Addon: JSE

You have to excuse me but its sounds lot of bull, its hard to take your word for it.
There are a lot of addons on the internet that falls into that category, if SE really wanted to crack down they could but what do they win on it?

That's why it feels you leaving out 90% of the full story but I have a feeling we won't get to the bottom of it.
The line threaten with legal action, for what exactly? Your explanation feels super vague to me.

There is really not much more info that I have either, my account just got banned, and I don't exactly know why.

I did get in touch with SE support since mid-August to get more info about my ban and they were never willing to share more.
(I'm pretty sure they do this on purpose)
I even used the EU Digital Service Act to try to force them into giving me more information but they still did not, replied that the initial ban email was detailed enough in accordance with the DSA and was the only info they were allowed to share.

I also used the General Data Protection Regulation to retreive all personal data that SE was holding about me to see if there was any extra info there, but there wasn't anything appart from what I already knew.

So again you can beleive what ever you want, I'm not here to change your paradigm or scare you from using addons, I'm just telling you what happened to my account. I honestly wish I had more info myself as to what exactly caused the ban, at least I would have some sort of closure.

If some of my friends didn't ping me on discord about you guys asking in this thread I would not have come here to answer any of the questions, I don't really care about sharing addons with anyone.

(And if you're wondering, no I was not using any kind of speed or position tools when I was playing. It was all supposedly "harmless" stuff)

In my experience, SE only sends one form email. You get banned for cheating and botting or for RMT. The email says which, and gives no further details. Given that basically every endgame player uses all sorts of third party tools, it's zero information. Even those who claim not to use speed and pos often have dumb things like fastfollow or a no-interruption lua potentially creating the same effects.


I find it extremely unlikely that they requested you delete your addons and mods. Despite there being dozens of other developers with tools that provide much greater impact, none have made such a claim. I don't understand what reason you have to lie about it, so I'm not going to outright accuse you of doing so. But, if I pretend this is true:

How did they contact you to request this, and what was the exact wording? It's entirely unprecedented, and without that level of detail I don't think anyone is going to take you very seriously.

They didn't specifically ask about my GitHub, but that was my interpretation of the wording in the emails.

Again this was my only character and account, so I have no point of reference about other bans.

My guess is that either something you made sent inappropriate packets, you got inadvertently flagged for POS due to using tools like fastfollow or no-interrupt, or you botted for too many hours.

There's no precedent for being banned based on Github activity and the form email is identical for everyone I've spoken to regarding bans. I think you may have read too much into it; the language is generic and people who blatantly speedhack get the exact same email.

No ones saying you're lying, but were also very hard pressed to believe based on 20+ years (damn we old) of understanding how the ban process plays out from stories from various parties over the years. You're the first one suggesting that you were banned by association of your github account (which goes against the common belief that SE wont use anything not on SE's servers as proof of ToS violations) hosting FFXI addons and are also the first* one to suggest SE pursuing legal recourse over it, which will get a LOT of attention from people.


*I guess second since the dude who made FFXIAPP said they were hounded with a C&D from SE's lawyers, but multiple rumors came out suggesting the C&D was a lie and guy just didnt want to maintain the software any longer. But that was also paid software, so not the same.

The only "position hack" I was using was superwarp on city crystals and sortie bitzers.

I didn't have multiple accounts or characters so I didn't multibox, fastfollow, bot for hours.

Regardless if I did read into it too much, I was not going to take chances just to keep addons up for shits and giggles.
Even worst if as you said, there were actually some packets getting tracked by SE I wouldn't want anyone else to get banned because of an addon I made.

And again I'm not here to scare anybody from using or making addons, I was just answering the initial question as to why my github was closed.

Certainly not trying to convince you to reopen your Github or tell you how to live your life. Just want to be clear that if all you received was the generic form email, that's not a threat to close it and portraying it that way is very misleading to other people who've got addons on Github.

I don't know what the generic form email looks like, I just told you above what was in the ones I received.
If that's the generic one and you think it's up for interpretation it's your own view on things. I just read it differently.

And I'm not trying to mislead or scare anyone who's making addons, what benefit would I get from that ? I was already gone from this forum for months until someone poked me on discord about this.

My guy
Youre the one who said you were banned because of addons on github matching your IG game then followed up with “gambling with lawyers IRL”.

You brought up possible litigation over ffxi addons, now saying “im not trying to scare people”. Yeah, threat of litigation will spook most people, and people will obviously start asking questions.

if the sentence "... would result in further legal actions" in your world implies that you've done nothing wrong then that's you're take on things.
To me that means that lawyers will get involved and I didn't want to have anything to do with it, I had already lost my account.

Can you show the email? I never heard or seen a SE support email notifying you getting banned stating it can lead to further legal actions.

Sent you a PM

Sorry to hear what happened to you
It was a great addon

Were you working on anything that interacted directly with NPCs?

Yes actually I was, I had a tool that would automatically buy meds from the moogle to restock for Sortie. Why do you ask ?

I was told certain interactions trigger some automatic flags

This statement is absurdly vague. No, 'certain interactions' don't trigger automatic flags. If the addon is implemented correctly, the server cannot distinguish it from a legitimate use. I've had automatic med buying from curio since the moogles were released and not been acted on. If that was the cause, it's likely his addon had errors.

If the intent isn't to fearmonger, why PM the email instead of just sharing it openly? Obviously people can draw their own conclusions as to whether it's legitimate or not, but the whole thing just doesn't smell right to me.

Because I don't want to share it publically and even more so with you Thorny, disregarding this whole discussion I never respected you as a person.
We both know what your little side gig is, of course you'd want to get your hands on any kind info that could affect your business.

I don't care if you like me. There's no secret information for me in the way they worded your email: either you're telling the truth and you got threatened about your Git or you're not. It doesn't effect how I run my business: everything I share is 100% free and does not generate profit for me. If I was threatened and closed my Git, I'd lose nothing and gain a bit of free time.

Personally, I think you either got the standard email and are too stupid to understand it's not a legal threat, or you were embarrassed to get banned and made up some crap to cover with your friends. I was polite and gave benefit of the doubt because the discussion was interesting. I have no self-interest here.

Sorry dumb dumb, not falling for that little trick.
Mass creating and selling accounts is 100% free and does not generate profit <wink wink nudge nudge>

I mass create and sell accounts. I also mass farm and sell gil. It's not a secret, I just don't wave it around because it's disrespectful to advertise on a community site like this.

My Github has no relation to any of that, so it doesn't matter to my business if SE is threatening people over their code on Github. I didn't think that had to be spelled out. I'm also not the one eating bans, because my code works correctly. Nobody can force you to share the email, but the idea that it somehow gives me some business advantage to know they threatened a script kiddie over their handful of garbage addons is patently absurd.

I was engaging from the point of skeptical curiosity. If you don't believe me, that's fine. I don't believe you either.

Why is this still even going on.

You got the generic ban letter that we've all seen. They would absolutely never threaten anyone over anything.
(with the one exception being darkstar 20 years ago)

Yup I did get that one first but that's not the one I'm talking about

Let's bump this back to the top coz it's pure gold, I wouldn't dare change the subject.
I will bring this back up every time you break my balls Thorny.

lol they didn’t send you anything about your git, stop gaslighting the community. There is way bigger fish to fry if they were going to be doing stuff that like

Thorny's the RMT whos helped the community plenty of times, whos used their knowledge and skillset to figure things out of the game (ie: used their characters to generate a shitton of data for the TH discussions as an example, just today wrote up a small addon for the people in the mastery rank to make their lives easier)

Eiryl's the RMT who constantly shits on the game and its playerbase and says everything about the game is ***and you should not be playing while talking about how much money they make. Spoiler alert: people who make a lot of money dont flaunt how much money they make.



Now, at this point I'm pretty sure you got banned and just yanked your github along the addons, because "I got banned so this ***is useless to me now, *** that community I'm not part of anymore". The only thing you deleted from OP is the github link, you didnt delete anything else whatsoever, and your github is private now too.

They didn’t share the email with me but wanted me to add them on discord. I’m sorry but I’m not doing that. If you’re afraid sensitive information is in said email, then censor personal information. We want to confirm it’s legitimate and I keep getting red flags.

EF has been on git for 7 years and not a whimper. also nobody yelling they made it and under which name, but still. if you got in trouble it surely wasn't any of the addons you claim.