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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 22:09:40
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
Hey all you RuPaul's Drag Race peeps, time to be jealous. :D

Tonight was the annual Vanderbilt drag show, and I just saw Jujubee, Pandora Boxx, and Raja perform live :D !! I didn't have any cash to tip with or I could've actually touched them. o___o Will post pics sometime when I'm not being lazy. XD

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By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-10-19 22:10:47
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Just as a disclaimer though, it was dark and I was using my phone. So the pics are kinda shitty lol
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 22:13:37
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It's cool, as long as we can tell them apart xD
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-10-19 22:22:55
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Cant wait to see this...
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-10-19 22:29:13
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OK I'm really depressed after uploading these to my computer, they're all super fuzzy. :<

Aaaanyways, here's Jujubee. :D She was awesome tonight lol

Pandora Boxx didn't come out very well at all. .___.

Raja. :D
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-10-19 22:31:24
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I never liked Raja
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-10-19 22:32:57
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Of the 3, my favorite is Jujubee. :D
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-19 22:33:43
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I'll never understand drag queens o_O
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 22:36:20
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Oh geeeeeee my day has been made with those pics *swoon* thanks Carrelo xD

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I'll never understand drag queens o_O

What part of it? :o
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-10-19 22:37:20
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I understand it to a point. I get that it's what they enjoy doing and what not.

I don't however understand (and this isn't just with Drag queens) why they refer to each other as girls.

That's one of the things about some gay men that bug me. You're not a girl, I'm not a girl, don't call me one.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-19 22:42:12
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Leviathan.Zephriel said: »
Oh geeeeeee my day has been made with those pics *swoon* thanks Carrelo xD

Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
I'll never understand drag queens o_O

What part of it? :o

Have an event to promote gay rights / equality / whatever.
90% of the time get a drag queen to host, who dresses provocatively, and puts on a trashy, slutty, promiscuous persona.
SOUNDS GOOD, LET'S DO IT.
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-10-19 22:45:03
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The gay community doesn't really make it easy to help others believe we're just people.

But I'm not going to get into that. :P
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 22:45:13
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Fenrir.Stiklelf said: »
I understand it to a point. I get that it's what they enjoy doing and what not.

I don't however understand (and this isn't just with Drag queens) why they refer to each other as girls.

That's one of the things about some gay men that bug me. You're not a girl, I'm not a girl, don't call me one.

I can't say I understand it fully either, but I guess it's like a persona thing? I've watched the show and they don't refer to each other as female when they're out of costume.

I just know they're hilarious and beautiful and I can appreciate what they do from an artist's standpoint.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-10-19 22:46:26
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I mean, it's just for fun lol

And a lot of the time the trashy/promiscuous stuff is something of a veiled criticism of the things that our society values. Drag queens and kings also get people thinking and talking about LGBT topics. Talking leads to education, which is the first step to advancement.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-19 22:48:48
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
I mean, it's just for fun lol

And a lot of the time the trashy/promiscuous stuff is something of a veiled criticism of the things that our society values. Drag queens and kings also get people thinking and talking about LGBT topics. Talking leads to education, which is the first step to advancement.

In other words, it's okay for me to go around stealing stereos while toting around a bucket of Church's in Blackface, because it'll get people to talk about racial topics?
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 22:56:28
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Damn, I reeaaallllyyy want some Church's now :/

I can see where you're coming from though since it's such a controversial issue that sparks so much hate from the homophobes. Like they judge the LGBT community just based on drag and things like that, but that's just kinda silly and ignorant on their part. I mean, it's like eating an orange and deciding you hate it, so all fruits must be yucky... okay maybe fruits wasn't the best example >__>
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By Cerberus.Lasareth 2011-10-19 22:57:13
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I feel it's a method of expression, just like dance/acting/whatever. I would say though it's about as constructive for lgbt rights as pride parades are (which, compared to other methods of education, is little to none at all and sometimes counterproductive depending...). I don't mind it though. Went to a dance club with a friend in drag, had fun, that's all that matters.

I didn't get the "she" thing either... but whatever I'll roll with it... just don't call me she okay..
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-19 22:58:50
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Oh snap, a wild Zeph appears! Gorgeous, honey. Fellow Korean. :3
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-10-19 23:00:41
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Asura.Xenophire said: »
Oh snap, a wild Zeph appears! Gorgeous, honey. Fellow Korean. :3

i love your avatar sooo much haha
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 23:10:18
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Asura.Xenophire said: »
Oh snap, a wild Zeph appears! Gorgeous, honey. Fellow Korean. :3

Dawww thanks~ ('-'* ) yeah, back from my hiatus... Halfway through the semester and I'm already running out of steam, so I come here to procrastinate.

I'm only half Korean (aw ***she's not even Korean and she's using that flag, SHUNNN)... and so whitewasheddddddd... Trying to fix the latter though, haha.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-19 23:11:06
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Yeah. I was born in Seoul and adopted when I was like, 2 months old. So, was raised in the US.

WE'RE BANANAS! \o\
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 23:12:45
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Aw yeahhhhh, fellow bananas /o/

Or as a friend used to call me... rice cracker... ba dum tish...
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-19 23:18:31
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Wap wap. I'm pretty sure my dad was white, though! I'm a decent height for an Asian. Most Asian I know are pretty short.
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 23:21:02
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How tall are you? I'm actually kinda short for being half...
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By Cerberus.Ustav 2011-10-19 23:22:17
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Alexander.Carrelo said: »
OK I'm really depressed after uploading these to my computer, they're all super fuzzy. :<

Aaaanyways, here's Jujubee. :D She was awesome tonight lol

Pandora Boxx didn't come out very well at all. .___.

Raja. :D
I absolutely LOVE Raja =D
I've seen Morgan and Delta live. Morgan actually host a show every saturday near me(and at times previous contestants from RPDR join in) Morgan performing is great!!! She's a great entertainer.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-19 23:23:03
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5'6". Compared to a Caucasian male, I'm pretty short, though.
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 23:28:01
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Oooh I'm an inch under that. I'm taller than my mom and it pisses her off lol

Damn there's gotta be some way for you to find out :o
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-10-19 23:30:19
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It's always been a dream to find my parents. Thankfully, I know my native name, so, I have that to go off from at least.
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By Alexander.Carrelo 2011-10-19 23:31:49
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Alexander.Carrelo said: »
I mean, it's just for fun lol

And a lot of the time the trashy/promiscuous stuff is something of a veiled criticism of the things that our society values. Drag queens and kings also get people thinking and talking about LGBT topics. Talking leads to education, which is the first step to advancement.

In other words, it's okay for me to go around stealing stereos while toting around a bucket of Church's in Blackface, because it'll get people to talk about racial topics?
No. I mean, do what you want lol but that analogy doesn't fly.

Drag is an illusory representation and interpretation of gender culture. It depicts men and women of all ages and ethnicities. Not all drag artists are part of the LGBTblahblah alphabet soup, and not all drag deserves the criticism that ends up targeting the art as a whole.

Good drag artists are entertaining in the way that a lot of comedians are entertaining. I don't know what kind of unskilled/unimaginative show you saw, but it would have to be pretty uninspired to be on par with your racism analogy.

At any rate, I has a test tomorrow. :3 Night peeps^^ !
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By Leviathan.Zephriel 2011-10-19 23:33:59
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There's this one show I watch (I think on SBS...? Ffff can't remember) where they help people find their parents... I'll keep my eyes out for some kind of phone number next time I see it >.<

NN Carr :o
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