners here. Since stage 5 Laphria has 10 double attack on it directly it means you can use a separate TP cape with 10 STP on it for the great axe build.
You are very bias about DT and overlooking meva. Revelation legs are 30meva loss against Agoge+4. DT is much easier to make up in the set than meva. You keep saying Revelation is better defensively and you completely ignoring the meva aspect and the fact that you are dropping below meva threshold that will let you resist even slightly older end game content. |
