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With the exception of Absolute Virtue, no content was particularly difficult after we figured it out.
I mean, it seems like they've hesitant about pressuring players to do tough fights since the PW debacle. In 2016, when they did decide to return to the idea of "Apex Encounters", they explicitly decided to give them cosmetic rewards only. As best I can tell, the game has had difficult encounters, but not many people want to clear for a cosmetic. And as easy(?) as the V25s were, it was difficult enough to cause a fair share of rage-quits.
This is just my limited new(ish) player's perspective. Could be wrong.
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By Bismarck. Nickeny on 2025-12-11 11:47:09
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Damn, a wild pervy frog appeared

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Alternative thought to the 0/1. Maybe instead of getting the ???, its finding the mob that IS ITG instead.
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By Rairin on 2025-12-11 11:34:23
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I usually agree with you on just about everything, but be real here. It was mentioned in one month's version update 3 years ago and it's not commonly discussed. I think there are probably quite a few people who weren't aware it was possible, so the thread could be extremely helpful.
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because SE didn't implement the Blue mage / automaton spell sets that they announced on 1/1/2025 ...but I think what we got in Limbus and content in 2025 is much better (at least so far)
Wasn't that still on the roadmap as of last freshly picked or did they completely drop it? I thought it was still in the works.
Still wish they'd rework the jug system for BST...
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Let's all chill out, and take this to PMs or somewhere else. Dev Tracker discussion has had enough of it, me thinks.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »I dunno, that body piece for brd looks pretty nice.
Does it though? Compared to Ashera:
Acc-3, atk-3, STP-2, DT-1 (in the new body's favor), Meva+4, MDB+2, Resist Paralyze-90, and...crit rate?
I don't think if I had the new body, I would actually wear it, even if it were 100% free. I mean, maybe I would...but I don't think I would.
I guess if you don't have Ashera it's nice, but in terms of "all available options", I think the body is very meh (pending augs).
Eh? The new body only drops STP by 2 and the resist para the rest the other body is well ahead even acc/att when accounting for the STR and DEX increase.
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I'm 0/Don't Ask on Gin, but if they made Omen bodies part of a Magian thing where you had to trade scales with the corresponding body to +1 it, well.....
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Chi Blast/Ageha on everything except Thunder Gartell
Ageha shouldn't work on D/H unless it's in right mode afaik.
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Thank you very much, sorry again do you have mnk sets.
Any particular gear needed for other jobs and do you split for shards/ any specific metal needed. We don't bother splitting up for objectives. Mainly since I tri-box the SAM, BRD and COR and I don't have the ability to handle sending all my characters out to do different things simultaneously.
I don't really know if there's "particular gear" required that I can think of unless you count Godhands, S3+ Kusanagi, Idris, and S3+ Loughnashade which of course are all good to have.
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ah interesting different per server
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sorry if i missed it ~ any other finding here or can anyone confirm?
Apollyon:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Shadow Dragons Killed
Temenos:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found ... this is going to be hard
X/300 Unseelies (confirm?) Killed
The enemy types are chosen randomly and are not consistent across servers, so this question can't be answered.
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Could you post a rough strategie for the other 8 bosses, like do you kite, just mnk x% of time etc?
Would realy be interested in attemping this starting wiht 6-8 bosses 1st Open all bosses with Dia III/Light Shot. Chi Blast/Ageha on everything except Thunder Gartell. March/Madrigal/Minuet/Aria for your general songs. RDM should be MLv10+ for Curaga III access. MLv30+ for Auspice is optional but helpful. GEO Fury Frailty on everything except F boss.
E: All on it. Sulpor Valiance.
SAM Jinpu, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
F: Do after H so you have SV songs. Bolster Barrier, Frailty, Entrust Fury.
All on it. Gelus or Tellus Valiance depending on mode.
SAM Mumei, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Rudra or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
G: All on it. Lux Valiance. Frazzle.
SAM Kagero or Koki, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
H: SAM and MNK on it only. SV March/Madrigal/Minuetx2/Aria. Do F after to get both in with SV songs.
SAM Mumei/Fudo, MNK Tornado/Raging.
Thank you very much, sorry again do you have mnk sets.
Any particular gear needed for other jobs and do you split for shards/ any specific metal needed.
Sorry to bombard you wiht questions
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For Apollyon on Ragnarok, it seems like Objective 4 is Undead kills, and Objective 5 is Demons.
For Temenos, the objective seems to be Elementals, not just pixies.
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sorry if i missed it ~ any other finding here or can anyone confirm?
Apollyon:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Shadow Dragons Killed
Temenos:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found ... this is going to be hard
X/300 Unseelies (confirm?) Killed
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There is only one person dedicated enough to track down Negan. His name is Billnes
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Could you post a rough strategie for the other 8 bosses, like do you kite, just mnk x% of time etc?
Would realy be interested in attemping this starting wiht 6-8 bosses 1st Open all bosses with Dia III/Light Shot. Chi Blast/Ageha on everything except Thunder Gartell. March/Madrigal/Minuet/Aria for your general songs. RDM should be MLv10+ for Curaga III access. MLv30+ for Auspice is optional but helpful. GEO Fury Frailty on everything except F boss.
E: All on it. Sulpor Valiance.
SAM Jinpu, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
F: Do after H so you have SV songs. Bolster Barrier, Frailty, Entrust Fury.
All on it. Gelus or Tellus Valiance depending on mode.
SAM Mumei, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Rudra or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
G: All on it. Lux Valiance. Frazzle.
SAM Kagero or Koki, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
H: SAM and MNK on it only. SV March/Madrigal/Minuetx2/Aria. Do F after to get both in with SV songs.
SAM Mumei/Fudo, MNK Tornado/Raging.
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By Taint on 2025-12-11 09:37:30
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I'm assuming we still have no idea how to reliably get the ??? in temenos, correct?
I think we do its just more of a pain in Temenos.
Its a random mob type, that must be killed over and over until the NM pops and the NM drops the ???. Plenty of reports of NMs being killed but not dropping the ???.
In Temenos everyone focuses on the quick easier mobs near the port which leaves entire types of mobs neglected more often that Apollyon.
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I'm assuming we still have no idea how to reliably get the ??? in temenos, correct?
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By Bismarck. Nickeny on 2025-12-11 09:26:57
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Damn- Negan hasn't posted in a while. Put up the Negan signal
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FWIW WS range is always 1 yalm longer than Melee range on the same mob so you can park your butt at 5.1' or whatever and get the "out of range" message when you try to autoattack but your WS macro still goes off just fine.
You won't know the exact distance without an addon, but you can still creep forward until the WS macro successfully goes off full vanilla! I'm aware, but the SAM is outputting a lot of damage and often taking hate from the MNK from 100%>30% or so, so they can't stay out of range since they'll often be Aminon's target.
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By K123 on 2025-12-11 08:48:52
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Sorry to let you down, I've only been subbed about 30% of the months since 2011. Not even half of the last 12 months. I'm happy for anyone that finds intellectual stimulation, challenge, and life fulfillment in easy, repetitive content but personally not for me. I enjoyed playing FF3 3D remake more than ffxi for years. You really seem to hate this game, and it makes you act like a reprehensible person in forums. That's a pretty difficult platform to stand on while questioning other (ostensibly more stable) people's choices of what to do with their time. If you enjoy the game, play it. If you don't enjoy it, belligerently attacking strangers on the internet probably isn't the best expression of your dissatisfaction. (To be clear, I'm not attacking you. I can see this causes you pain and I truly hope you feel ok. Drowning in anger feels like ***; I know firsthand.) Nice sock account and I appreciate that you're so interested and passionate about my life that you're willing to play pseudo psychologist and write me an essay.
I don't hate the game, it was great, it's just sad how less and challenging and more repetitive it is getting. What offends my intelligence is the people in denial, people happily wasting their lives and so deluded and duped by SE they think they're "good at ffxi". Be my guest to waste your lives. I don't think you'll be wishing you made more primes when on your deathbeds though. Obviously if you've known nothing else since the age of 13 your life is *** though.
Making primes is a waste of time, but having over 3,000 posts in 2 years on a forum dedicated to a game one admittedly has played <30% of the time since 2011 is a great use of time, supposedly
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By K123 on 2025-12-11 08:40:56
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P.S. responding to a low lifer that stalks you and shitposts essays at you misrepresenting everything you said isn't "attacking people" do either you haven't been trolling this forum on sock accounts for long enough or you need to go work on your logical reasoning or back to YouTube psychology university.
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By . on 2025-12-11 08:38:50
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I miss the time where we had another fine lad to appreciate a good AI muscular chad dog aside me.
Hope Negan Froggs is well, wherever you are.
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By K123 on 2025-12-11 08:38:35
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Sorry to let you down, I've only been subbed about 30% of the months since 2011. Not even half of the last 12 months. I'm happy for anyone that finds intellectual stimulation, challenge, and life fulfillment in easy, repetitive content but personally not for me. I enjoyed playing FF3 3D remake more than ffxi for years. You really seem to hate this game, and it makes you act like a reprehensible person in forums. That's a pretty difficult platform to stand on while questioning other (ostensibly more stable) people's choices of what to do with their time. If you enjoy the game, play it. If you don't enjoy it, belligerently attacking strangers on the internet probably isn't the best expression of your dissatisfaction. (To be clear, I'm not attacking you. I can see this causes you pain and I truly hope you feel ok. Drowning in anger feels like ***; I know firsthand.) Nice sock account and I appreciate that you're so interested and passionate about my life that you're willing to play pseudo psychologist and write me an essay.
I don't hate the game, it was great, it's just sad how less and challenging and more repetitive it is getting. What offends my intelligence is the people in denial, people happily wasting their lives and so deluded and duped by SE they think they're "good at ffxi". Be my guest to waste your lives. I don't think you'll be wishing you made more primes when on your deathbeds though. Obviously if you've known nothing else since the age of 13 your life is *** though.
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Am I just not awake yet, or maybe I'm overthinking, but did SE release content that will not be properly usable for two, maybe even three, months?
Were currently on blue boxes here and I know we had all the NM's killed before the 4 week rollover.
Doubt it. It's probably the same thing as last time: people misunderstanding the graphic because the colors/design is awful.
My prediction:
Only the last 4 weeks' result affects the chest.
If you killed W1 only, you get a Brown/gold chest.
If you killed W2 also, you get the Red chest.
If you killed W3, you get the Gold chest.
In the picture, this is the green box "total defeated", and the green box "treasure chest upgrade"
Then 4 weeks later, the same thing is evaluated. This is the blue boxes in the graphic.
Then 4 weeks later, the same thing is evaluated. This is the red boxes in the graphic.
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Limbus T2 NMs:
Everything moves at greatly enhanced movement speeds, but Bind lands on everything without issue by a geared RDM. Since they can all link with each other from across the entire zone, binding two and focusing one is the best way to handle them without an insane amount of deaths. A well-supported tank can also handle one in a corner if you can keep the other two off of them. Their auto attacks hit for 800-900 per hit regardless of defenses, and they use a TP move every ~15-20 seconds no matter how much TP they should have. Evasion tanking can still kind of work, but the threshold is much higher (RUN needed SV Mambos and Blind II to evade consistently) and they all have elemental attacks anyway. Shadow tanking with NIN might work better. If you focus one at a time, they'll fall pretty quickly if they're being properly tanked and the other two NMs are being held off. If the other two (or all three) are running around freely, you're going to die very quickly regardless of job or buffs.
Temenos:
NMs are Khryoskhimaira, Ironclad, and Mammet.
Khimaira casts -ja spells and can use all normal Khimaira TP moves + Fulmination at low HP%. Didn't see Lithic Breath. Fulmination spam can cause a full wipe, but maybe height differences in the zone can help block it? A well-supported RUN can also live through the spam long enough to finish it off.
Ironclad has all the normal TP moves except for Eradicator (or at least he didn't use it). Ballistic Kick, in particular, does ~2500+ damage and can kill large groups of people at once if he's running around firing it at max distance. Between that, Turbine Cyclone, and AoE basics, this guy is easily the worst of the three besides low-health Khim.
Mammet swapped between sword, staff, and polearm that I saw, preferring sword. He didn't use his physical absorb TP move or cast, but he used all other Mammet TP moves. Of the three, he's the easiest by far for a RDM to hold in a corner with Bind.
Apollyon:
NMs are Dvergr, Vampyr, and Wyrm (Vrtra).
Dvergr died really quickly and I was focused elsewhere so I didn't see much of what he did. From what others told me, he casts -ja spells and has normal Dvergr TP moves.
Vampyr has Decollation, Wings of Gehenna, and Bloodrake for certain. I was focused on the Wyrm at this point so I didn't see much of this, but apparently it kept Stunning everyone for long periods of time until a tank got control of it. It may or may not have the Vampyr Charm/Doom/Terror TP moves. Of note, Repose landed on this towards the beginning - Sleep/Repose might land on other things as well?
Wyrm has normal Vrtra TP moves (Horrid Roar, Absolute Terror, Cyclone Wing, Sable Breath, Spike Flail). Spike Flail's range seems to be limited only to directly behind him, but everyone behind him died the one time he did use it. However, at 80% he took flight and remained flying until the other two NMs died. While flying, he only ever did Cyclone Wing, which he spammed for 1500 unresisted damage and Sleep in normal Wing AoE. Naturally, this wiped a LOT of people until I got it under control and forced it to stay still long enough for the Vampyr to die. Dark Carols help a LOT with this and a RUN with SV Dark Carols can very easily hold it while flying. Bind kind of worked while flying, but it wore off frequently (maybe people were RAing it...). After the Vampyr died, it used Touchdown and didn't fly again the rest of the fight.
TL;DR Bind/tank two in a corner, kill the third, have Poison Potions/DoT gear ready for Wyrm. The hardest part by far is getting everything controlled without mass deaths. Not sure how feasible it's going to be to kill these NMs after the initial hype dies down, especially for lower pop servers...
Omega/Ultima require all 22 fomor NMs to die, 250 chest openings, and 2 ??? spawns. Time to finally figure out what exactly spawns Temenos' ??? I guess!
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I was just a part of wave2 clear in Apollyon and I enjoyed it a lot. Required on the spot adaptation. There was initial chaos with the Wyrm. It flew in the air at 80% and started to kill everyone with Cyclone Wing. Mischief took it on the side and we focused on Dvergr, it was pretty easy, but Paralyze and Curse was annoying.
Vampyr was a problem when he was on the lose (Mischief bound it at start, but some JP guys hit it). Wings of Gehenna is a big problem if it hits many people including healers. Stun is very long. I haven't noticed Dread Spikes, but maybe we were lucky. It charmed someone I think and otherwise went down fast after it was properly tanked by PLD (Tappo).
Wyrm (Vrtra model) finally went back down and we were able to zerg it all the way without any more air time. Cyclone Wing was still annoying even with double carol.
I gave Mischief all the info I noticed during the fight, so maybe he will make some more detailed post later (he killed wave 2 Temenos too).
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