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By Dodik 2025-09-10 04:29:06
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Lili said: »
Asura.Melliny said: »
There's no reason to for something mundane like posting here on the forms.

You (and I, and many else) are paying the price for the laziness of the rest of the world. I know multiple people who no longer write their own messages at all, and are wearing down their ctrl, c, and v keys instead.

I am getting so good at rolling my eyes really hard when the first thing anyone says is "I did this with AI".

You didn't do squat ***. And I'm so sick of hearing about "AI"s.

/derail sorry.

NMs are great.

Also those bare Alabaster Mantle and Murky Mantle are screaming "augment system".
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By klayy 2025-09-10 04:29:55
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My understanding of the "matter" is your server has to kill NMs, the more you kill the better your chance of drop from chest is. Only from chest I think. First time through, everyone is guaranteed a matter. After that.. i guess you could get 5 a week if lucky? Kinda like the 3K or 5K deal but hopefully with better odds. When you upgrade with further matter. It reads like units don't come into it at all so maybe can not horde them and just go back to spending them? Not sure. But no one should see a matter till next week. Doesnt matter if you participated in a kill or not. But these things are popping a ton so imagine on asura at least the matter rate will be decent.
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By RadialArcana 2025-09-10 04:49:02
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If you zone in somewhere and everything is black (minus your character and NPCs/homepoints), then it means you're using some kind of HD texture pack. The client experiences frane delays when loading higher density textures, and this can cases black screens and momentary synchronization issues between the client and server. If you find yourself spamming a macro or button in situations were you would normally expect these presses to work consistently, you could be throttling your client's performance with these mods.

(This is just one reason why I don't use them).

A black zone (where your character and other players exist and move), just means the game could not load the zone file.
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By K123 2025-09-10 05:09:22
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Tbh the fast cast cape they added pissed me off. Sure you can use needles to reuse a cape but really they should have let you trade them back for a back voucher and all the materials. A slap in the face for all those that took the effort to make them for every mage job, and even then we still have to make them for other jobs.

I expect the mage cape will get int and mab and replace nuking capes completely, but I'm not sure the wsd cape is going to be a winner since some jobs need vit, agi, Dex capes and they can't put all stats+30 on it or it becomes op for ws with two stat mods
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-10 05:22:33
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There's no fast cast cape?
Or did I miss it? °-°

I only saw a cape with Mdmg+33 and another one with WSD+11%
Both of which could or could not become better than the respective specific capes we have.
Depends on the augs! For the WSD one at least, I can surely see it become better for instance for situations where you don't have specific capes.
Like for instance I have a STR/WSD cape I made for a STR based WS, then I have another DEX based WS and I still use the STR/WSD one because I didn't bother to make a second specific cape.
For all this sort of situations this new cape is likely gonna become a better option.
But when you have a very specific one... well, probably it won't.
But let's see!
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By Shichishito 2025-09-10 05:43:55
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Early on the NMs might be annoying/challenging but depending on where the graces cap out they eventually become a similar push over to what domain invasion dragons are.
Last I checked graces gave +800HP and at least +18 to all stats.
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By K123 2025-09-10 05:50:29
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Asura.Sechs said: »
There's no fast cast cape?
Or did I miss it? °-°

I only saw a cape with Mdmg+33 and another one with WSD+11%
Both of which could or could not become better than the respective specific capes we have.
Depends on the augs! For the WSD one at least, I can surely see it become better for instance for situations where you don't have specific capes.
Like for instance I have a STR/WSD cape I made for a STR based WS, then I have another DEX based WS and I still use the STR/WSD one because I didn't bother to make a second specific cape.
For all this sort of situations this new cape is likely gonna become a better option.
But when you have a very specific one... well, probably it won't.
But let's see!
I mean the one they added already with unity augmenting. I think this'll be another slap in the face for those if it's which have made 20 wsd capes.

I feel like they might add all stat+20 to it so it's never quite as good as ambu capes like null cape isn't quite as good for TP (arguably better because of meva but for pure damage it's not).
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By K123 2025-09-10 05:52:18
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Also I expect they take normal limbus points to buy? Or will they be sadistic and make it a random chance to obtain them from chest each week and they are augmented with limbus points?

Will we be able to dat mine the augments?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-10 05:59:04
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K123 said: »
Will we be able to dat mine the augments?

Most likely can, as long as they are the dyna-d style of RP based upgrades. Dyna-D and RMEA style upgrades have their own resource, so should be able to at least find the 4 options if they're that style. Might not be able to determine which item each goes to, though.

Delve-style RP based upgrades link in the sub attributes differently, those can't be mined.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-09-10 06:13:50
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So we have SE trying to do things about overcrowding on certain servers but continuing to make systems that benefit players to be on larger population servers.

Smaller servers will kill NMs less and already have way less grace.
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By Dodik 2025-09-10 06:15:52
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Doesn't sound like a lot of incentive to get off highly populated servers.

Certainly not an incentive to move to them for those not already there.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-09-10 06:18:41
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »
Smaller servers will kill NMs less and already have way less grace.

While true, the grace value doesn't mean much, and I'm sure it won't be difficult for smaller servers to kill 4 NMs per day, that's not exactly a tall task.
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By Minaras84 2025-09-10 06:22:46
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Felgarr said: »
Minaras84 said: »
You guys zoned in Tavnazian safehold yet?
All i see are the homepoint and the npc.
All the rest is black, and i'm bound next to the hp

If you zone in somewhere and everything is black (minus your character and NPCs/homepoints), then it means you're using some kind of HD texture pack. The client experiences frane delays when loading higher density textures, and this can cases black screens and momentary synchronization issues between the client and server. If you find yourself spamming a macro or button in situations were you would normally expect these presses to work consistently, you could be throttling your client's performance with these mods.

(This is just one reason why I don't use them).

I solved with the stupid files repair from pol and then re swapped the few dats i use.
It's kind of weird, it's the first time it happens in years and the .dats i use are just the icon ones, hp,brd songs and cor rolls, no hq packs, just manually swap (i know...i know).
Oh well, just spent half an hour doing something different lol
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By Tarage 2025-09-10 06:39:44
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Where does it say anything about a person needing to be there at the kill to get rewards?
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By Ragnarok.Vargasfinio 2025-09-10 06:39:56
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Naturally they add a way to get more cheap alex a few days after I turn in my 30,000 for Tizona...you are all welcome.

The accessories could be interesting depending on the augments available. I'm all for (potentially) saving more wardrobe space.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-10 06:43:45
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »
So we have SE trying to do things about overcrowding on certain servers but continuing to make systems that benefit players to be on larger population servers.

Smaller servers will kill NMs less and already have way less grace.

Dodik said: »
Doesn't sound like a lot of incentive to get off highly populated servers.

Certainly not an incentive to move to them for those not already there.

Yeah, well, duh.

They want you to be on the populated server. They incentivize being on the populated server. Then they complain that you're on the populated server.

They ain't. The brightest.
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...... if they do some sort of increased rate, it will be based on kills per server, hence the push to balance servers instead of tilting it to asura in 1 week. Which is really stupid, which means thats what they're planning.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-09-10 07:05:40
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Ragnarok.Vargasfinio said: »
a way to get more cheap alex

if you assume 15 min for 400 besieged points, an average 12.5 alex per purse, you're getting a whopping 66.66 alex an hour from participating in 4 besiegeds, never mind the context switching and unpredictability

i really don't think this is going to introduce much extra alex to the market, though i'm sure there are a few people who mindlessly acquire points and don't consider value proposition that will buy them
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-09-10 08:03:10
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
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The issue in Limbus wherein Apollyon Cyhiraeth's race was incorrect.

What the hell does this mean? Do they have genitals or something?

Wern't they undead whilst they're supposed to be demons since they're on the demon wing?

Its the opposite. They're supposed to be undead (they still aggro low HP) but they appeared with the demons and they were classified as demons. Hamanoha affected it, which was incorrect.

I wonder if they moved them to the undead floor, they were out of place.
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By Tarage 2025-09-10 08:09:18
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Matsui-P trust is gone. Might be switching.
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By Ovalidal 2025-09-10 08:50:58
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
if you assume 15 min for 400 besieged points, an average 12.5 alex per purse, you're getting a whopping 66.66 alex an hour from participating in 4 besiegeds, never mind the context switching and unpredictability

i really don't think this is going to introduce much extra alex to the market, though i'm sure there are a few people who mindlessly acquire points and don't consider value proposition that will buy them

This is a good point. We have at least 1 more update to Besieged, I wonder if they'll add anything else when that happens.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2025-09-10 08:53:26
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BG Items updated
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-10 08:55:48
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Wut, where are the archduke items coming from?
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-09-10 08:57:13
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idk, but if someone gets the sword please share how it impacts your en spell duration so i can update timers :)
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By Asura.Volteczero 2025-09-10 10:03:57
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So I don't actually have to participate in killing the NMs and still get the benefit next week? Just do regular objective next week and collect my EBT card from the chest?
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By Kaffy 2025-09-10 10:07:04
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from what I understand you check if the chest changed colors. if yes, no need to kill more NMs.

nevermind, that's for the previous week. so all that really offers is a quick way to tell if your server met the goal last week or not.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-09-10 10:12:20
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Asura.Volteczero said: »
So I don't actually have to participate in killing the NMs and still get the benefit next week? Just do regular objective next week and collect my EBT card from the chest?

Apparently not, which is kind of a weird system, but I guess they didn't want players missing out on the bonus simply because they couldn't make it out to an NM within that week.

Do the NMs drop an enormmous amount of points for the effort (like 5000+)? Because I can't see people running out to Temenos/Apollyon to participate (at least on larger servers) if there's kind of no benefit to doing so individually, and the chances someone else will kill it is already high.
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By Kaffy 2025-09-10 10:13:14
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0 points for the kill, from what I saw last night.
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2025-09-10 10:13:54
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Wut, where are the archduke items coming from?

Ya know, I'm happy they're adding more endgame shield. However, I wish they expanded the jobs that were on it. I appreciate that all of these job have native shield skill except SAM, but I don't expect to see them using this thing any time soon. I would have loved to see BRD or GEO on it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-09-10 10:14:40
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Kaffy said: »
0 points for the kill, from what I saw last night.

Did you open a chest at the end of a run to see if maybe there was some kind of multiplier added to your Unit total?
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By Asura.Volteczero 2025-09-10 10:15:19
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Kaffy said: »
0 points for the kill, from what I saw last night.
yikes