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December 2025 Version Update
Bahamut.Senaki
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 316
By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-12-21 17:18:38
I kinda want SE to reintroduce ‘racial benefits to certain jobs’:
Like, ‘if you’re Taru you by default do 70% more MB II damage’.
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By SimonSes 2025-12-21 17:38:22
Either the prices normalize naturally or ambitious folks pay the few bucks to race change. Win for SE either way, no big deal.
I haven't really seen anyone do a spreadsheet/sim quality breakdown of how the sets effect jobs, though. So, at this point there's probably not even a huge difference in perceived value of the 5 sets and people are probably fine with 1:1 trades with friends.
I was kinda planning to at least make some comments, but it needs to be look at from every job perspective, not from every group of jobs perspective (unless sometimes when it's about idle set). So it would take a lot of time to to only assume, but really compare stuff. Maybe I will start tomorrow.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6782
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-21 18:09:31
Fellas, whats gonna affect the prices of these race shards more:
The correlation between jobs to race used here
or
percentage of the playerbase playing each race?
How many Jewel of Aff. will come from limbus boxes when ~7% of the playerbase is galka?
By Felgarr 2025-12-21 18:37:45
I kinda want SE to reintroduce ‘racial benefits to certain jobs’:
Like, ‘if you’re Taru you by default do 70% more MB II damage’.
Hell *** no.
Fellas, whats gonna affect the prices of these race shards more:
The correlation between jobs to race used here
or
percentage of the playerbase playing each race?
How many Jewel of Aff. will come from limbus boxes when ~7% of the playerbase is galka?
That's hilarious. I also recently found the ugliest hume female:
Seriously though, how fast can you change back to your old race if you decide to switch? I wouldn't (because I'm Elvaan, the best race in the game), but for folks who might be less fortunate...
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By Nariont 2025-12-21 18:45:30
I kinda want SE to reintroduce ‘racial benefits to certain jobs’:
Like, ‘if you’re Taru you by default do 70% more MB II damage’.
id be fine if they just reverted it back to the old racial differences, only HP/MP really mattered anyway and we got enough to cover those without much issue
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 780
By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-12-21 19:01:25
Just race change when you want to farm a new armor set.
*SE Logic*
By SimonSes 2025-12-21 19:15:24
Just race change when you want to farm a new armor set.
*SE Logic* SE logic is they think we are actually social and will trade with each other shards we need. I bet Japanese people will do exactly that.
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 475
By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-12-21 21:43:57
I mean we have this from 2014
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/12/index.html
So assuming the numbers haven't changed too much we're looking at at least 4 tarus for every galka which makes it hard to just trade for what you need.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3907
By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-12-21 22:22:13
It's not like the trade ratio is 10:1...2:1 is really not that bad. You can easily get the shards you want, at least to uncurse a piece or 10 of armor.
No shard (in a logical world) will ever be more than 2x the value of any other shard.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6782
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-21 22:41:58
For the longest time the price of Heroism Aggregates was 10x the cost of Heroism Crystals, theres nothing logical about Vana'Diel
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 159
By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-12-21 23:03:44
My all character galka stocks rising, nice.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6646
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-12-22 06:27:29
What if the race shards needed were based on the AA race instead? So cowardice is TT, for instance. Do we know it is the player's race that matters?
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Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3705
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-12-22 06:48:46
The update notes said your reward is based on your character's race. The race shards do seem to be based on the AA race, but you can only earn shards that match your character's race. Seems like a quick cash grab for race changes, tbh.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-12-22 06:53:39
Booooo
By Tarage 2025-12-22 06:56:20
While doing shards by race makes sense for lore reasons, it doesn't at all make sense for gameplay reasons, and that is stupid.
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By LightningHelix 2025-12-22 06:59:50
While doing shards by race makes sense for lore reasons, it doesn't at all make sense for gameplay reasons, and that is stupid. second this, I thought the player would get a random shard (and then the shards would upgrade the corresponding AA race's gear), I misread the announcement in a far less stupid way lmao
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1538
By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-12-22 08:02:51
"Limbus NM fight! LFM: Galka WHM, No Tarutaru!"
Asura.Hya
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 404
By Asura.Hya 2025-12-23 13:57:06
It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded?
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Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1462
By Sylph.Funkworkz 2025-12-23 14:00:19
I have them all but its just tedious. It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded?
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By Tokimemofan 2025-12-28 14:48:13
It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded? Same with the new NMs
Asura.Hya
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 404
By Asura.Hya 2025-12-28 15:02:53
It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded? Same with the new NMs Anyone can make the NM pages. They just don't want to.
By Ovalidal 2025-12-29 13:57:21
It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded? Same with the new NMs
If someone can point me in the direction of write-ups for the new NMs, I'd be glad to edit them and make pages for the NMs.
Asura.Hya
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 404
By Asura.Hya 2025-12-29 14:17:20
It looks like BG is still missing item images and icons for all the new gear sets except Bravery and Clemency, plus a smattering of the cursed items. I know an incredible amount of new items were just added all at once, will there be another pass to get these remaining outliers uploaded? Same with the new NMs
If someone can point me in the direction of write-ups for the new NMs, I'd be glad to edit them and make pages for the NMs. https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/61/#3772842
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/62/#3772988
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/60/#3772757
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/58/#3772634
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/58/#3772638
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By Ovalidal 2025-12-29 14:52:39
I think Ultima and Omega have already been covered, have they not?
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Omega_Forerunner
Quote: Edit: Oh wait, it looks like Ultima doesn't have a page yet. I'll take care of that here soon, thanks for the links.
I was talking about the tier 1 and 2 NMs. Furthermore, does anyone remember the names of the T2 NMs for both Apollyon and Temenos?
Asura.Hya
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 404
By Asura.Hya 2025-12-29 14:58:27
That info is all in the Limbus thread too, just have to dig back for it.
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58447/limbus-2025/56/#3772364
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By Ovalidal 2025-12-29 19:01:29
What did I get wrong? NOTE: I didn't write the top paragraph, it's already up on the actual Limbus page.
Limbus NM Section:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/User:Ovalidal
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6782
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-29 19:47:09
Quote: Up to four Needed Notorious Monsters may be present in each zone, located randomly Needed throughout the floors
I have reason to believe this is partially incorrect
Only one NM can be alive in any individual wing (NW NE SW WE (Apy), N E W C (Teme), you wont see two NM's alive at the same time in NE apy for example), the NMs and their designated jobs and spawn location are assigned on reset.
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I would fix the Roaming NM table and just make three columns. You dont need to repeat "Warrior" 2x.
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Quote: CN objectives
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Interact with N number of ???.
Minor clarification, but I'm pretty sure this is "spawn X number of ???, not interact.
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By Ovalidal 2025-12-30 06:21:14
...Minor clarification...
I appreciate the feedback! Got those edits in. I've also edited the tables for the zone sectors / floors on my user page. I'm not familiar with the way the wiki's software works, so before I go making live changes entries that will effect multiple pages, I wouldn't mind another set of eyes to run through the "Tables" section at the top of the linked page. They are minimal changes, but changes regardless.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6782
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-31 00:09:50
Looks fine
People can always adjust on the fly if they find things.
Presuming theyre not afraid to edit the wiki lol
Front page news feed bork, I blame ffxiah for me not realizing the update was last night.
I’ll update everything when I get home in an hourish
New Items: https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/December_2025_Version_Update_Changes
Patch Notes: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/63632
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