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 Lakshmi.Darkapple
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By Lakshmi.Darkapple 2012-02-17 23:43:42
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Heyo!!! Nice to meet you too
And yeaaaa, i got a pic of it on my facebook lol, i took it when i got them for my birthday.
McNuggets....................... I have the ultimate craving for mcdonalds now wtf, i wish i had a car to drive there now >_<
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-17 23:46:48
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Lakshmi.Darkapple said: »
Heyo!!! Nice to meet you too
And yeaaaa, i got a pic of it on my facebook lol, i took it when i got them for my birthday.
McNuggets....................... I have the ultimate craving for mcdonalds now wtf, i wish i had a car to drive there now >_<
Cuelebra! We have a winner!
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By Lakshmi.Darkapple 2012-02-17 23:52:49
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What do i win??? ;D
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-17 23:54:53
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This:
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By Lakshmi.Darkapple 2012-02-17 23:58:09
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must have this
Im gonna facebook everyone i know, whoever takes me to mcdonalds for chicken nuggets will get free fries and a hug!! lol
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-02-17 23:59:38
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ilu<3

Speaking of... Ustav!? Where are you? D:


I tired, sleep nao. nini!
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 00:01:39
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you guys are crazy :<
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By Lakshmi.Darkapple 2012-02-18 00:03:27
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Night <3 lol
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 00:03:45
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
you guys are crazy :<
This is so.

Night Gaspee.^^
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 00:04:20
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nini you guys
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 00:05:28
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Hoho going to bed too, wow so early lol
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 00:23:15
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no lol, just saying night to them, its only 8:30!
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By Shiva.Carrelo 2012-02-18 00:30:13
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Oh, pretty sure Gaspee's the only one who left lol
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 00:46:49
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The homophobic language on page 1 of this thread is really kind of disgusting. >___> inb4 "I don't mean anything by it"
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-18 01:02:57
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Bismarck.Gaspee said: »
Lakshmi.Darkapple said: »
Heyo!!! Nice to meet you too
And yeaaaa, i got a pic of it on my facebook lol, i took it when i got them for my birthday.
McNuggets....................... I have the ultimate craving for mcdonalds now wtf, i wish i had a car to drive there now >_<
Cuelebra! We have a winner!

I was at the gym burning off the fat so i could order my 20 piece for tonight lol

I had a pleasant surprise this evening. they MISCOUNTED. i got 21 pieces!!!
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 01:03:04
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/shrug i didnt find it that bad, but then again who knows
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 01:08:48
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Copypasta from an earlier conversation I had on this topic. >__>

I don't wanna sound like some over-the-top dramatic activist, but "that's so gay"/"no homo" is quite possibly my biggest pet peeve ever. <__< While I recognize and respect that most people mean absolutely no offense by the term, I refuse to stand for it. Language is a critical part of human cognitive development and directly shapes the way we experience the world around us. When you grow up in an environment where the word "gay"--thrown around in place of "shitty," "*** up," etc.--is the most biting insult you can spit at someone, you can't help but internalize that kind of hateful thinking.

This makes it a soul-crushing ordeal for so many children (and even adults!) who can't come to terms with their sexual orientation without feeling like they're insulting themselves just by saying the words "I am gay." That was my experience anyway, and because of it I make an effort whenever possible to explain to people exactly what it is they do every time they misappropriate the word gay like that--deepen the roots of homophobia buried so deeply within the English language and thereby the minds of all of us who speak it. >__>

Obviously lots of LGBT people do not or did not have this problem, and will make the argument that it doesn't offend them. My response to that is that I feel the same way; I no longer find it offensive to my person, but it is still very much wrong because of the effect it will have on everyone else who may at some time struggle with their identity.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2012-02-18 01:09:55
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Moogle's Law get's me again.

Finish Marduk's Tiara? No O. Ingots on the AH.

Long time no see~ ;o
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 01:10:46
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Hai Xeno, long time indeed^^ !
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-18 01:14:29
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
Copypasta from an earlier conversation I had on this topic. >__>

I don't wanna sound like some over-the-top dramatic activist, but "that's so gay"/"no homo" is quite possibly my biggest pet peeve ever. <__< While I recognize and respect that most people mean absolutely no offense by the term, I refuse to stand for it. Language is a critical part of human cognitive development and directly shapes the way we experience the world around us. When you grow up in an environment where the word "gay"--thrown around in place of "shitty," "*** up," etc.--is the most biting insult you can spit at someone, you can't help but internalize that kind of hateful thinking.

This makes it a soul-crushing ordeal for so many children (and even adults!) who can't come to terms with their sexual orientation without feeling like they're insulting themselves just by saying the words "I am gay." That was my experience anyway, and because of it I make an effort whenever possible to explain to people exactly what it is they do every time they misappropriate the word gay like that--deepen the roots of homophobia buried so deeply within the English language and thereby the minds of all of us who speak it. >__>

Obviously lots of LGBT people do not or did not have this problem, and will make the argument that it doesn't offend them. My response to that is that I feel the same way; I no longer find it offensive to my person, but it is still very much wrong because of the effect it will have on everyone else who may at some time struggle with their identity.

I can guarantee u AT LEAST half the people on that page weren't over the age of 18. While that doesn't justify the homophobic language, it does explain a lot. Remember FFXI has people from 7-47 who play, so there's a huge differential in mindsets across ffxiah and ingame.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 01:15:24
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hmm i suppose so carrelo, tbh i never really thought of that, i guess im just so used to hearing it.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 01:17:14
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I don't care how old they are, anyone contributing to the problem should be told what it is they're doing when they talk like that. Nothing will ever change otherwise.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 01:20:01
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tbh i dont think telling them will change much either. im pretty sure their capacity for intelligence isn't high enough to comprehend homophobiafiedness!

(had to make up that word!, noun form of to make something homophobic :<)
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-18 01:20:40
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
I don't care how old they are, anyone contributing to the problem should be told what it is they're doing when they talk like that. Nothing will ever change otherwise.

I know this will sound very narrow-minded. But i learned a long time ago, u cant change everyone's views no matter how much education/information you provide them. And to some degree its futile, and so i just said screw it I'm just going to remove people like this from the equation all together.

For that reason i made a choice several years ago, which was to relocate to West Hollywood when i had enough money. Best decision of my life. Why? Because i knew it had a very large gay population. Openly gay city council and mayor.(they rotate). A police department who was gay-friendly. And more importantly, Ur looked down upon in West Hollywood if u even dare utter a homophobic comment. Ur viewed as ignorant, stupid, "trailer-trash" etc. I love it.

Yes its not diverse in the sense that there's not a lot of straight people or families. But at least i can go out to the grocery store and exchange numbers with a guy and not get nasty looks.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 01:20:52
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To clarify, I really do understand that most people just don't think about it that much. I don't think it makes them bad people or anything; it's just inconsiderate. Some people will be forever blind to the harms they cause others in this case, just as I and every person living in this world are blind to some harm we may cause elsewhere.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 01:23:28
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needs moar hot man pics :< this thread is making me down now ;;
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By Ragnarok.Haorhu 2012-02-18 01:24:44
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yo tarutaru xeno how are why did change servers snugles
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2012-02-18 01:26:23
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lol sorry.^^;;

I do enjoy this topic though because there really is no argument in defense of homophobic speech. The only time being when it's used ironically. I luvs me some ironic jokes lol
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2012-02-18 01:28:17
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
To clarify, I really do understand that most people just don't think about it that much. I don't think it makes them bad people or anything; it's just inconsiderate. Some people will be forever blind to the harms they cause others in this case, just as I and every person living in this world are blind to some harm we may cause elsewhere.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss in the sense, its best not to think about it. U cant change everyone, and for many its a waste of breath. Let them be ignorant. Let them be "Jurassic." Their ignorance really shines when they enter the adult world, and they notice a large portion of society views them to be stupid and points it out.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-18 01:29:01
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i dont even get why people honestly care enough what two guys or girls for that matter even do. i mean, i wont lie, i really dont give 2 flying *** what mr. random person i dont know is doing. im too busy worrying about my own life.

inb4 youre so selfish!
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