Polearm Sam Halp!
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Polearm sam halp!
Yay real polearm sams! Anything you guyes can see in my setups I should change asap? (Except the obvious kittypants)
Definitely work on getting a tomoe, its an amazing polearm for SAM. Using that new belt Virtuoso Belt for WS instead of warwolf is another thing you could look into, bearing in mind penta thrust only has 20% mod on STR/DEX so generally Att/acc works out better.
Also as said earlier changing STR ring for acc or dex ring (i use Ulthalam's personally). Hope that helps. Yea, Polearm is pretty decent in some endgame areas... Dynamis is one of them. I've always said it this way: If you don't have Hagun or Relic, use a polearm.
A good sam with hagun or relic with the proper setup will still outdamage an equally geared polearm sam on most dynamis mobs. The exception: anything weak to piercing. Things like birds at merit camps, polearm obviously outperforms hagun for a fraction of the cost, though. Yeah thanks, I'll probably end up camping that belt, and just make 2 penta setups, one with _alot_ of acc and one less acc and more power depending on what I'm fighting.
Tomoe will be high up on my list together with kittypants and eventually usu feet. I have a hard time justifying using a weapon with 240 skill versus a gkt with 8/8 merited to 297 skill, even on birds. my current situation doenst not allow me to merit polearm.
Garuda.Shevanel said: I have a hard time justifying using a weapon with 240 skill versus a gkt with 8/8 merited to 297 skill, even on birds. my current situation doenst not allow me to merit polearm. Penta thrust benefits hugely from buffs (zerk/minuet/chaos roll) is why it's so good. Add that on top of 19% overwhelm dmg + 25% extra dmg from birds....it would be stupid not to use polearm. Garuda.Shevanel said: I have a hard time justifying using a weapon with 240 skill versus a gkt with 8/8 merited to 297 skill, even on birds. my current situation doenst not allow me to merit polearm. What your looking at with penta is ~300dmg a hit *5 or mostly *4 (1.2k usual #), since 5 hits landing is only half the time, VS a straight ~1k Gekko. The only thing with penta is, as it's been said, heavily Dependant on buffs. Acc can be an issue on 5-hit builds vs birds if you're gear isn't great but you shouldn't have any acc issues on a 6-hit. Leviathan.Celestinia said: Garuda.Shevanel said: I have a hard time justifying using a weapon with 240 skill versus a gkt with 8/8 merited to 297 skill, even on birds. my current situation doenst not allow me to merit polearm. What your looking at with penta is ~300dmg a hit *5 or mostly *4 (1.2k usual #), since 5 hits landing is only half the time, VS a straight ~1k Gekko. The only thing with penta is, as it's been said, heavily Dependant on buffs. Acc can be an issue on 5-hit builds vs birds if you're gear isn't great but you shouldn't have any acc issues on a 6-hit. Hades.Kvazz said: Leviathan.Celestinia said: Garuda.Shevanel said: I have a hard time justifying using a weapon with 240 skill versus a gkt with 8/8 merited to 297 skill, even on birds. my current situation doenst not allow me to merit polearm. What your looking at with penta is ~300dmg a hit *5 or mostly *4 (1.2k usual #), since 5 hits landing is only half the time, VS a straight ~1k Gekko. The only thing with penta is, as it's been said, heavily Dependant on buffs. Acc can be an issue on 5-hit builds vs birds if you're gear isn't great but you shouldn't have any acc issues on a 6-hit. I guess it depends how you're making the 5-hit =/ I'm using askar body so I do lose Acc but have more haste lol For my SAM i use a Engtsuto but with a +8 weaponskill acc synergy mod I find this better then Tomoe.
Leviathan.Celestinia said: I guess it depends how you're making the 5-hit =/ I'm using askar body so I do lose Acc but have more haste lol Ahh I see:P Dont think I'd sacrifice hauby+1 for anything but usu body unless it was on really non-evasive mobs personally D: Asura.Solotrav said: For my SAM i use a Engtsuto but with a 8 weaponskill acc synergy mod I find this better then Tomoe. I'd pick a tomoe over that myself I think, more acc for the tp-phase, as that's the place i lack the most acc, and the attack is sexy too. just thought i'd add this for the non usu people,
rose strap + rajas ring + brutal earring + ecphoria ring + hachiman kote + merits = perfect 5hit for sam, that will let you keep your haub+1(or nq) for tp and ws. Asura.Solotrav said: For my SAM i use a Engtsuto but with a 8 weaponskill acc synergy mod I find this better then Tomoe. this depends on your penta setup tbh, if your using a meat build then your ok, but if your eating sushi then your alot better off with tomoe, or leviathan's couse. i have 2 pole builds myself, sushi build and meat build edit- i just thought of this a bit more lol, i dont think thats anywhere close to being better than tomoe >.>; tomoe = +1 basedmg +3acc +5attk during tp compared to your augmented engetsuto and its only -5wsacc loss during ws compared to tomoe but you gain 1base dmg and 5attk during ws >.>; my problem isnt really missing penta hits than it is my tp hitrate (83~% w/ meat build on birds) so ima stick with tomoe lol. Kvazz, I want you to ignore everything that Yov said earlier. Their numbers were wrong about your accuracy. Of course, that's only if you intend on meriting polearm skill, which if you're serious about SAM, you will.
70+15DEX 256 Combat skill +46 accuracy on your TP set Crab Sushi vs. a lv82 Greater Colibri with Hasso on, will get you over the cap on accuracy by about 10 or maybe even more. Without merits you'll suffer, and will need to use something like Squid/Bream sushi to cap your accuracy. |
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