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FFXI LGBT Community, who are you?
Carbuncle.Asymptotic
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2659
By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-11-15 01:35:56
I find hickeys to be hilarious.
Leviathan.Hohenheim
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-11-15 02:02:54
aw, well im jelly :< at least you've gay friends.
Alexander.Carrelo
Server: Alexander
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3706
By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-11-15 02:18:03
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »I find hickeys to be hilarious. A better adjective than slutty, I suppose. XD
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »aw, well im jelly :< at least you've gay friends. Everyone here has gay friends. :D I will forever appreciate the posters in this thread as among the most amazing friends I have. For example, I remember way back when I was struggling with coming out and met such an outpouring of support in here - it became one of the pillars that held up my sanity through all the identity questioning and self-discovery that followed. No offense to all my straight friends, but I love the shiiiit out of my gay ones. XD
Anyway, night night everyone.^^
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6470
By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-11-15 02:22:09
Quick, come play Skyrim with me!
Cerberus.Irohuro
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6583
By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-11-15 11:37:29
Quick, come play Skyrim with me!
you can come play with this stud ;)
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-15 11:53:50
Quick, come play Skyrim with me!
you can come play with this stud ;)
I'd share a pic of my character but its a woman XD
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »I find hickeys to be hilarious. Had a friend in high school who randomly showed up one day wearing a scarf and wouldn't take if off... We managed to pull it off after a bit of effort to reveal his neck, with only 2 or 3 small patches of skin hickey free.
Cerberus.Sevvy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-15 12:02:19
My god, I dont post for like 10 days and the thread has blown like 100 pages!!
How is everyone?!
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-15 12:17:03
I'm doing ok, how are you? and everyone one else
Cerberus.Sevvy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-15 12:22:24
Working as usual, but glad to have some entertainment here on the internets!
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-15 13:30:48
my original guy is hot too... looks a little bit spaced out though, lol. Pulling this back from a bit but is he more spaced out than this? XD
(spoilered for animated blood in case that bothers people)
Carbuncle.Asymptotic
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-11-15 13:43:14
Had a friend in high school who randomly showed up one day wearing a scarf and wouldn't take if off... We managed to pull it off after a bit of effort to reveal his neck, with only 2 or 3 small patches of skin hickey free.
And people wonder why I wear scarves in summertime.
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Cerberus.Sevvy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-15 13:46:49
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: » Had a friend in high school who randomly showed up one day wearing a scarf and wouldn't take if off... We managed to pull it off after a bit of effort to reveal his neck, with only 2 or 3 small patches of skin hickey free. And people wonder why I wear scarves in summertime.
A note about scarves, I just bought a bitchin one from Burberry for my trip to Chicago in February. Im in So Cal, so scarfs dont exist haha.
Siren.Gunshy
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 190
By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-15 14:03:00
Hickeys are weird they are pretty unsightly but at the same time I can't help but feel a little smug when I have any.
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-15 14:11:00
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: » Had a friend in high school who randomly showed up one day wearing a scarf and wouldn't take if off... We managed to pull it off after a bit of effort to reveal his neck, with only 2 or 3 small patches of skin hickey free. And people wonder why I wear scarves in summertime.
A note about scarves, I just bought a bitchin one from Burberry for my trip to Chicago in February. Im in So Cal, so scarfs dont exist haha. I have this fear of things being around my neck so I don't get to make use of awesome scarves XD
Hickeys are weird they are pretty unsightly but at the same time I can't help but feel a little smug when I have any. There is no one to give me a hickey so I dont get to experience this feeling.
Siren.Gunshy
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 190
By Siren.Gunshy 2011-11-15 14:13:39
Use a vacuum cleaner! ..wait that sounds wrong.
Cerberus.Sevvy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-15 14:14:48
Use a vacuum cleaner! ..wait that sounds wrong.
Nah! Sounds about right!
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-15 15:26:19
Use a vacuum cleaner! ..wait that sounds wrong.
Nah! Sounds about right! I'm too lazy to come up with a story to tell people about where they would have come from XD
Leviathan.Hohenheim
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-11-15 23:30:11
le sigh, my grandma said some stuff to me today that kind of upset me. she keeps thinking being gay is a choice. she still loves and cares for me blah blah but she keeps saying that it's just a phase and she's seen many like it (which is *** imo). i'm apparently just confused and she believes that i'll make the right choice (and be straight) eventually because she doesn't want me to have to deal with the hardships of this lifestyle. i love her and all but, why doesn't anyone understand? i really didn't ask me to this way and i don't think i could change. i mean, i look at guys and it's like whoa, i'm totally gay. i just wish people would understand.
Quetzalcoatl.Jojen
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 26
By Quetzalcoatl.Jojen 2011-11-16 00:00:08
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »le sigh, my grandma said some stuff to me today that kind of upset me. she keeps thinking being gay is a choice. she still loves and cares for me blah blah but she keeps saying that it's just a phase and she's seen many like it (which is *** imo). i'm apparently just confused and she believes that i'll make the right choice (and be straight) eventually because she doesn't want me to have to deal with the hardships of this lifestyle. i love her and all but, why doesn't anyone understand? i really didn't ask me to this way and i don't think i could change. i mean, i look at guys and it's like whoa, i'm totally gay. i just wish people would understand.
I think it will just take some time for your grandma to let it sink in. She is from an older generation where being gay was waaaaay less acceptable than today, and probably thinks that you have to deal with the same hardships that a gay person would have to deal with when she was growing up. I'm just happy that my family still says they love me, even if they do throw in the "have you found a good girlfriend yet" or "when are you going to get married" comments in every now and then. Bottom line is you have to be happy with your own life, not the life someone else wants you to have.
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-16 02:18:59
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »le sigh, my grandma said some stuff to me today that kind of upset me. she keeps thinking being gay is a choice. she still loves and cares for me blah blah but she keeps saying that it's just a phase and she's seen many like it (which is *** imo). i'm apparently just confused and she believes that i'll make the right choice (and be straight) eventually because she doesn't want me to have to deal with the hardships of this lifestyle. i love her and all but, why doesn't anyone understand? i really didn't ask me to this way and i don't think i could change. i mean, i look at guys and it's like whoa, i'm totally gay. i just wish people would understand. As we get older it becomes harder and harder for us to learn and accept new things. In your grandmother's case she would have grown up being taught that it was a choice so that beleaf is pritty deep in there. It's just kinda the way nature made us, the important thing is that she still loves you (unless she was lieing but in my expirence old people don't dance around that kind of thing) and best to just put everything else out of mind and care.
/consoling-imaginary-internet-hug {You can have this.} : )
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Cerberus.Sevvy
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-16 09:18:57
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »le sigh, my grandma said some stuff to me today that kind of upset me. she keeps thinking being gay is a choice. she still loves and cares for me blah blah but she keeps saying that it's just a phase and she's seen many like it (which is *** imo). i'm apparently just confused and she believes that i'll make the right choice (and be straight) eventually because she doesn't want me to have to deal with the hardships of this lifestyle. i love her and all but, why doesn't anyone understand? i really didn't ask me to this way and i don't think i could change. i mean, i look at guys and it's like whoa, i'm totally gay. i just wish people would understand.
Its your grandma so its a bit different, but when I get into this conversation with anyone else I always bring this up to them:
"One morning I chose to be gay. I chose to possibly be ostracized by my peers. I chose to possibly be disowned by my family. I chose to give up some of my basic rights living in this country. I chose to live a life where I don't know if people truly judge me for who I really am. Is that something Is that a choice you would make?"
It might sound simple but it really makes people think. Granted I came out when I was 13 (which was 14 years ago now) and times are different now, but people who feel its a choice just need to open their eyes a little more. Sadly you have people brainwashing others making them believe so. Keep your head up brotha!
Asura.Ina
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-16 09:36:10
"One morning I chose to be gay. I chose to possibly be ostracized by my peers. I chose to possibly be disowned by my family. I chose to give up some of my basic rights living in this country. I chose to live a life where I don't know if people truly judge me for who I really am. Is that something Is that a choice you would make?" brb, memorizing this.
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Bismarck.Gaspee
Server: Bismarck
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2011-11-16 10:07:38
"One morning I chose to be gay. I chose to possibly be ostracized by my peers. I chose to possibly be disowned by my family. I chose to give up some of my basic rights living in this country. I chose to live a life where I don't know if people truly judge me for who I really am. Is that something Is that a choice you would make?" brb, memorizing this.
Same.
Leviathan.Hohenheim
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-11-16 14:32:24
my god, have you guys read some of these historic lgbt court cases? been reading them for school and ***, the people who are against lgbt have some of the stupidest supports/dissents in the case. i mean, seriously, stupid. they come up with the most fallible logic i've ever seen. i do not understand :<
Cerberus.Sevvy
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Posts: 769
By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-11-16 14:38:11
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »my god, have you guys read some of these historic lgbt court cases? been reading them for school and ***, the people who are against lgbt have some of the stupidest supports/dissents in the case. i mean, seriously, stupid. they come up with the most fallible logic i've ever seen. i do not understand :<
The courts are filled with very conservative judges. If you look at the history of the Supreme Court they are packed by very conservative presidents. Very rarely do Liberal Presidents get a choice who enters the court, so its not surprising. It is very sad indeed. To paraphrase there was a black minister in Georgia that said that we should be disemboweled so we didnt have a chance to spread our filth (meaning STDs, HIV, etc) amoung those who carry on "normal" lives."
A reporter then asked him "Do you think that homosexuals should have to go through what your people did to get the basic freedoms afforded to anyone else?"
The minister responded: "Maybe it will teach them."
It is a sickening display but unforunately it is the world we live in and we can only make our voices heard to get the things we need.
Asura.Ina
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 17912
By Asura.Ina 2011-11-16 14:55:30
Your only gunna hurt yourself trying to apply logic to that.
Cerberus.Lilena
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Posts: 69
By Cerberus.Lilena 2011-11-16 15:07:08
I hate the gays!
Asura.Ina
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By Asura.Ina 2011-11-16 15:11:26
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Nephthyz 2011-11-16 15:11:47
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Bismarck.Onirisu
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 71
By Bismarck.Onirisu 2011-11-16 15:18:51
I am in the process of getting some of those arguments from my mother.
When I first came out to her she was fine with it, and me. 2 weeks later she was fine with me, not it.
Now (4 weeks or so) She says that I am her son, and will always love me, but I am choosing a lifestyle of sin and evil.
The only way I keep from lashing out, or bursting into angry/sad tears is to think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
It seems juvenile, but it helps me to take a step back, and look at things logically. Normally in those situations I would be so emotional that I couldn't look at her arguments in any logical fashion, I would just flail about with words till I calmed down.
This is another example showing that, just because someone reacts one way at first, doesn't mean that their views will stay the same over time. This example happens to be a bad one. But their are good ones too, where parents realize how important their children are and stop fighting. By fighting I mean that parents realize they will be unable to control or change their children's orientation, and start to accept it as a part of their child, not a problem with them.
Just curious to see how many of us actually play FFXI. **Now, let's try to keep this clean, please don't respond if you have nothing nice to say.** :] Don't be shy, speak up! :D
EDIT: You don't have to be gay to post in here, if you want to be apart of our conversations.. feel free to join in! Don't be shy, we don't bite.. well some of us do! :] Anyyyyyways~! This thread has become a home to many from the LGBT community & even some from the straight community who are open minded and enjoy chit-chatting with us, :] so let's keep it drama free, we deserve a place where we can be ourselves without being made fun of/harassed.
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