Lehko Vs. Cornelia Vs. Ephramad

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Lehko vs. Cornelia vs. Ephramad
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 Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2026-03-09 21:00:58
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Fickblix FTW
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-03-09 22:29:23
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Bismarck.Sterk said: »
I don't give a *** what rings my party members chose as long as it isn't Ragelise.
I don't either, as long as you play actively and well.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-03-09 22:41:38
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Atrox78 said: »
Hi. My name us Torcleaver Fudo. Its nice to meet you?

Lol, while they still get the exact same WS Acc +100 on first hit as other WS's, they still miss one out of twenty times. You don't get to pick which one though so it's possible two whiff twice then hit the next thirty eight WS's. Savage has a second hit, that hit doesn't do much damage but at least it's not a zero.
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-03-09 23:20:09
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Bahamut.Navius said: »
despite reality.

You encourage the use of a simulator that isn't the game, and is, therefore, not reality.

Parses and simulators are nice. They can be very accurate, and most importantly, parses can show active play, you can extrapolate player choice from them.

But they are not infallible. They are not reality. They don't show everything and they miss out on actual gameplay all of the time.

The Sim is even worse. It is no substitute for actually playing the game, or how things will unfold there.

So you posted an opinion. Nothing more. In other threads you've asserted things like Caliburnus routinely out does Naegling. You aren't free from bias.

In no way are you just impartially course correcting anything.

You just don't like that you came to a decision and swapped rings, cemented now in your own beliefs. So you chose to post in a way that plays to the audience, since they also enjoy the Sim(not reality).

The fact remains that Ephramad's Ring has its place in TP sets as well as weaponskill sets. Cornelia's Ring only has a place in WS sets.

My argumentation may be flawed, but I am correct. Ephramad's is the superior overall choice. I even lead with saying I've always championed it, and you chose to throw barbs my way in a rather supercilious way, tbh.

In reality though, anyone's ring choice is ultimately unimportant. Better play, and play that understands the next best options will see you through gameplay more than any ring ever will. At the bottom of page three, Dodik opined in favor of Cornelia's, but then he also said, "Gear for what you do."

Some folks only play/prioritize their play as healers or hardline for mage jobs. They choose Medada or Gorebu. Some hardline for BST/pet jobs and choose Fickblix. I play physical DDs, and Ephramad gives them the most(just over half the jobs in the game, depending on your PoV).

Cornelia's is great, but its own exceptional area, an arena that Ephramad's can't touch, is most magical WSes. It is not bad. It's even my favorite color. I don't know who all has chosen it in the groups I play in, but whoever is, isn't running circles around me in the content we do, if we're on jobs with the same purpose.

You can't go wrong with either, truly, but you're right. I will always highlight the ring I believe is superior, just the same as you.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2026-03-09 23:47:34
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One of the hidden benefits of hoxne is making 1 hit ws go from full miss 1/20 to 1/400... assuming capped acc even without the extra 100.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-09 23:57:06
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Asura.Vyre said: »
They don't show everything and they miss out on actual gameplay all of the time.

I would love it if people would actually give examples and explain how it invalidates the results of the sim, or changes the optimal decision to make, instead of just making broad, general statements.

Asura.Vyre said: »
The Sim is even worse. It is no substitute for actually playing the game, or how things will unfold there.

Again...what? Which part of "how things unfold there" changes the math behind which ring is better?

Asura.Vyre said: »
The fact remains that Ephramad's Ring has its place in TP sets as well as weaponskill sets. Cornelia's Ring only has a place in WS sets.

Ephramad is a terrible TP ring. It's BiS for accuracy, but there are a whole hell of a lot of better pieces to swap accuracy on than putting on a TP ring with 0 STP and 0 multi-attack. As discussed earlier, PDL is a TERRIBLE stat to focus on for your TP sets.

Asura.Vyre said: »
In reality though, anyone's ring choice is ultimately unimportant. Better play, and play that understands the next best options will see you through gameplay more than any ring ever will.

I see people make this argument all the time and while I agree with the premise, it's also extremely flawed. Better play > better rings, absolutely. However, it's a false dichotomy. You can play better AND have a better ring, and you shouldn't be comparing yourself to other people (who might suck at the game), you should be comparing yourself with the copy of yourself that has the other ring. It's a silly argument.

Asura.Vyre said: »
but whoever is, isn't running circles around me in the content we do, if we're on jobs with the same purpose.

Don't understand what you're trying to imply here. Do you think anyone, regardless of which ring they promote, will "run circles around" other players if they pick the right ring? It's a marginal improvement either way. As mentioned earlier, because of the difference in execution between players it's not a very good strategy to compare two different human beings when trying to decide if one ring is better than the other. Again I think this argument is extremely flawed.
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