October 2025 Version Update

Botting = having a wardrobe, got it. That's certainly an opinion. We'll have to agree to disagree.


IDK what "booking" wardrobes is, but I do have paid wardrobes. I also multi-box, so I guess if your "gotcha" was supposed to be "you have 2 characters, so you're cheating and pay2win" then...yeah that's true. I do multi box. I wouldn't call it "playing easy mode" since gearing and playing two characters is an insane amount of work, but I guess you can call it whatever you want.

I also brought up the Asura example for a reason. If I were playing on Asura and not Carbuncle, I could have accomplished the same thing (the 8 shields) without paying a single US cent, so i find the "it's p2w" argument very unconvincing. Call it cope if you want, but if one player can do it for free, it's not really p2w to do the exact same thing.

No, you said botting = easy mode.
I said pay2win = easy mode.

Both aren't the same but both are a form of easy mode and for some reason you think your way of easy mode is superior or on some moral high ground over the other hence why you feel it's justified to look down on them from your dhalmel mount.


Everyone could, it would just take them a lot longer without pay2win and last I checked SE doesn't just take money for server jumps but also for extra alts, mules and wardrobes.

So... one character, two free wardrobes. That's it, that's all anybody gets, or else they're just a dirty cheating cheater.

Also, just saying, it's kind of literally impossible for anyone to do 8 crafting shields without, at the barest minimum, paying for 7 mules. Unless they wanted to be the guy who threw away 7 shields before settling on the one they wanted to keep.

Seems everyone has a good opinion, but since everyone wants to be right, they refuse to see it any other way. I kinda agree with everyone and disagree as well. I hate XP loss, but you should gitgud you crybaby loser *** scrub, I delevel so hard on Bumba on mnk its still 49, Maybe it deserves to be 49 because I am lazy. I think we all agree that Maletaru meme was fire tho

Off topic...

I want more 'real' alliance content.

Limbus just became solo or low-man content. Give us some big bad nm that you can fight unless you have 18 players in an alliance. Make it have position mechanics like FFXIV where if you don't do the hookie-pookie you wipe, so ppl can't multi box it easily.

You're getting that before the end of the year in the form of Omega and Ultima!

What happened to the "trust upgrade system" or whatever it was?

Years in development.

IIRC rumor mill says it's slated for sometime 2026 but don't recall if they definitively stated its in the works or just something they've been discussing.

That's literally the thing I dislike the most about XIV.

Just fights that have you react to things in a certain way could be fun, except... well, we kind of tend to just shop that out to addons, as anybody who's watched people lying on the floor and still turning away from the lamiae in ambuscade can attest.

Anything that involves actually moving to specific positions though... basically impossible unless they're highly scripted. Oh, they'd be fine for the Japanese base, but players on other continents will run into that pesky issue of the monster not actually being where our client says it is.

That's like half of why moogle ambuscade sucks so much even after modifications to make it more forgiving. Devs are in Japan, servers are in Japan, testing is never going to account for the latency inherent in communicating with a player in North America.

That said... I'd love to see more fights that expect a bit more engagement than just "hit button when gauge is filled, turn if you see this in the log." Honestly even something as simple as "it has DT-90% against magic and attacks, DT-50% against skillchains, and DT-25% against magic bursts" would be refreshing.

You should try that from Europe.. it's a ***show. Talking 2sec delay from button press to action. Moogle ambu is an instant skip. It's why dyna lag isn't that big of a deal - that kind of delay is on everything whether instanced or not.

IMO things like limbus NMs are fine-ish, minus the lack of rewards. Their health doesn't regen if you wipe, you can take an alliance or three and fight them and be no worse off because they cheat and do TP -> 1hr -> TP -> 1hr back to back to back anyway so just expect you'll die a few times.

I'd expect some of them to get hit by the nerf gun a few months down the line.

I'm not entirely against movement focused gameplay but I find the way they did it in XIV with the colored shapes on the ground low effort, I'd much rather have it telegraphed with distinctive animations sort of like they do in the souls games.
Also movement in XI is clunky and tic rate too low for this type of gameplay.

Trust upgrade system in the works for years? You guys sure it wasn't just that marjory NPC quest or rhapsody KI stat improvement?

They're referencing the potential trust changes that have been planned/in the works for a long time now. Most recently it was shared that their current idea was equipment which would affect trusts in some way to make them better. My guess is it would be something along the lines of the Heidrek gear, but who knows.

Google translate from the 23rd anniversary stream:

Trust equipment? I hope they get their own inventory if they do that.

The most space I'd have is maybe some trust ammo or SE bringing back slightly lesser used auxiliary weapon variety . Eg thf on crossbows/guns . BLM scythes with trust+, and so forth that can be stored in porter slips

That kind of variety is something OG Limbus had that was lost in the update. Pure speculation, but with how modern limbus mobs get level/stats assigned on pull, SE might be able to add selectable(or randomized) pathos effects or run modifiers for more challenge in the future. Probably not... but we can dream, yeah?

That trust stuff sounds alot like the friendship bracelet NPCs that they completely forgot about.

Fellowship of the forgotten NPC, or whatever it was called.

Know what? Them bringing those npcs back would be awesome. I should get back to leveling mine the next time I'm bored.

They need to make trusts customizable somehow. For example, let me turn off Haste 1 from *** Sylvie.

Same complaint 12 years later

Still very valid. Still highly requested. Still no *** given about doing it.

I'm doomed, I literally have the shittiest RNG luck that follows me to other games, I even ended up going 1/97 on Vex Mythoclast on destiny 2.

*** me silly and call me free willy, I have no hope

For the record, there's no difference between Japan/US in terms of "my character isn't where my screen shows it", IME. You still need to lead mobs to auto-attack them and can die in absolute BS places, miss your allies with buffs, etc.

I know this is a commonly held belief, but it's an absolute myth TBH.

I'm sorry, but no. It's not nearly that bad. I farmed up in arms off and on for a good decade before I finally got my kraken club from the box. It took me about two months when malignance was brand new to get the set of 5/5 from lillith, and I farmed it on very easy on thief with TH 8. It took me a good 400 - 450 kills to get my malignance, and I'm sure some of the no drops were because I was solo so I couldn't see duplicates of some of the pieces. This was back when the lines to enter the bcnm were 25 - 30 minutes regularly, so I'd queue up and then watch something on youtube while I waited to enter. The amount of up in arms I did over the time span it took me to get it was probably double what I spent on malignance, and I only got one drop there.

Nothing is kraken club rarity. There is a reason it sells for max gil nowadays.

Crep Cloak would like a word, if it weren't for aman, it'd probably go for a bil too

Still takes less than 300 runs of salvage to make a mythic. Better than farming lilith because you have something to show for it. Nobody is farming malignance as catch up gear if it's this fkin rare.

I have 5 Crep Cloaks lol


(all from AMAN)