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November 2025: Post your AMAN Trove Drops
By Felgarr 2025-12-23 23:11:10
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »Another pet theory I've been kicking around since SE announced how the Limbus chests works... what if the zone you enter the aman trove bc mattered in some way? Mimic chance, ITG chance, changing the weights of items in pools, etc. Wouldn't have considered this a remote possibility before Limbus, but now it's on the table, I guess.
Another thing to note is how the ITG intuition prompt might lend to this. Unless the ITG chest bounces constantly, getting an “your intuition was wrong” leads me to believe that things are pre-placed when you enter. But if this were the case I’m sure there would be people using cheats to figure out what chest is what.
And, tinfoil hat me constantly seeing the same orb buyers hitting home runs thinks there already might be.
*tinfoil hat off*
You're probably right. I think things are pre-placed too ...but only discernable server side.
In my case, the best occurrence (which is also my rarest), is when you have 1 ITG on the floor opened already and 3 chests remaining. You have a 2/3rd chance of witnessing chest 9 convert to rainbow or prism, followed by a terminal coffer, which can also be ITG. However, post-12/10 update, I encountered this situation again but with the added possibility of 2 ITGs being on the floor. So, this means that 3 ITGs are 100% possible, and 4 ITGs are theoretically possible (2 ITGs on the floor, last chest converts to rainbow for ITG#3, and finally, the terminal coffer returns ITG#4.)
I am jealous you've been able to track to that conclusion x.x.
I've been tracking my trove luck for the past 8 months, and it's... not great. Many tinfoil meltdowns.
Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts here. Take all of your $1 mules to 99, no subjob, and get those silver vouchers every month. (Even just the first 4 RoEs give vouchers: free Mars Orb, Home Point, Unity, Auction something), it all adds up.
By Felgarr 2025-12-30 12:28:21
This is the first time I've ever seen a Sagasinger from Troves at all.
Has anyone ever seen a Sagasinger specifically before the ITG patch on November, 10th? I was able to confirm just now that it only comes from an ITG pool:
(Noise, ITG, Noise-from the Terminal coffer).
Also, I like to /kneel at the terminal coffer for superstitious reasons. :)
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By Valefor.Philemon 2025-12-30 12:42:54
The only Sagasinger I've seen from trove is dated 11/14 so that tracks.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-01-02 23:03:33
Hey so, if you open 8 chests, isn't the second to last chest supposed to change colors? At minimum, changing to gold?
By Felgarr 2026-01-02 23:10:07
Hey so, if you open 8 chests, isn't the second to last chest supposed to change colors? At minimum, changing to gold?
Unfortunately, when SE added ITG thuds to Mars and Venus orbs, they added a feature where the 9th chest doesn't have to convert to rainbow or gold. I actually REALLY, REALLY dislike this choice, because it adds risk of losing ...with no appreciable reward. It makes no sense to me why they think this is a good idea.
Note: I've only observed no-conversion on Mars Orbs only, not Venus orbs, so someone please share if you see otherwise!
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-01-02 23:12:08
Hey so, if you open 8 chests, isn't the second to last chest supposed to change colors? At minimum, changing to gold?
Unfortunately, when SE added ITG thuds to Mars and Venus orbs, they added a feature where the 9th chest doesn't have to convert to rainbow or gold. I actually REALLY, REALLY dislike this choice, because it adds risk of losing ...with no appreciable reward. It makes no sense to me why they think this is a good idea.
Note: I've only observed no-conversion on Mars Orbs only, not Venus orbs, so someone please share if you see otherwise! Thanks, I thought that might be the case but I'm still shocked it never happened to me before tonight (then it happened twice in a row).
By AegParm 2026-01-02 23:21:42
What's the consensus on Venus vs Mars? Worth the extra vouchers with the changes?
With the introduction of Impossible to Guage thuds, please post your Trove drops.
I've just done some mars orbs and got one ITG thud:
I also noticed a new annoyance with Mars orbs. My final 2 remaining chests where both brown (1 mimic and 1 formerly gold/rainbow chest that is now brown/ordinary). This is in-line with the update notes ...but it is so easy to pick the mimic in that situation.
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