Limbus 2025
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Limbus 2025
Yes, I own the whole set 5/5. I am just trying to get second opinions on which job would it be BiS for.
For RDM Sworn Platemail is BiS in phalanx set, Sworn Platemail/Gauntlets/Sabatons paired with Nyame Helm/Flanchard path A in TP set, full Sworn set in ACC and Enspell damage set. Platemail/Gauntlets/Sabatons also BiS in cdc set and full set most likely BiS in fastblade II set.
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So it's only BiS for RDM really?
I am going to macro it in for Phalanx set for my RUN / PLD. Wasn't sure about BLU or DRK though. Asura.Hadroncollider said: » For RDM Sworn Platemail is BiS in phalanx set, Sworn Platemail/Gauntlets/Sabatons paired with Nyame Helm/Flanchard path A in TP set, full Sworn set in ACC and Enspell damage set. Platemail/Gauntlets/Sabatons also BiS in cdc set and full set most likely BiS in fastblade II set. I think you meant Nyame Feet path A for TP set? RDM needs Nyame pants path B for WS set. I think I might have missed it being said but does nq/hq/hq2 all have the same rank 30 augs?
So it seems. Making HQ2 sucker gear.
Go ahead pick up the NQ if you can find it or the +1 and in a year when the HQ2 is 10k cause no one will buy it, then get it. (I know, you think the 1 extra STR is worth 50 trillion dollars) Until someone confirms it, there is no way to know if the NQ goes up to R30. It could stop at R20 making it R20, R25, R30 for NQ, hq1 and hq2 respectively.
I doubt it from how augments on previous gear worked recently but does it matter?
In the end you'll imho want HQ2 99% of the time anyway so the time/gil investment into anything but HQ2 basically just piles on top of the HQ2 price. HQ2 has more of all the key stats, not just STR. More PDL, DA, STP, critrate. It's worth having and it'll never be 10k, even if the augments all go to r30(which is as yet unverified).
Not wrong that people who need to be first pay out the *** for the privilege, though. Shichishito said: » I doubt it from how augments on previous gear worked recently but does it matter? In the end you'll imho want HQ2 99% of the time anyway so the time/gil investment into anything but HQ2 basically just piles on top of the HQ2 price. You can pay 10m for +1 now and 100m for HQ2 in a year Or you can pay 500m for HQ2 now, and it be exactly the same but cost and extra 390m (1 dps woohoo!) I'd say the key stat is dt-. If you TP in 3/5 parts, you will have 3 or 6 less dt- wich is... not that great. Ideally you want to cap or be close to cap of dt- in your best TP set (wich pairs well the the extra +1 Phalanx you get from the set compared to oseem augments -.-). Also if you want to use it for enspell damage, you miss out on 75/150 dmg per corcea hit with composure up.
I just wanted to check if I can use the nq's on my alts. On main obviously hq 9000 or bust.
well... I dont think RDM "needs" Nyame Flanchard path B for WS sets.
The benefits of Nyame path A legs (on RDM) are in my opinion far higher than an extra 2-6k dmg on weaponskills you'll situationally use. 13 stp and 13% crit rate make easily up for the dmg you lose and add alot to solo fights/cdc. you also can reach a better hit build than with malignance armor, wich raises ws frequency and average overall dmg. So I don't know what other crafters experience (for the new limbus sets) is for +2 but so far I made 35 +1 0 +2
Edit: Up to 45 +1 0 +2 Asura.Hadroncollider said: » well... I dont think RDM "needs" Nyame Flanchard path B for WS sets. The benefits of Nyame path A legs (on RDM) are in my opinion far higher than an extra 2-6k dmg on weaponskills you'll situationally use. 13 stp and 13% crit rate make easily up for the dmg you lose and add alot to solo fights/cdc. you also can reach a better hit build than with malignance armor, wich raises ws frequency and average overall dmg. This is not true. You almost get nothing for WS frequency out of Nyame A legs and 13% critical hit rate on RDM is almost nothing too. Malignance legs TP and Nyame path B legs are higher DPS. Also Trust legs are better for TP anyway. Malignance legs are also easier to setup, because they have enough haste to cap without belt or earring.
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SimonSes said: » Asura.Hadroncollider said: » well... I dont think RDM "needs" Nyame Flanchard path B for WS sets. The benefits of Nyame path A legs (on RDM) are in my opinion far higher than an extra 2-6k dmg on weaponskills you'll situationally use. 13 stp and 13% crit rate make easily up for the dmg you lose and add alot to solo fights/cdc. you also can reach a better hit build than with malignance armor, wich raises ws frequency and average overall dmg. This is not true. You almost get nothing for WS frequency out of Nyame A legs and 13% critical hit rate on RDM is almost nothing too. Malignance legs TP and Nyame path B legs are higher DPS. Also Trust legs are better for TP anyway. Malignance legs are also easier to setup, because they have enough haste to cap without belt or earring. Fenrir.Ahlen said: » So I don't know what other crafters experience (for the new limbus sets) is for +2 but so far I made 35 +1 0 +2 Edit: Up to 45 +1 0 +2 I've posted my experience here before but yeah, it sucks. I believe that +2 are only on HQ3 results, so they're insanely rare. I don't see the prices falling any time soon. I'm currently 37 / 6 Asura.Hadroncollider said: » with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance. With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain?
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Asura.Hadroncollider said: » with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance. With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain? Not the guy you're replying to but I think i can help elucidate: Poor testing conditions.
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Asura.Hadroncollider said: » with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance. With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain?
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Found 2 ITG's in a Temenos climb, no ??? from either one.
 Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Asura.Hadroncollider said: » with a delay of 84.8 and 46% TA I throw a weaponskill after every 1-3 attack rounds. I did alot of testing on apex flys in crawlers nest and dps went up by 20% compared to malignance. With the previous RDM TP build (non-Limbus gear, Malignance 4/5 Bunzi head r30), this is pretty much how fast I gain TP. So explain to me how dropping 12% WSD results in a 20% dps gain? well, what gearsets actually use nyame legs path B on rdm? savage blade and black halo, atleast those are the only ones worth it besides maybe fully upgraded sortie weapons ws's. when is it worth using those 2 ws's? in party situations when your fully buffed and at attack cap (black halo) or not at attack cap because unga-bunga DD's need an accuracy song to be able to hit and Naeglings buff-attack bonus does the trick. Would I run a test soloing unbuffed with savage blade or black halo wich are weaponskills i use rather rarely? no. would I throw my best gear options defensive and offensive wise on those rare occations to do up to 6k more dame per ws? no. Is 27 STP less than 39 STP and makes a difference? yes. would I advice anyone doing what mostly only fits my playstyle wich is pretty self centered? not if you use rdm mostly in group content. Is there any reason to tell someone his opinion on how to gear for his playstyle is "not true" based on something they call "meta" and only covers 10% of the actual game for me and is best to use for multiboxers? I guess here it is. you might be able to count to 3, but no. your ws frequency will be lower with bunzi head and malignance and droping 12% wsd has no impact if you dont use a weaponskill that doesnt fully benefit from wsd. But the whole discussion is kinda obsolete at this point anyways, as everything might completly change. RDM/DRK seems to look interesting with the sworn set as you can almost reliably dish out 6-8 hit ws's without wasting any multihit on the offhand hit from dual wield in your 8-hit caped attack round. Yeah. I'm not doing this.
You be good bruh.
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So here’s a few observations regarding the "NM bar". That might have already been answered, just don’t recall reading it.
We were the only alliance (12-14/18) involved, so numbers are not diluted in multiple parties. - 4NM, that gave us about 10% each for a total of 40% - 3NM basement, that filled up about 50% each for a total of 1.9 bars, yes just short of 2 bars that’s why I choose 10% and 50% and not let’s say 12.5. The bar is readable but the point inside got to be in the 10’s of millions, so not quite precise. - RDM was far keeping the unicorn binded, far away, great job, but result of that is he didn’t his point until he/we noticed (bragging rights and him noticing no rights…)and came closer, so make sure to stay close by, like bind in the hallway. - we engage both NM close by, at the same time, so some peeps had hate tag on both, some didn’t, all got same amount of point but RDM issue. - yes WHM got same points, no job difference - open the chest afterwards even though we had 5/5 clear each tower, so 1 tower is at 6 chest now. Edit: read as "open a 6 chest for the week, not a raise cap, freebies" as nynja said. Phoenix.Gavroches said: » - open the chest afterwards even though we had 5/5 clear each tower, so 1 tower is at 6 chest now. Correct, I believe… nowhere did it said otherwise. I guess I could try to see if I can make new KI but doubt that.
Lines up pretty well with my post a few days ago:
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » Just killed all 3 of the T1 NMs in Apollyon. Our alliance did most, but not all, of the damage and we finished the data on most of our characters. Some notes: Takes about 10m HP of damage to get a full bar. This seems to be between 2-3 of the basement NMs' full HP bars, though YMMV depending how many people are there. You don't get credit while dead. Phoenix.Gavroches said: » Correct, I believe… nowhere did it said otherwise. I guess I could try to see if I can make new KI but doubt that.
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