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Looking for Twashtar farming tips (Abyssea)
By spicychai 2025-09-17 22:13:39
Hi all, so I've got about 25 scales so far but haven't touched Glavoid or Orthus yet.
Summarising my strategy, but please lemme know if I could do it better or if you can add any tips, (also don't have abyssite of discernment unfortunately yet):
Glavoid
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = THF/WAR, not sure if better subjob exists but I won't need procs for this if I use chest drops.
Strategy = Aeolian spam and farm gold chests - this campaign could be good for it maybe. Could use some tips for boss, I hear it's a proccing nightmare or something similar of that note. (Searched glavoid in the forums and mostly saw posts from 2013-ish so maybe there are good ways to kill it now. Seeing some talk here.)
Izpatl Scales
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = NIN/WAR, wonder if can get away with THF/??? with fewer red procs.
Strategy = Kill 2 NMs like usual, and the timed one, red proccing them all. Spawn, have TH2 hit and kill final NM.
Orthus
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = NIN/WAR, seems like too many NMs to not red proc.
Strategy = Kill NMs like usual and hope the TH2 helps cause a double drop. Didn't see if this boss has any annoying mechanics.
Thanks! I find this part of the farm the most challenging and patience-testing so would appreciate all the help I can get from experienced dancers here.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-09-17 23:29:20
Glavoid: Do not box farm. Amber light sucks in Tahrongi, you basically have to find Bhumi and land an aeolian edge without killing it with auto-attacks which is harder than it sounds. And then when you have the amber light, you have ten key items in that pool, ultimately you end up rolling on a 10% chance of getting that one last piece of the pop set you need. Running around to the mobs is just faster. I think the mid-step pop items may even be 100% drops from Abas and Tefenet (make sure you're remembering to turn away from his death gaze!)
Itzpapalotl: Get phalanx up somehow (Koru-Moru will work if you can engage a mob without killing it) and cleave chigoes, box farm is a lot more viable in Attohwa because there are only six key items to worry about. Watch out for Tunga, he steals buffs, which can be deadly if you have a whole pull of fleas nibbling on you and suddenly that phalanx is gone. Doing the full NM path works too, but doing it both ways felt the fastest to me. Getting from the erucas to the wamouras sucks, pack miasmal counteragents or just warp to conflux 8 and run to the eruca section that way.
Orthrus: Grab Ansherekh when you can, but otherwise, screw farming all that legitimately. Get yourself 56 amber light, 192 azure, and cap pearlescent, then go cleave the detectors over conflux 8. If you're doing it solo, you might be able to use recycle bin smuggling to load up six pops worth at a time and just bang out some quick puppies; try dropping a tiger king hide or Sharabha hide and see what happens when you add another one to the treasure pool via a gold box. Mob drops will bypass the normal inventory check and let you have a second if you're solo, but I don't know if box drops will play nice like that. When fighting Amarok for your key items, be aware that the howling animation prevents staggers, and once he starts using it he doesn't stop spamming it until it's time to cast a spell.
And of course, if at all possible, cheat. Glavoid and Chloris were exactly the problem Kupon I-Aby was created to solve; if you have any, this is the time to use them.
By Kaffy 2025-09-18 00:36:41
thf/war is my preference, missing only 3 red procs is a bit annoying but having TH is much more beneficial.
glavoid is really not bad, should have enough time to do cockatrice and manticore in between gnat and sandworm repops.
itz definitely agree to camp at tunga and box farm.
orthrus, buy as many tiger king hides as you can to save time. you can box farm them if you have to.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-09-18 02:03:18
I am doing this exact thing right now. It's nice to get Amber after you have farmed enough time extensions for your session... but seriously, do not waste time box farming unless you are multi boxing. I wouldn’t do it in Attohwa either as you only need 3 NMs and they are all reasonably close.
This gets easier if you can bring anyone else to hold key items. Some may even sell pops for Glavoid, which is the worst of them all. However, if you get into the flow you will fly through.
I am using THF/WAR with level 1 dagger, sword, scythe (hoe), polearm, club and staff. Don’t bother bringing katana or GK as THF does not get access to those WS. Sometimes you get unlucky and the WS is one of those, but there is a trick to resetting NMs triggers. Flee to the nearest Flux and warp to another just before they reach you. Go back, reclaim, and the trigger will have reset. Repeat this until you get it.
I use Sea Daughter/VV/Apoc for the Regain and RR in case I get caught by Mortal Ray on Tefenet or go AFK in a bad spot. None of this is difficult these days, but I sure do prefer knowing I am making progress, as opposed to relying on dumb luck with chests to do so.
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By Seun 2025-09-18 05:43:31
I take a more focused approach. No light or box farm, just enter on NIN/WAR for procs then job change to THF for the main NM. Farming TE is redundant with so many traverser stones and travel makes it easy enough that you can get in and out without missing timed NM respawns.
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By Carbuncle.Crowlina 2025-09-18 06:15:07
For Glavoid, I preferred to straight farm it on WAR/NIN with all red procs covered and TH4 from gear. Center around keeping the respawn timers of Adze and the worm NM rolling. Otherwise, farm up the pops, pop the NMs, proc as needed, proc the NMs, Glavoid, and repeat.
For Itzpopalotl I also straight farmed on WAR/NIN. It felt like pure torture running all the way back to the start to warp over a little stone barrier, and the chigoe NM is also a little frustrating to proc owing to Chainspell if it takes a while. If I ever do a Twashtar I'll be trying the KI gold box farm for sure.
For Orthrus, I waited until there was no Abyssea campaign active and did a small gold box farm on (you guessed it) WAR/NIN using Xoanan and Cataclysm. Kill using only Cata or auto-attacks, aiming to cap Pearlescent and get Amber to 48. Once Amber's at that threshold, you can start farming in earnest. I mainly auto-attacked things down one by one to preserve lights, and it was basically small gold chests the whole time until Ebon light began to build. As described above, if I got a King Hide I'd drop it into the recycling bin pool and keep popping chests til I had a few in there I could juggle. I remember cleaving with Cata, I'm thinking it was the tigers but I could swear there was something in that area that didn't accumulate Amber light so I kept doing this between hunting the tiger NM.
By K123 2025-09-18 07:04:06
find Bhumi and land an aeolian edge without killing it with auto-attacks which is harder than it sounds. Not if you're disengaged to ws?
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-09-18 07:29:23
find Bhumi and land an aeolian edge without killing it with auto-attacks which is harder than it sounds. Not if you're disengaged to ws?
Yes, but I'm assuming vanilla unless otherwise specified, and vanilla client can't do that. But if you can. you just need to remember to claim with a job ability, spell, or ranged attack first so it has the red nameplate.
Carbuncle.Crowlina said: »aiming to cap Pearlescent and get Amber to 48.
Now, here's the thing, someone who really knows how this works feel free to chime in but... garbage level 1 chests are supposed to be able to appear at "0 - 48" light; that's why I shoot for the extra 8 light to hit 56, but do they actually stop at 48 instead of after 48?
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By spicychai 2025-09-18 07:35:52
Completely forgot pre-pops can come in small chests too, that opens up a lot of routes such as the ones some of you mentioned. I might test some of this out, thanks so far!
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By K123 2025-09-18 08:01:49
I do steal>as to do the Titan or engage then disengage and ws. Can be done without hacks to engage and ws right away
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-09-18 08:55:26
Most mobs in Abyssea-Tahrongi don't give amber light, but Nalls do. Capping amber in tahrongi isn't any more time consuming if you use the right camp than any other zone. Just head to conflux 3 and run north until you find them. You may find someone there taking pictures of a nall for zeni, but apart from that nobody ever has reason to visit there. Just ignore any photographers and cap amber with the rest of the camp. Just be mindful of where Culebre is, because she never lands and it's really annoying when she aggroes you if you have no ranged or magic to deal with her.
Box farming in tahrongi is better done if you want to farm chloris alongside glavoid, but if you do go that rout the most efficient way is to get 2 or 3 of the 4 key items via gold box then go finish the last via the actual nm camp. Thief is the bets job to kill glavoid with. Sub job doesn't matter. Just get treasure hunter 8 on and kill it. I don't think blue proc even affects scale drops. If my memory is correct that's just for Nms that drop weapons and armor. You'd proc blue if you were farming epona's ring for example, but I'm pretty sure treasure hunter is all you need for scales.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-09-18 09:11:44
Quote: (Searched glavoid in the forums and mostly saw posts from 2013-ish so maybe there are good ways to kill it now. Seeing some talk here.)
That was then and this is now. Killing glavoid is trivial with Ilvl gear. Just don't heal him by weaponskilling when he's doing a tp move and he'll crumple after two or three weaponskills. He only has around 150-200k max hp if I remember, and we can hit him for 99k now. When glavoid came out the highest damage dagger was 45 base damage and rudra's storm's tp anchor tiers were 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 at 1, 2 and 3k tp respectively. Back in the abyssea days when that content was still new we were farming him with atma of the razed ruin and marveling at how amazing our 4500 damage eviscerations and 7k sneak attack rudra's were. Nowadays anything with Ilvl gear will be hitting him for that much damage with just regular melee swings and any weaponskill chunks him for about half his total life.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-18 10:05:29
I just did this and al lot of this probably has been said
I completely skipped glavoid so I can't really offer my opinion on the experience however I appreciate people saying their experience with gold chests that was something I was going to try.
For attowa I got stuck between miasmas and eventually gave up doing anything but gold chests
I used chicos with capped gold and 128 azure since it took a while for me to build lights.
Tunga let's you default on that ki at least
And it's close by to the actual pop
I dboxed as many tiger king Hides as possible from the AH
And if I had 5mins to zone in.
This was a pain point for this zone as the other items act as a rotation while you wait for a respawn
Attowa is a no go during the campaign for abbysea
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By Bahamut.Noscrying 2025-09-18 10:37:21
I just did this and al lot of this probably has been said
I completely skipped glavoid so I can't really offer my opinion on the experience however I appreciate people saying their experience with gold chests that was something I was going to try.
For attowa I got stuck between miasmas and eventually gave up doing anything but gold chests
I used chicos with capped gold and 128 azure since it took a while for me to build lights.
Tunga let's you default on that ki at least
And it's close by to the actual pop
I dboxed as many tiger king Hides as possible from the AH
And if I had 5mins to zone in.
This was a pain point for this zone as the other items act as a rotation while you wait for a respawn
Attowa is a no go during the campaign for abbysea
For Attowah you can buy Miasmal whatevers to make it go away.
I think I did all Itz scales in 2.5 stacks of them.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-09-18 10:45:44
Attowa is a no go during the campaign for abbysea
You're joking, right? I mean, I'd buy that if you were on Asura or something, but I spent two whole days in Attohwa last week and saw four other people zone in, only one of whom ever appeared near the Itzpapalotl farming gauntlet.
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-09-18 11:00:42
Itza-moth is the easiest of the three phases by far. Orthrus isn't really bad but in my experience botters and RMT love to camp the tiger king hide which can make getting a pop a royal pain in the ***. They sell for 220k each on asura so it can actually get quite expensive if you're forced to buy them off the auction house. And yes, you absolutely wanna have a warrior or ninja with some level 1 glamor weapons of every variety along to proc red. Its frustrating getting a tiger king hide only to not get the orthrus pop from Amarok.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-18 11:09:09
Attowa is a no go during the campaign for abbysea
You're joking, right? I mean, I'd buy that if you were on Asura or something, but I spent two whole days in Attohwa last week and saw four other people zone in, only one of whom ever appeared near the Itzpapalotl farming gauntlet.
If you are box farming the capped lights make it very frustrating to see ki chests
I did it on a weekend with and a weekend without
Without the campaign is much more efficient
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By Bismarck.Tyconus 2025-09-18 11:15:27
The pathing for Glavoid I found best for me was:
Glavoid > worm > ladybug > #5 to #2 > eft > #2 to #4 > cockatrice > cockatrice nm > leopards > leopard nm > manticore > manticore nm > Glavoid
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-09-18 11:17:41
Oh, you mean lights-wise. I dunno, I don't find it too bad, if you go 255 amber you get a pretty good mix of gold and blue. What I learned last time I tried off campaign is that if you build amber but not blue, you still seem to get a bunch of blue chests, they're just garbage. That's why I recommend 192 azure on NM boxes; it's not going to let you have all gold boxes, may as well make the blue ones worthwhile.
(Also, Attohwa not being too bad to farm out normally, it can be worth doing on campaign just for the free instant access to time extension chests.)
Now, Altepa I would say is a total wash during the campaign. If your azure is fully capped, it's going to wash out lower level amber, and you just don't get the boxes you need.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-18 11:23:01
I skipped boxes entirely for Altepa the rotation was just to engaging and if I didn't get a tiger hide I just took one of my extras out of the dbox or kept on with the rotation
I didn't bother learning how the miasma worked for attowa and just kept on with boxes
experiment with 128-192 azure for future readers for time chests
The capped azure and red from event 255? Was cumbersome imo.
By darkwaffle 2025-09-18 11:29:54
I just did this a couple weeks ago. I did it as THF/WAR with 10/13 procs. Never did Empyrean farming before but this is what I found worked best for me.
Glavoid
First hit Adze and Minhocao since they're timed.
Go to Adas and farm up 6 Quivering Eft Eggs. 5 in the bin and 1 in inventory. Then do the same for Tefenet.
Go to Alectryon, kill birds for Tail Meat, pop and proc.
Go to Muscaliet, kill manticores for Mane, pop and proc.
Go to Glavoid, get your shells.
Restart with Adze and Minhocao but skip Adas and Tefenet until you're out of pop items.
Not having to run down to Adas makes it a lot less annoying. You might even prefer just farming up 11 Eft Eggs and simply killing Tefenet regularly in your loop since he's roughly between Adze/Alectryon.
Itzpapalotl
Note I did this farming boxes and I did have a second character. I think if you don't have a partner or a mule to hold duplicate KIs it'd be a lot less reliable. I did it during the abyssea campaign and it was doable but I have a hunch it'd be substantially better without so much azure light.
I opted to warp to 5 to raise amber on treants since they're worth 16 each. Go for max.
Then do Eruca since it's not really out of the way and getting back there from chigoes is annoying.
Warp to 7, run north to pull all the chigoes and then bring them back south. Bring them south so your chest opening isn't interrupted by respawns. Cleave. You'll often pick up Tunga - worth trying to proc him just because that's +1 KI but not critical.
Open all the big gold boxes and distribute accordingly. With two characters I would usually try to complete a popset on one first and then kill Itz immediately to reopen those KI slots - want to minimize how many hit the ground. Also pay attention to which KIs you have - if you're in a situation where you're just missing 2x Eruca or 2x Wamoura I'd say go do them normally. Or if you need 2x Tunga then make sure you try to proc him.
On my world the Demon Blood from chigoes sold reasonably well, hang onto that and be mindful of the rest of the crap you get from them and the boxes filling your inventory.
Orthrus
As thief you can get some Amber easily with Aeolian Edge but you don't want ruby so setup your weapons/gear/atma so that you can easily auto attack kill non-NMs. But feel free to throw a few WSes at the NMs to speed them up, just try to avoid killing them with one.
Kill Ansherakh, ultimately the Tiger King Hides will be your bottleneck so try to stay on top of him. You can carry multiples using the recycle bin method again.
Begin to farm up HQ Dhalmel Hides and Sandcaked Fangs > Sharabha hides. Kill a few enemies with Aeolian Edge to build a bit of amber, 40-60ish seemed good. Ebony light will throw it off eventually but you can't help that.
Head down to tigers for Ansherakh every ~15-20 minutes. Keep all spare pop items in your bin.
Once your bin starts to fill up go pop Amarok. If you can't proc him then run south to the conflux, warp, reclaim and proc. Repeat as necessary.
Pop and kill Orthrus once you have the KI but don't lose track of Ansherakh.
My 'goal' was for Ansherakh to be dead and the bin to be filled with HQ Dhalmel Hides and Sharabha Hides so that I could simply pop every time he dropped and relax otherwise.
A bit of amber during the campaign didn't result in anything useful for me. Outside the campaign it gave me a fair few Sharabha and Tiger King hides. I also didn't use my second character as a party member but did have it taxi pop items off the AH to me or to hold extra hides when I called it quits for the night.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-18 11:31:50
***. I forgot about the recycle bin...
That probably would have been awesome
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-09-18 11:32:44
Event doesn't do red, not even SE is that out of touch.
As for how the miasma works, basically: "screw you." Maybe there's a timetable, but I find the most reliable way to predict it is "if you want to get through, there will be miasma in the way." The counteragent helps but not every spot you get blocked on has a trade point to feed it to. I hope whoever came up with that particular design decision is spending their days making sure chocobo *** feathers are properly animated over on FFXIV now.
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By Dodik 2025-09-18 11:42:58
If enough complaints get made about the Attohwa miasmas maybe they'll get removed like the Foret blushes.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-18 11:45:33
They already did. It's called counteragent.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/M._Counteragent
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-18 12:00:49
A tragedy in three parts.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-09-18 12:10:09
The pathing for Glavoid I found best for me was:
Glavoid > worm > ladybug > #5 to #2 > eft > #2 to #4 > cockatrice > cockatrice nm > leopards > leopard nm > manticore > manticore nm > Glavoid
I did this except I would usually Flee from the Efts to Cockatrice.
***. I forgot about the recycle bin...
That probably would have been awesome
I completely forgot this was a thing. Awesome feature if you are solo and want to stack up.
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By Carbuncle.Crowlina 2025-09-18 19:25:39
Cecause Ebon light increases the value of all other lights, if I plan to be in there a while I leave Amber at 48, because after a point or two of Ebons I'll be squarely in the range I want for Amber.
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By Carbuncle.Arakon 2025-09-18 21:02:12
For THF/WAR, if you have a problem with red proc on timed pop NMs, you can go to the nearest teleport point and port to another location to lose aggro and reset the red proc.
If you get interrupted often trying to teleport, can use the superwarp addon, less likely to be interrupted.
I find farming with THF/WAR more efficient as it has higher drop rate for the pop items and the upgrade items.
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By Seun 2025-09-18 22:42:37
There is only one miasma you can't get around with conflux, but they alternate frequently enough that it wouldn't break your cycle even if you're warping out to change jobs like I did.
Just do the miasma walk while you go pet grass or deliver a brief, yet entertaining monologue to your pet about how little SE respects our time.
Hi all, so I've got about 25 scales so far but haven't touched Glavoid or Orthus yet.
Summarising my strategy, but please lemme know if I could do it better or if you can add any tips, (also don't have abyssite of discernment unfortunately yet):
Glavoid
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = THF/WAR, not sure if better subjob exists but I won't need procs for this if I use chest drops.
Strategy = Aeolian spam and farm gold chests - this campaign could be good for it maybe. Could use some tips for boss, I hear it's a proccing nightmare or something similar of that note. (Searched glavoid in the forums and mostly saw posts from 2013-ish so maybe there are good ways to kill it now. Seeing some talk here.)
Izpatl Scales
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = NIN/WAR, wonder if can get away with THF/??? with fewer red procs.
Strategy = Kill 2 NMs like usual, and the timed one, red proccing them all. Spawn, have TH2 hit and kill final NM.
Orthus
Atma = Suneater (STP) + Persistent (STP)
Jobs = NIN/WAR, seems like too many NMs to not red proc.
Strategy = Kill NMs like usual and hope the TH2 helps cause a double drop. Didn't see if this boss has any annoying mechanics.
Thanks! I find this part of the farm the most challenging and patience-testing so would appreciate all the help I can get from experienced dancers here.
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