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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-09-23 10:12:27
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Shiva.Myamoto said: »
I actively try to help kill NM's because they are semi more exciting than the climb
I think the fights are fun enough as well, but with there being no incentive for being the one responsible for killing the NMs, it's difficult to get anyone to care about fighting them.
I can tri-box most of them and always throw out a shout before I go take one down if I'm in the mood, but I almost never end up getting assistance from a random, and taking 30+ mins to tri-box them can get a bit exhausting, so I kind of stopped caring to fight them as well. I imagine we're guaranteed to see an update to the NM system next version update, so I can only hope most of peoples' problems with them are addressed.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-25 12:12:31
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Dodik said: »
Who's sick of doing climbs already.
I don't mind them, but it'd be more tolerable if a certain warp assistance didn't keep breaking for me.
you too??
I had it happen a few times and I can never replicate it. All I know is it breaks completely until I zone. Things I've tried:
reload the addon
port up manually
unload addon and port up manually then reload addon
So I was able to replicate it

Someone (not of my army) was porting up at the same time I was.


Couple things I noticed:
If I try to port up in this bad state, the addon wont detect I'm trying to port up. The first line was when I got bugged out. Lines 2 and 3 are me timing out and I then unloaded the addon. I reloaded the addon and tried again (line 4). Line 5 is timeout, line 6 is me doing //sw cancel. My retry is set to 6 times, so why it thinking theres no warp scheduled after one retry?

I'm able to fix the issue by zoning to Al'Taieu and back.
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By Tokimemofan 2025-09-25 13:39:57
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So for those who attempt to low man these NMs be careful with your debuffs. Just got off a 3 hour long battle with the BLU in Apollyon and after a while it flat out resisted silence and eventually bind. I even wasted a stymie on a silence that wore instantly. BLU certainly lives up to its reputation for being the ultimate screw you humanoid nm job.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-25 13:41:50
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Was this observed during a sustained engagement or was this an engagement where hate was lost due to wipe / unclaimed period?
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By Dodik 2025-09-25 14:24:34
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Tokimemofan said: »
3 hour long battle

But why. You must hate having free time.
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By SimonSes 2025-09-25 14:35:45
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Tokimemofan said: »
So for those who attempt to low man these NMs be careful with your debuffs. Just got off a 3 hour long battle with the BLU in Apollyon and after a while it flat out resisted silence and eventually bind. I even wasted a stymie on a silence that wore instantly. BLU certainly lives up to its reputation for being the ultimate screw you humanoid nm job.

I 6 boxed BLU in like 10 min.
SV 2x mambo, honor, minuet, minuet
Geo Fade (Fend is probably good too or better)
Indi-Fury
Chaos+Samurai
WAR BLU WHM GEO BRD COR
Mighty Guard

I had no RDM, so didn't even bother trying to silence it, I just cured through (helping WHM with White Wind on BLU). WAR died eventually from some unlucky WS connecting some hits right after one of BLU AoEs, but they are not exactly top tiered chars, so WAR had mostly r0 sakpata and WSing in 3 JSE WSD pieces, so not PDT capped during WS. I haven't bothered, but when it spams AoE after using Azure Lore, you can easily kite it if you have place, because it will start casting at max range, so you only need to do few steps away to stop it.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-25 14:44:06
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So far this week in Temenos for Matter
1/12

I think I'm 4/30 including last week
inb4: you woulda gone 6/6 on those last two runs you didnt do last week

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By fractalvoid 2025-09-25 15:56:12
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i did a WAR in temenos last night with DRK/COR/BRD/GEO/WHM.

needed 2 eva songs, indi-slip+geo voidance, and NIN roll and then it just constantly whiffed. before we got the buffs right i got destoyed a few times... whm got blasted for >5k.

not sure if my DRK buddy used Blind or not but assuming not, otherwise would prob just drop the NIN roll.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-25 17:45:32
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Updated kill counts per pt size, and some bad news

pt size of 15 kill counts:

Teme NEW: 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, clear
Teme C: 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, 36, 42, 48, 54, 60, 66, 72, 78, 84, 90, 96, clear (17 mobs)

Apy Nx: 7 15 22 30 37 45 52 60 67 75 82 90 97 clear (14 mobs)
Apy Sx: 6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54 60 66 72 78 84 90 96 clear (17 mobs)

3/6 on Matter in Apy


Bad news:
Kill counts are based on PT size, not where they are (within the zone I presume). I afked in lobby to run some errands quickly, my friends got started on a wing, "I'll catch up" I thought, except they took the full kills as if there were 15 people on the floor. Not sure if this was known to act this way.
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By Tokimemofan 2025-09-25 22:33:33
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Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
Was this observed during a sustained engagement or was this an engagement where hate was lost due to wipe / unclaimed period?
We actually left the zone entirely and let it go unclaimed while we regrouped and did a /yell. The resistance built never wore off. It took a while to build though. The main issue we had early on was lacking some needed jobs to kill it fast since several NMs were up at once, most of the group I joined at the NIN fight went to go to fight the BLM and then never came back to deal with the BLU.

In a properly coordinated kill the resistance should never build enough to matter but I can definitely see this being a serious problem on smaller servers if someone tries to lowman it and gives up after debuffs stop working. In the last minutes of the fight Paralysis was starting to drop significantly in duration as was frazzle and distract.
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By fractalvoid 2025-09-26 02:32:23
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DNC NM in Temenos was able to be 5manned, same setup as last night.

1/3 on matters tonight. My main now hasn't gotten any since the first in Temenos

I show 7m HP total on the NMs as well - kinda wild. Really interested to see what else is coming to make these less of a pain to reliably fight. It is noticeable when SV mambos drop for sure. Gonna be real sad if it's just more graces and not actual good gear
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By Phoenix.Gavroches 2025-09-27 06:12:12
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Not sure if something got stated before, but got RP 4 and it cost 3800 units. That cost is increasing incredibly fast.
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 06:17:17
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
got RP 4

Most people won't get enough matters for the RP cost to get that high (without "revisions").

I've been having to upgrade random relic gear on hardly played jobs cause always capped on points.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-27 06:21:37
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
Not sure if something got stated before, but got RP 4 and it cost 3800 units. That cost is increasing incredibly fast.
The cost of each and every upgrade for those limbus items has been posted here and you can find it on BGwiki.

It's around 600k RP to go from 0 to 30, just so you know.


I seriously doubt they will adjust the amount of RP required BUT I can see them slightly adjusting the drop rate of Matter and also eventually the amount of points you get from full climbs will go up, if nothing from raising the level, because we all know 140 is comin next, right?
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By Phoenix.Gavroches 2025-09-27 07:47:49
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Thank you for the answer, I did try to look it up before my post and after your comment, and no I cannot find where it is. It’s not under limbus, murky ring or earring, not under RP, nor temenos furnace. So please enlight me where to find it.
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By K123 2025-09-27 11:22:47
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
Not sure if something got stated before, but got RP 4 and it cost 3800 units. That cost is increasing incredibly fast.
The cost of each and every upgrade for those limbus items has been posted here and you can find it on BGwiki.

It's around 600k RP to go from 0 to 30, just so you know.


I seriously doubt they will adjust the amount of RP required BUT I can see them slightly adjusting the drop rate of Matter and also eventually the amount of points you get from full climbs will go up, if nothing from raising the level, because we all know 140 is comin next, right?
If they do and +5 comes they better not use the same points
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By Nariont 2025-09-27 11:26:57
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K123 said: »
If they do and +5 comes they better not use the same points

You know they will, limbus til 2030 buddy
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By K123 2025-09-27 12:55:12
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Nariont said: »
K123 said: »
If they do and +5 comes they better not use the same points

You know they will, limbus til 2030 buddy
Would be well beyond that if it's 7* points like Sortie
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By K123 2025-09-27 12:58:43
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Thinking about Limbus having difficulty levels, and Odyssey bosses to too, it feels like Sortie could have had the same - not a harder level like that bs that it originally had, but a lower level version for noobs where everything gives half as much galli and all drop rates are halved. Maybe level 128 or so? Guessing normal level is 145 in basements?
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By Nariont 2025-09-27 13:05:07
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That's kind of what is already there, with upstairs bosses scaling up in difficulty and then increasing further in the basement, wings themselves are also different ilvls. Only thing that it would really help would be getting aminon access i guess? And if you can get to aminon then you should be able to do the other bosses in heir current form too.
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By K123 2025-09-27 13:08:16
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Nariont said: »
That's kind of what is already there, with upstairs bosses scaling up in difficulty and then increasing further in the basement, wings themselves are also different ilvls. Only thing that it would really help would be getting aminon access i guess? And if you can get to aminon then you should be able to do the other bosses in heir current form too.
Nah, I mean for really filthy casuals that even AECG is hard for.
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By Nariont 2025-09-27 13:16:43
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A wing is already 119~121, so A boss is likely in the 125~128 range, the "casual" route is just doing the side objectives for a lower chance at stones/lower galli overall. It'd maybe make things better for people soloing but if everything was halved then im not so sure.

Core thing is just to group up and figure out what works, wanna say just about any comp within reason can do atleast A/E
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 13:40:22
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Yeah, the bosses already scale up in levels from A-H.

You can see that pretty easily from accuracy requirements and macc requirements.

Before eventual gear/method creep, everyone was just soloing/low-personing upstairs bosses. Then A-E. Then E-G and so forth.
By fractalvoid 2025-09-27 13:52:42
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
Thank you for the answer, I did try to look it up before my post and after your comment, and no I cannot find where it is. It’s not under limbus, murky ring or earring, not under RP, nor temenos furnace. So please enlight me where to find it.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58628/augment-tables-for-limbus-gear-r1-to-30/3/#3762589
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-27 14:18:26
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
Thank you for the answer, I did try to look it up before my post and after your comment, and no I cannot find where it is. It’s not under limbus, murky ring or earring, not under RP, nor temenos furnace. So please enlight me where to find it.
It's been posted in multiple threads, but I think the original one was this one


edit:
Eeeeh nvm didn't see the post above mine, sorry!
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By Phoenix.Amarok 2025-09-27 16:49:12
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Went all out this week with NM kills on our server (Phoenix) and just killed off NM no. 44 before the reset tomorrow. No idea if it's going to really make a difference on the matter drop rate but it was fun (at least at times).

We killed all 8 Monday to Friday, and then only 2 in each zone popped today, making 44 total. At times I didn't think it was going to be possible but stuck at it with server yells. I don't think I'll be pushing for that again, just wanted to see if we could do it this once.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-27 17:08:20
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Anything less a 100% drop rate on matter next week for killing all 44 NMs is a travesty
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By Phoenix.Amarok 2025-09-28 11:55:16
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Well, opened 8 boxes across 2 chars, got 1/8 matter, horseshit
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-09-28 12:01:17
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Oof
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-28 12:14:19
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