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Why does the internet worship valve/steam/gabe?
By Althor 2026-05-13 11:16:23
it's outrageous honestly that this wrinkly tech nerd has the power he does.
most people prefer the misery of something they know rather than the uncertainty of something they don't, pretty basic human condition.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-15 08:35:54
https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/valve-gives-player-any-game-they-want-for-free-after-their-steam-controller-is-delayed-3365098/
Another thing to add to the list of why the internet "worships valve/steam/Gabe".
The standard of customer service is so *** up that doing the right thing is worthy of heaps of praise. Instead of being mad about "why the internet worships Gabe", perhaps you should be asking "why the internet has succumbed to accepting slop as the norm".
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By Althor 2026-05-15 08:46:05
Saw something the other day that steam machines are already in USA warehouses. Dunno if they need to add anything component wise or not.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-15 08:49:31
They need to figure out how deeply buried in ***they are for MSRP. Thats what the delay is.
It's a $400 5 year old pc that's gonna cost $1200. They're so ***.
By RadialArcana 2026-05-15 09:01:44
Billionaires fund agenda movies and video games, this is why the most woke entertainment can make barely any money and be a crash out, and still be a success and fund sequels etc. Cause it's fully funded by people who have more money than sense anyway, and to whom 100m budget is like buying a can of coke.
I used to always be against stopping people making as much money as they want, but seeing these fking tards do with it we need the China system where billionaires who go against the state get disappeared.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-05-15 10:22:40
Yep. Elon before Bill but ALL OF THEM. Bill gave his wife an STD and then fed her drugs to treat it without her knowing it, and is a stinky globalist POS
Why the hard-on for Elon to be murdered first? I don't want to murder the billionaires, I want to tax them. Leave them just enough money for them to keep making money and paying taxes.
Its the goose and golden eggs thing.
As to Elon? You butcher the fattest pig first.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-15 10:29:09
You can't tax unrealized gains.
A trillion dollars in TSLA stock has absolutely zero taxable value.
They're not walking around with a billy in their pockets.
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By RadialArcana 2026-05-15 10:29:31
To be accurate, many of these people are not actually billionaires.
Elon for instance isn't a billionaire, and so you can't really tax it out of them.
Liquid wealth isn't the same as company share holdings that you are unable to sell.
It's like if your relative gives you a mansion worth 50 million dollars, but you are not allowed to sell it. On paper you're worth 50 million dollars, but you could still starve to death if that's all you had.
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By Dodik 2026-05-15 11:21:29
Stock is not taxable, dividends are. As is income from selling stock.
Just having stock means FA. Market value changes.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-15 11:24:51
They don't sell stock, the take loans against stock value
Then they buy a $2 painting for 10 million and donate it erasing all tax liability.
Feature not a bug.
By Shichishito 2026-05-15 11:34:26
The article mentions a social media post that went viral and a "small amount" of controllers that accidentally went to the UK. Depending how many that "small amount" were It could be peanuts to steam compared to the positive reception they get in return.
The viral social media post makes it a bit sus cause usually people post about negative customer service experiences and don't bother to mention good ones.
If it's not just a publicity stunt then it's definitely a nice pro consumer move and it's great if they got better on that front.
Unfortunately I'm afraid there is a pretty high chance that a lot of scalpers will benefit from this generosity.
It's a $400 5 year old pc that's gonna cost $1200. They're so ***. Are the specs that bad??
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-05-15 11:52:21
The Radeon RX 7600 is a performance-segment graphics card by AMD, launched on May 24th, 2023. $270
The AMD Ryzen 5 7600 is a desktop processor with 6 cores, launched in January 2023. $220
Or just google a 780m mini pc (and adjust pre rampocalypse pricing) ~$350 + $200 for rampocalypse
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-05-15 12:15:52
Liquid wealth isn't the same as company share holdings that you are unable to sell. Two words, net worth. A wealth tax would tax their total net worth.
Stock is not taxable, dividends are. As is income from selling stock. Property is taxable. My state has no income tax, we have sales and property taxes. The property we tax is only stuff like real estate and cars.
They don't sell stock, the take loans against stock value Yep. And set it up so the interest is tax deductible.
Quote: Then they buy a $2 painting for 10 million and donate it erasing all tax liability. Not quite.
They inherit a painting their grandparents bought for $2 which is now appraised at $10 million. There are no capital gains taxes on inheritances.
They donate the painting to a non profit family foundation and get a tax deduction. The foundation places it in their mansion which is listed for tax purposes as a publicly accessible museum. That's another tax deduction. It is open to the public one day a year, the public is never informed about this.
Sometimes I wish KN still posted here, he knows way more about this tax stuff than I.
By RadialArcana 2026-05-15 12:40:21
In the UK, farmers have land and machinery that is worth tens of millions of dollars and the government is trying to tax and suck the life out of them because of it. Every year the value of their land is increasing wildly.
They are not very wealthy in real terms, their net worth (long inherited land and assets) isn't the same as money in the bank or the money they make operating the farm.
The reason they are doing this, is mass immigration is creating a intense value bloating of land and property because of supply and demand (more people need more housing). The more people you import, the more valuable land becomes. This is why companies like Blackrock are mass buying property and land in as mass quantities as the government allow them to, it's a 100% guaranteed massive return on the investment as long as you can demand governments keep importing people (which they do just that).
Farmers should not be punished and taxed for things outside of their control and when they are not able to even pay what is being asked of them, net worth isn't relevant to how much taxes they pay.
One of the reasons the USA refuses to deal with billionaires is they can leave and go somewhere else, and become an asset for another nation (unless the US becomes a dictatorship and stops this, you cannot deal with them).
The EU for example is a complete ***show of utter incompetence because anyone that could create wealth or industry flees to the USA, which guarantees they will always be crap.
Everyone in power knows why things are the way they are, they lie to their voters and tell you those sweet little lies you love to get elected but when they get into power they do nothing any different because they can't.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-05-15 18:24:18
Taxing farmers is what happens when stupid people get into power, stupid people being those who believe farmers are useless because grocery stores exist.
By Shichishito 2026-06-02 18:59:39
Steam afaik was the first digital game distributor. I think it's them who came up with the concept of tieing a game key to a account which, once redeemed, can't be resold anymore. If Gabe didn't invent that concept himself he at least made it common practice for video games.
The best part is the account isn't transferable either.
Did you know you can store up to 2000$ in your steam wallet and basically limitless dollars worth of in game items in your inventory?
If you have a accident all your games, steam funds and in game 'investments' are gone with you.
I'd expect more from someone who's considered the messiah of PC gaming.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2026-06-02 19:22:34
Because I've seen most every other institution try to continually grow and entirely lose sight of their original goals. Steam is still everything Steam was originally, but more of it. It hasn't attempted to venture into every other industry.
I look at it similar to WoW. For decades every MMO that has launched since WoW people have hyped up as a "WoW killer", and they always fail. Because WoW got so big the only thing that can kill WoW is WoW. Well, that's Steam. Nothing is going to come and replace Steam.
That said, as soon as Gabe passes I'd be trying to move away from Steam because my general pattern recognition is that original CEO's usually keep things steady but once you have corporate suits running the show after them the corporation goes to ***. But until that happens, I consider Steam rather safe.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-06-02 20:34:58
Did you know you can store up to 2000$ in your steam wallet and basically limitless dollars worth of in game items in your inventory? This sounds like an IQ test because why would you put a non-refundable two thousand dollars into your steam wallet?????
If you have a accident all your games, steam funds and in game 'investments' are gone with you. What happens to my pc and console and games if my house burns down or gets robbed?
By Shichishito 2026-06-02 20:55:30
This sounds like an IQ test because why would you put a non-refundable two thousand dollars into your steam wallet????? I don't know, people get gift cards or they want to buy/sell in game items on the steam market. I think if you refund a purchase it also ends up in your steam wallet.
Shichishito said: »
If you have a accident all your games, steam funds and in game 'investments' are gone with you.
Nynja said: »
What happens to my pc and console and games if my house burns down or gets robbed? I'm not sure why you'd compare the above with acts of nature or criminal intent.
Afaik you can legally transfer your PC and console, even games if they are physical copies.
You can't transfer a steam account.
By DaneBlood 2026-06-02 21:50:45
Did you know you can store up to 2000$ in your steam wallet and basically limitless dollars worth of in game items in your inventory? This sounds like an IQ test because why would you put a non-refundable two thousand dollars into your steam wallet?????
You are talking to the person that made a huge whine post about how there was no warning for wave2 in shared dynamis and whined about needing a grace period, be cause he didnt know where mobs spawn and didnt pay attention in the game (His words not mine)
Just to be informed there is an HP bar as a warning, AND a grace period already in effect.
An IQ test might be asking a lot from them.
This person just loves to whine, and feel victimized.
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just to put in some context to this
THey have made posts whining about:
- people cap'ing sparks during XP gain hours must be cheating because they could not do it themselves.
- people making Afterglow weapons must be cheating because it to big an effort for them.
- people /checking them on their gear
- people must be MP'king them in dynamis because they doen't know where mobs spawn and they don;t pay attention to the game all the time (again their words)
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-06-02 22:26:01
Hmm necro but Steam is awesome and valve even more so. Maybe some of you don't remember back in the bad days pre-Steam, digital distribution platforms sucked and companies would play games with DRM around those platforms. Then Valve decided to open up Steam to third parties, including their competitors, as a distribution platform. They didn't turn into evil *** trying to Microsoft all the competition and just focused on improving / standardizing the platform to the point it's better then everyone else.
Furthermore they decided to screw Microsoft by funneling development money into the most important libraries for playing modern games on Linux, DXVK and Proton. Doitsujin (Philip Rebohle), the developer of both (well Proton is a whole team), is paid by Valve for working on them.
https://github.com/doitsujin
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2018/09/an-interview-with-the-developer-of-dxvk-part-of-what-makes-valves-steam-play-tick/
Quote: DXVK: “It wasn't all that spectacular - they contacted me when News made the round that DXVK could run Nier [NieR:Automata] back in late January, and when offered to work full-time on the project after a friendly chat, I couldn't really refuse.
There are a lot of things that probably would not have happened if Valve hadn't been backing the project - such as driver developers fixing their Vulkan drivers for DXVK or reporting bugs, or Vulkan getting a transform feedback extension.”
Everything else can be ignored and thrown out, but the funding of Doitsujin for DXVK / Proton immediately puts Valve heads and shoulders over everyone else. Can anyone here serious imagine Epic, EA, or even lol Microsoft, working on this kind of open source translation layer?
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By Asura.Iamaman 2026-06-03 06:39:44
What was the predominant digital distribution prior to Steam? I remember Direct2Drive, but I'm not sure I recall any others prior to that (aside from piracy sites)
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By Bahamut.Turambar 2026-06-03 07:11:29
From what I recall, prior to Steam companies just had their own download services. I may be misremembering, but that was the main innovation of Steam was the unified, almost Amazon-like, storefront system.
Continuation from the discussion over in the random thoughts thread because pantafernando raised concerns that our 4 page long discussion could derail that 23k page long thread filled with random thoughts. It started on this page.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
The games community worships Steam because its a reliable consumer friendly simple product. That's a statement. Now it'd be nice to follow up with some reasons why steam is a worship worthy degree more consumer friendly than their competition.
You ninja introduced gg.deals into this conversation after I made that post. Don't get it twisted. Initially I mentioned gog and humble bundle, both occasionally have better prices than steam. Then you Nynja narrowed it down to new games only and started cherry picking titles.
I followed you on those new arbitrary rules instead of calling you out on your bullshit. I proceeded to demonstrate, with your list of cherry picked titles, that steam doesn't have the price advantage by default. Instead of acknowledging that you're changing the rules again.
Remember, You guys chose to argue in favor of steam and gabe being your one and only lord and saviour. My side of the argument is perfectly in line with choosing a different store if their offer is better. And for the 3rd time:
So are gog, humble bundle and others without charging that premium. The bold part clearly indicates that the list isn't comprehensive, stop selectively reading over things that don't fit your narrative.
Regardless, I've already covered this one too:
They sell you a steam key. I dont know the process how they get their stock but my guess is theyre resellers who bought in bulk at discount. Fact is that they sell them cheaper than steam does.
I'm just repeating stuff I've already said now. I noticed, like a broken record, pretending those quotes debunk arguments while most of them only talk past valid points like the one above.
I hope we can stop with the quote fest from here on out and advance the discussion cause it's going to suck having to cross reference a different thread even more than it already did in the original thread.
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