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 Shiva.Gylfie
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-17 12:45:47
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I just looked and Hagun has dropped in price by about 1m on my server, idk about anyone elses.

Did one of these new magian GKs beat Hagun? I haven't been paying attention.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-17 12:47:12
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Apparently the dmg + one beats out the hagun on Rana, but the Hagun just edges them out on Y/G/K
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-04-17 12:48:30
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In short the answer is currently no. The raddenotachi with DMG+10 gives about 89 total base damage with the same 450 delay as the hagun.

The problem currently is that if you only straight melee with no WS's.... raddennotachi wins.

But as soon as you WS like usual hagun begins to pull ahead.

The biggest thing to remember, more paths for the trial moogle are due to be released. So it's not even done yet with DMG+10.

With a level 99 cap hagun is doomed but who knows how long it will take.

It will always be a decent weapon but i think people are starting to realize that it's time in the limelight might be coming to an eventual end.
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By Odin.Oldive 2010-04-17 12:49:05
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Apparently the dmg one beats out the hagun on Rana, but the Hagun just edges them out on Y/G/K

^ Correct.

Also as you do y/g/k with higher than 100% tp. Hagun's edge over the new one gets better and better.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-04-17 12:49:18
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Apparently the dmg one beats out the hagun on Rana, but the Hagun just edges them out on Y/G/K
In short that yeah, It's badass for rana i have the raddenotachi myself. Hagun will slightly win for y/k/g still but i can't wait to see the next path or so.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-17 12:51:14
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Occasionally attacks twice beats out Hagun.
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-17 13:06:13
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Occasionally attacks twice beats out Hagun.
srs or you trollin
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-17 13:15:31
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Shiva.Gylfie said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Occasionally attacks twice beats out Hagun.
srs or you trollin
srs
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By Leviathan.Thornyy 2010-04-17 13:17:23
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Realistically, it depends on how JA/WS delay is quantified.

Hagun, Soboro, and the higher damage occasionally attacks twice GK are all within less than 5% damage of each other before quantifying it, though clearly Soboro and the OAT GK are losing more from WS delay than Hagun is.
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-04-17 13:21:51
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Gylfie said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Occasionally attacks twice beats out Hagun.
srs or you trollin
srs
You suck I didn't want to do this magian crap ._.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-04-17 13:49:15
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Pretty much all the HQ OAT ones are amazing.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-17 13:49:42
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Bismarck.Altar said:
Pretty much all the HQ OAT ones are amazing.
Cept the h2h, they blow
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-17 13:53:44
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bismarck.Altar said:
Pretty much all the HQ OAT ones are amazing.
Cept the h2h, they blow

So all the Magian knuckles are made of suck then?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-17 13:55:27
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bismarck.Altar said:
Pretty much all the HQ OAT ones are amazing.
Cept the h2h, they blow

So all the Magian knuckles are made of suck then?
The dmg 21 55 delay ones are sidegradeish/slight upgradeish to destroyers, still lose to faith baghs though.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-17 13:58:31
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Bismarck.Altar said:
Pretty much all the HQ OAT ones are amazing.
Cept the h2h, they blow

So all the Magian knuckles are made of suck then?
The dmg 21 55 delay ones are sidegradeish/slight upgradeish to destroyers, still lose to faith baghs though.

/sigh

Ah well, I can hope with the next trial updates the knuckles won't be made of suck.