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By SimonSes 2026-01-19 10:30:25
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Asura.Hadroncollider said: »
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with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance.

With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain?

well, what gearsets actually use nyame legs path B on rdm? savage blade and black halo, atleast those are the only ones worth it besides maybe fully upgraded sortie weapons ws's. when is it worth using those 2 ws's? in party situations when your fully buffed and at attack cap (black halo) or not at attack cap because unga-bunga DD's need an accuracy song to be able to hit and Naeglings buff-attack bonus does the trick. Would I run a test soloing unbuffed with savage blade or black halo wich are weaponskills i use rather rarely? no. would I throw my best gear options defensive and offensive wise on those rare occations to do up to 6k more dame per ws? no. Is 27 STP less than 39 STP and makes a difference? yes. would I advice anyone doing what mostly only fits my playstyle wich is pretty self centered? not if you use rdm mostly in group content. Is there any reason to tell someone his opinion on how to gear for his playstyle is "not true" based on something they call "meta" and only covers 10% of the actual game for me and is best to use for multiboxers? I guess here it is. you might be able to count to 3, but no. your ws frequency will be lower with bunzi head and malignance and droping 12% wsd has no impact if you dont use a weaponskill that doesnt fully benefit from wsd. But the whole discussion is kinda obsolete at this point anyways, as everything might completly change. RDM/DRK seems to look interesting with the sworn set as you can almost reliably dish out 6-8 hit ws's without wasting any multihit on the offhand hit from dual wield in your 8-hit caped attack round.

Ok so your scenario is solo right?
And you are using Almace?
This is very specific scenario, that you are pretty much mentioning at the end of discussion, so I would consider it a bait attempt.

Anyway, sim is showing best tp set with 3.085s to WS and only Nyame A it uses is feet. Using Nyame legs,head and feet requires you to use Alabaster earring to make up for haste loss and assuming its r30, that set is 3.087s.

That 3/5 Nyame set and using CDC (with nyame A legs) produces around 6070 dps.

Now having no Nyame A at all and using path B for CDC produces around 5978 dps.

So you are loosing access to Nyame path B, to gain 1.5% dps in your very specific solo scenario.

inb4 sim is wrong and your dps gain is actually 20%, because you eyeballed it in game on 5 mobs sample size.
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By Asura.Hadroncollider 2026-01-19 14:57:05
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SimonSes said: »
Asura.Hadroncollider said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Hadroncollider said: »
with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance.

With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain?

well, what gearsets actually use nyame legs path B on rdm? savage blade and black halo, atleast those are the only ones worth it besides maybe fully upgraded sortie weapons ws's. when is it worth using those 2 ws's? in party situations when your fully buffed and at attack cap (black halo) or not at attack cap because unga-bunga DD's need an accuracy song to be able to hit and Naeglings buff-attack bonus does the trick. Would I run a test soloing unbuffed with savage blade or black halo wich are weaponskills i use rather rarely? no. would I throw my best gear options defensive and offensive wise on those rare occations to do up to 6k more dame per ws? no. Is 27 STP less than 39 STP and makes a difference? yes. would I advice anyone doing what mostly only fits my playstyle wich is pretty self centered? not if you use rdm mostly in group content. Is there any reason to tell someone his opinion on how to gear for his playstyle is "not true" based on something they call "meta" and only covers 10% of the actual game for me and is best to use for multiboxers? I guess here it is. you might be able to count to 3, but no. your ws frequency will be lower with bunzi head and malignance and droping 12% wsd has no impact if you dont use a weaponskill that doesnt fully benefit from wsd. But the whole discussion is kinda obsolete at this point anyways, as everything might completly change. RDM/DRK seems to look interesting with the sworn set as you can almost reliably dish out 6-8 hit ws's without wasting any multihit on the offhand hit from dual wield in your 8-hit caped attack round.

Ok so your scenario is solo right?
And you are using Almace?
This is very specific scenario, that you are pretty much mentioning at the end of discussion, so I would consider it a bait attempt.

Anyway, sim is showing best tp set with 3.085s to WS and only Nyame A it uses is feet. Using Nyame legs,head and feet requires you to use Alabaster earring to make up for haste loss and assuming its r30, that set is 3.087s.

That 3/5 Nyame set and using CDC (with nyame A legs) produces around 6070 dps.

Now having no Nyame A at all and using path B for CDC produces around 5978 dps.

So you are loosing access to Nyame path B, to gain 1.5% dps in your very specific solo scenario.

inb4 sim is wrong and your dps gain is actually 20%, because you eyeballed it in game on 5 mobs sample size.


I dont think Almace is a very specific scenario that could be a bite attempt if its about soloing as it makes sense to solo with it... I also dont know what exactly the sim does as I went with as much stp I need to get to 1k TP in the smalest number of hits after ws and how much stp I need in WS set to make it possible. I also got Lehko's Ring as my TP gear is focused on dex, stp and crit (66%)so I dont have any haste problems.
The comparison was no food, only trust cornelia, only buffs I could cast myself (705 enhancing skill back then), AM3 maintained, nin sub, Dia III:
main="Almace",
sub="Gleti's knife",
ammo="Aurgelmir Orb +1",
head="Bunzi's Hat", (r25)
neck="Lissome Necklace",
ear1="Eabani Earring",
ear2="Sherida Earring",
body="Malignance Tabard",
hands="Malignance Gloves",
ring1="Ilabrat Ring",
ring2="Chirich Ring +1",
back="Sucellos's Cape",
waist="Reiki Yotai",
legs="Malignance Tights",
feet="Malignance Boots"
+88STP 96TP/hit/8 hits to 1k
TP/hit on incoming dmg 22((if anyone cares)/7 hit build after 5 hits on me)

vs my Tp set with 3 nyame path A parts:
+109stp 109TP/hit/7 hits to 1k
TP/hit on incoming dmg 30((if anyone cares)/6 hit build after 4 hits on me)

target was 33 apex hornflys + 22 locus hornflys, tryed to hold 3 at all times to make it as close to a solo scenario as possible. dps on scoreboard was ~4100 on 1st set and ~4800 on second, WS set was the same for both (old). Also 1st set required me to cast cure IV 6 times, 2nd set 2 times.
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By SimonSes 2026-01-19 16:40:08
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Asura.Hadroncollider said: »
I dont think Almace is a very specific scenario that could be a bite attempt if its about soloing as it makes sense to solo with it...

The bait was, that you was talking about those sets for 4 posts and only in 5th you said anything about your specific scenario of being solo. We were obviously talking about party scenario and you knew it and you was intentionally waiting to come out with information about solo.

Lehko is very specific ring too, especially for RDM. Not having Ephramad's is a major dps loss for party scenario.

Also what exactly you are gearing for with that solo set? Most solo fights are very specific. I would also consider things like /dnc and haste samba for faster tp gain and additional -13% def if you need it. Also Nitric Baselard. Going for -52% def down can change what you use a lot. WS wall would be another issue if you go for something like E boss.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2026-01-19 17:46:00
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The things about that set I find weirdest is you say you have lehko's but you aren't using it in the tp set and also using that neck over Anu torque. I realize you are wanting to reach specific hit builds but the extra store tp from those 2 slots would allow you to have enough extra to run Hatairoi ring which is especially strong in an Almace build.

The thing about the scenario that is weird is you talk about fighting hornflies to parse it for testing but what are you actually wanting to use this set to fight? brewing up specific builds for specific fights, especially solo, is great and I do it often but its hard to judge your set nor your testing procedure without knowing what you intend to use it for.
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