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Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-12-03 21:46:42
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: glad to see your response to our so-called "kindergarten ***"
Yes, because through out this thread you have been the pinnacle of respect and courteousness.
Me? NOWAI!!!
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 21:55:08
I made a rant about Jedi, i feel like i should post it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-03 22:24:36
Gilgamesh.Andras said: I might make one "Regulate Jedis, not lightsabers" Fixed
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 22:26:22
Ramuh.Dasva said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: I might make one "Regulate Jedis, not lightsabers" Fixed
sorry
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 22:26:37
Should i post my rant?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-03 22:27:26
Gilgamesh.Andras said: Should i post my rant? Why not? The OP has made several rants into threads the last few days
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 22:27:52
Lol, Ok, its kind of silly thou <.<
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-03 22:54:53
Ramuh.Ardath said: Religion is a business, period. oh, and there is no God. My two cents....
100% Correct.
100% Scam.
Psychics make money the exact same way.
Telling *** stories :)
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 22:56:04
stop showing up like that and ruining the fun
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-03 22:58:05
Naw physics generally actually learn what makes you as an individual tick to scam you.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 22:59:13
I wanna just post 500 different bible verses from a bible website in this thread to see what happens
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-03 23:01:21
Gilgamesh.Andras said: I wanna just post 500 different bible verses from a bible website in this thread to see what happens
My eyes will bleed.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 23:02:13
I'm also gonna post links to sites with them being read to you.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 23:03:15
And for the other *** arguing and going back and fourth i'll post atheist ***, cuz i wanna be equal.
But still, I like God, you don't, who the *** cares, bah.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-03 23:06:16
Gilgamesh.Andras said: And for the other *** arguing and going back and fourth i'll post atheist ***, cuz i wanna be equal. But still, I like God, you don't, who the *** cares, bah.
I didn't say I didn't like god :P
I love god. I wish he did exist XD
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2009-12-03 23:08:17
Ok let me fix my statement...
I believe in God,
You don't believe in God,
Who the *** gives a flying *** what we believe in?
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-03 23:11:11
Gilgamesh.Andras said: Ok let me fix my statement... I believe in God, You don't believe in God, Who the *** gives a flying *** what we believe in?
Well...
Everyone on this thread obviously cared enough to post a comment.
I started the thread, I was sharing views that I agree with.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-03 23:16:05
I shared a view.
It happened to be about religion.
Religion causes hate and violence~>
Like I've said many times~>
Just read the comments from those who share different views then I do~>
A lot of hateful things :)
So is religion not the cause?
It is.
I don't think a thread that is about me not believing in Santa Clause would have caused such an uproar
=)
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-03 23:17:30
Seraph.Bulleta said: Gilgamesh.Andras said: I wanna just post 500 different bible verses from a bible website in this thread to see what happens My eyes will bleed. POIDH
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2009-12-03 23:24:02
Seraph.Bulleta said: I shared a view. It happened to be about religion. Religion causes hate and violence~> Like I've said many times~> Just read the comments from those who share different views then I do~> A lot of hateful things :) So is religion not the cause? It is. I don't think a thread that is about me not believing in Santa Clause would have caused such an uproar =) But if you'd written a thread about how Santa Clause causes death and destruction you'd probably get a bit of an uproar, though it'd mostly consist of "Lol, what an idiot"
Not believing is one thing, you wrote a thread with the intent to inflame readers, that is all.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-12-03 23:33:22
Seraph.Bulleta said: I shared a view.
It happened to be about religion.
Religion causes hate and violence~>
Like I've said many times~>
Just read the comments from those who share different views then I do~>
A lot of hateful things :)
So is religion not the cause?
It is.
I don't think a thread that is about me not believing in Santa Clause would have caused such an uproar
=)
Please shut up now want me to place my views on you? what me to tell you a little story? I can baby, such a cute girl but a pathetic waste on society, such a shame.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-12-03 23:37:43
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said: Bahamut.Stanflame said: what are you then, the person above both sides? you are the most ignorant one and the one troling the convo now stfu.
If by "sides" you mean arguing meaningless crap, then yes.
The fact that the most debated aspects of this discussion are the most trivial and insignificant, does not speak to me being the ignorant one.
So far we have had
1. Religion kills people
2. God is stupid
3. The Earth is older than (4000) years. (Random # some moron pulled out of their ***, since even idiot creationists think its 6000)
4. Noah's Ark is impossible
5. Prove "God" using "Human" methods
These are the most intellectually challenging things you guys can come up with over 20 pages?
Again, this is all kindergarten *** that doesn't really deserve actual responses. Considering any thought out response would only elicit 2 responses.
1. "God is fake!" Followed by "All you religion people are just mad b/c I showed you that all your beliefs are false with my above statement" And this will just be repeated over and over until others give up
2. "It's all true!" Followed by "You can't prove it's not real and/or lol your going to hell". Repeated over and over etc.
No the OP is the one with the trolling, you are the one pretending you are better than people here. OP and you are the ignorant one.
I believe in god, thats it. I do not care if you do not believe the guy exists or not. Nothing can go poof out of thin air, thats it. stop trying to act like you never pondered about the unknown.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-03 23:50:10
Bahamut.Stanflame said: Nothing can go poof out of thin air, thats it. Neither can god then
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By Kujata.Segaia 2009-12-04 00:22:57
I am rly interested now ...
Is it rly the case that a lot of ppl are religious? If we exclude poor ppl (without downgrading them) and set a basic education as a requirement and focus on theese ppl how many would that be? I am asking because religion is surely due to the nation/country aswell and in germany the church is pretty much dieing out.
You guys got the feeling that most of your friends are believing in god? It just interests me, not meant offense in any way. I wonder if rly like 80% of the american, french or spanish ppl believes in the bible etc. .
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By Seraph.Cptapollo 2009-12-04 00:39:20
to quote a long time friend of mine... "Absence of evidence is NOT evidence of Absence"
thats not to say that there is no proof that God exists, the proof is all around us those of you that do not see it, that is a shame.
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By Remora.Narrubia 2009-12-04 00:39:54
Well, United States demographics were fairly easy to dig up: about 76% of Americans are Christian. Not sure about the other nations you mentioned, but I'm sure that information can be found with little difficult.
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2009-12-04 02:01:02
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197#
Christianity is copied off of egyptian Sun-God religions.
EDIT: Made the link clicky.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-12-04 03:05:50
Ramuh.Dasva said: Bahamut.Stanflame said: Nothing can go poof out of thin air, thats it. Neither can god then
Well it depends, there has to be a way everything came into being. Lets say god for instance was around or was a factor of the big bang, or was bought into being from it. Never know, and if thats the case, he can have not gone poof out of thin air.
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By Ramuh.Ardath 2009-12-04 03:41:01
Look, all people from the dawn of time believed in one thing or another, most created before any real education could be put into play. With evolution of education, science has discredited most of the ***that was once believed to be true. Is the world flat? Does the sun rotate around the earth? Can a dead man rise from the grave, the answers are obvious, no.
Christians can end any religious arguement with one word, "Faith", which is a total *** cop-out.
The OP had one solid point that all should think about, if we were not brain washed at such an early age, do you think that the majority of people would have chosen thier faith? I seriously doubt it. Especialy in the curent day and age, it would come down to God or your new Ipod.
Point blank, it doesn't even matter, when you are gone, you are gone, we are all electrons, neutrons, and protons.
P.S.
If we are created in God's image, just look at Cerubus.Vigor, and boom, their is your God, pray away!
A lot of the people in this world believe we need to regulate drugs and guns to make this a safer place. I have a different insight. I think if you're going to regulate one thing that has the most potential to cause death and destruction, it should be religion. Religion is dangerous, and I don't say this out of bitterness. I was raised catholic. I was never molested, but.. Meh i'm a little insulted lol. I was attractive, so hey it was their loss.
What I have against religion is... They start you when you are so defensless. I was 3 years old when they started pumping this BS into my head. I believed in Santa Clause and the Fairy Godmother, ofcourse I believed in virgin birth, a guy that lived in a whale, and a woman came from a rib. But then, something very important happened to me that made me doubt all of it. I graduated the 6th grade :)
What is so hard about saying "I don't know" !?
Ofcourse there are questions that plaque all of us...
How did we get here?
What happens when we die?
Is there a heaven?
Am I on the list?
Who let the dogs out?
So why would you believe some other human being (Who's brain "I promise you is no bigger or better than your own") when he tells you he knows what happens when you die?
"Don't masturbate now, or you won't get to hang out with Jesus in heaven! How do I know!? I've got a pointy hat! I have a hat, and a robe, I have smoke and a wand!"... It's so gay.
Every Sunday is like a pageant with the costumes, the wands, the goblets, the smoke, and the men kneeling down in front of other men with their mouths open.. Nothing gay about that!
Religion, easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there is an invisible man living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of 10 things He does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10 things, he has a special place full of fire, and smoke, and burning, and torture, and anguish, where he will send you to live to burn, and suffer, and choke, and scream, and cry forever and ever untill the end of time. BuT He LoVeS YoU <3 <3 <3 <3
He loves you and he always needs MONEY! He's all powerful, all perfect, all knowing, and all wise, but somehow he just can't handle money o.O!! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more $$$$$ Talk about a good bullshit story.. Holyshit!
This is Sincere: When it came to believing in god, I really tried. I wanted to believe that there was a god who created us in his own image, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I tried, but the longer you live, the more you look around, and the more you realize that something is ????d up:
(War Disease Death Destruction Hunger Filth Poverty Torture Crime)
This is not good work. If this is the best god can do, I am not impressed. A results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. These are the results you would expect from an office temp with a bad attitude.
Between you and me... In any feasibly ran universe, this guy would have been out on his all powerful ass a long time ago. I say guy, because if there really is a god he has to be a man. No woman could or would ever ???? things up like this ^.^
If there is a god, I think that most reasonable people would agree that he is atleast incompetent, and maybe.. Just maybe.. He doesn't give a shit. Which I admire in a person, and it would explain a lot of these bad results. So instead of being just another mindless-religious robot, mindlessly.. Aimlessly.. Blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompitent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to find something else to worship. Something I could actually count on...
I immidiatly thought of the sun. Overnight, just like that. I became a sun worshipper, but not overnight because you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning....
Several reasons...
First of all, I can see the sun. (Unlike a few other gods I know). I'm big on that, if I can see something it kind of helps the credibility. So everyday I can see the sun as it gives me everything I need: Light, Heat, Food, Flowers in the Park, Reflections in the Lake, the occasional skin cancer but hey.. Atleast there are no crucifixions and setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.
Sun worshipping is simple. There are no mysteries, no miracles, no pageantry, noone asks for money, no songs to learn, and we don't have a building we gather together in once a week to compare clothing.
Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? Its god's will~? It will be done. Fine, but if it's god's will, he is going to do what he wants to anyway... Why the hell pray for it in the first place? Couldn't you just skip the paying, and just go straight to god's will?
I do believe prayers are answered though.. Maybe at a 50% rate! Half the time I get what I want. Half of the time I don't. Same as the four leaf clover, the horse shoe, the wishing well, the rabbit's foot, the mojo man, same as the voodoo lady that tells you fortune by squeezing a goat's testicle. It's all the same.. 50/50... So just pick your superstition, make a wish, and sit back and enjoy yourself.
And for those of you who look to the bible for moral lessons, and literary qualities... I'll suggest a few other stories for you... You might want to look at:
~The Three Little Pigs (It has a nice happy ending)
~Little Red Riding Hood (Although it has that X-rated part where the wolf actually eats the grandmother)
~Humpty Dumpty (All the king's horses, and all the king's men couldn't put humpty dumpty back together again. That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God.)
If there is a God, may he strike me dead!....
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o.O Nothing happened... lol
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