Asura.Wotasu said: »
??? for 3000 units on Asura and Temenos is/was East Floor 2 Gigas Room
Still there in Asura, thanks. So you can get 3k in Apollyon and 3k in Temenos once per week?
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Still there in Asura, thanks. So you can get 3k in Apollyon and 3k in Temenos once per week? Odin.Naytan said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Bahamut.Raineer said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Do we know what the graces do? I have Angelic Grace so far. They are documented in the original SE post: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62862-June-10-2025-%28JST%29-Version-Update?p=667175&viewfull=1#post667175  Umm we know that. I'm talking about if we know the values and such.  We're getting that one tonight, the other one just said BPALL+6, I kinda figured it was base stats but was checking to see if anyone else had anything. Do the other servers all have that same value? The chests are probably just random
I was going back and forth between the zones each run today 5000 from Apollyon 3000 from Temenos On my last few runs Got Angelic Grace tonight in a 5k chest in Apollyon.
BPALL+5 right off the bat. LS members ideas on what BP stands for ranged from, "*** Please" to "Base Parameters." Bucket Popcorn My first 5k chest out of 4 total chests so far. 2 Temenos. 2 Apollyon. Kind of wonder if it relates to being a party leader. First time I've opened the box as one.
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Dodik said: » Unlike vorseals, number of chests opened is counted server wide, not just your own. So you unlock access to the buffs on second clear, but then the level of the buff power depends on how many people have been opening the box in total? Asura.Saevel said: » Asura.Sechs said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week. Seems to me for the time being people aren't particularly interested in Limbus. Which on one hand is good because the zone is not overly laggy (it would be, given the Asura total population!), on the other hand it's proven a bit tricky to set up PUGs, people just don't caught up with this content for now. IDK I've seen at on of people doing it right now. It's just not very mercable, or they haven't figured out how to exploit it yet, so all those bot armies your used to seeing aren't around. If you go into either zones it's full of soloists or small groups doing tower runs. No punishment or daily restriction means on FOMO or need to do it at exact times, so people being mega casual about it. Similar to abyssea vibe from back in the day. 0 item drops, mass linking and aggro in Tem, needing to touch the next floor manually to advance (no afk). All of these contribute to making it harder to merc. I can’t really see this being merc content. It seems catered around returning players — which is good! Also you get about 6k Capacity points per mob kill at lvl 119. So that’s really nice! (Was at 200 job points during test.)
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I'm no sure why people think Tomahawk completely removes DT in any case.
It's very clearly written what it does. With 5 merits and feet, it removes 30% of DT, so in Limbus it should lower DT from 50% to 35%. Bahamut.Senaki said: » So you unlock access to the buffs on second clear, but then the level of the buff power depends on how many people have been opening the box in total? Yes. Buffs are the same for everyone on server once you get them. Anyone mind to share what they doing/heading to farm that efficiently?
For our first run, with 2 alts, we did tank 2 DD and SCH BRD COR, don’t think it took us much more than an hour after misc breaks and loss of time for no reason. Personally, I think it will evolve into 3 DD, tank healer and about a 45 minutes run. SimonSes said: » I'm no sure why people think Tomahawk completely removes DT in any case. It's very clearly written what it does. With 5 merits and feet, it removes 30% of DT, so in Limbus it should lower DT from 50% to 35%. I don't think it even works on flat PDT or DT? I thought it was only on special defense, like specific resistances such as resistance to blunt or a certain of element. Phoenix.Gavroches said: » Anyone mind to share what they doing/heading to farm that efficiently? For our first run, with 2 alts, we did tank 2 DD and SCH BRD COR, don’t think it took us much more than an hour after misc breaks and loss of time for no reason. Personally, I think it will evolve into 3 DD, tank healer and about a 45 minutes run. Phoenix.Gavroches said: » Personally, I think it will evolve into 3 DD, tank healer and about a 45 minutes run. Yesterday with a party of 5 people (MNK, BLU, PUP, WHM and BRD) it took us like, what, 1h and 20 to do all Apollyon at 130? Maybe a bit less. I need to count how many points we got but I think it's something like 6k? Considering the 3k from the final chest. It's... I dunno, it's a bit too much grind imho. Even at 45 mins, the amount of time required to reach the weekly 50k is intense, and that's only one zone. Double up that for Temenos, actually more because Clearly Temenos is much more annoying and longer to do than Apollyon. Add to this that the upgrades are surely nice but not exactly OMAGAH and this makes me a bit perplexed. If THIS is the amount of grind required for those modest +4 upgrades, what the *** are they ever going to demand for the +5, in case it's coming? (again: I wouldn't take that for granted). I assume that the NMs added in the future will make farming faster, but it's gotta be MUCH faster to make it worth so much time, imho. I don't know what to say, I see potential in this event and I'm happy for many aspects, but I don't think they nailed it, yet.
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Apollyon is easy as hell, even at 130 solo. Plenty of mobs to solo pull in all areas and not much in the way of true sight enemies (imps, etc). The enemies tend to be annoying ones but one at a time anything is manageable. You actually gain decent solo EP here, so I foresee this as an option for soloers just picking a floor they like and using it to grind. That being said, man it is extremely boring. I really can't see myself doing a full clear solo more than once or twice a month.
Temenos is much more difficult. I may have to swap down to 119 just to get a full clear solo to get the KI for upgrading because there are a lot more enemies and they respawn much faster. Many floors don't have any "safe" places to solo pull. Single enemies tend to be squishier than Apollyon but you are almost always fighting more than one at a time. All of this is MNK/WAR ML30 using AAEV / Arciela / Joachim. Red Curry Bun and 2K Shijin > VS > VS. I had similar kill speed on my WAR but took a lot more damage in return.
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Carbuncle.Slib said: » SimonSes said: » I'm no sure why people think Tomahawk completely removes DT in any case. It's very clearly written what it does. With 5 merits and feet, it removes 30% of DT, so in Limbus it should lower DT from 50% to 35%. I don't think it even works on flat PDT or DT? I thought it was only on special defense, like specific resistances such as resistance to blunt or a certain of element. It reduces SDT by 25%, and these mobs all have 50% SDT. 50 * 0.75 = 37.5% SDT remaining which aligns to what we have seen. It's only in the Vengeance Gaol fights that it seems to act weird. Phoenix.Gavroches said: » Anyone mind to share what they doing/heading to farm that efficiently? For our first run, with 2 alts, we did tank 2 DD and SCH BRD COR, don’t think it took us much more than an hour after misc breaks and loss of time for no reason. Personally, I think it will evolve into 3 DD, tank healer and about a 45 minutes run. We've been doing 3DD BRD COR and WHM. Usual songs / rolls and just run from start to end, sleep + hulk smash the train, then go up. Worked great everywhere except Central Tenemos, that place is so large with very few safe spots that you end up having to be a lot more careful.
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 Banish 3 helps a ton in Apollyon, But they're undead so it should. Didnt always land tho, some resist happens.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: » I wouldnt be surprised if the one in temenos was broken OR it pops up randomly when one specific mob dies. Considering the temenos layout compared to apollyon, that would explain why there are less reports of it in Temenos. Temenos has one direct route between portals with mobs in separate groups, whereas in Apollyon you can fan out between portals and the mobs are all over the place. There were also people who went in both zones and did some packet tomfoolery and deduced the ??? wasnt up in either zone after maint. Any reason to dispute this theory so far that the ??? drops randomly from one mob and stays up for the week? Anecdotally, I was fighting some ***in Apollyon and then after killing like 10 enemies, I noticed the ??? on the ground next to me. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know if it's was there when I got there or spawned while I was fighting, but it was definitely RIGHT in my camp, which was in a pretty random, shitty place on the side of one of the floors.
I went again today into Apollyon for another climb and when tried to click on the shiny ??? it gave me message "Nothing out of the ordinary here". On my first climb I clicked it and gave me the points but not this time. Does anyone know if this is a 1 per week thing or anything? Previous run was 48hrs ago.
Cerberus.Josafath said: » I went again today into Apollyon for another climb and when tried to click on the shiny ??? it gave me message "Nothing out of the ordinary here". On my first climb I clicked it and gave me the points but not this time. Does anyone know if this is a 1 per week thing or anything? Previous run was 48hrs ago. Hey man, The assumption is once a week. We will know for sure Sunday. So the ??? Is server based?
And we are assuming it changes weekly? Is this where we are at currently? Shockwave has been very effective in Tenemos. Shockwave the group, kill 4, go to exit. Works well solo or in a group.
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Phoenix.Gavroches said: » Anyone mind to share what they doing/heading to farm that efficiently? Solo I've only done Apollyon wings on 130 as DRK/SAM ML33, Prime-4 Scythe. King of Hearts/Sylvie (UC)/Ulmia. Pull with absorb spells (INT/STR/DEX etc, they land on everything except maybe Imps) prep Darkness SC, Burst Drain 3, Dread Spikes (everything in Apollyon has at least a 50% darkness resistance, but it still helps), then 3-step everything. Mobs die in 3 WS/SCs. If i'm paying attention, one floor takes about 5 minutes, so around 20 minutes for a wing. When I get to undead floor, I switch out to Caladbolg instead. Absorb-Attr any self-buffs (Cocoon, Rhino Guard, Sharp Spikes, Ice/Blaze Spikes) is a fun buff-steal. Absorb-TP is a fast refill if timed properly. Very chill non-daily progress killing content that I don't really mind doing for now Yes, it's kind of boring, but I usually do it while running something else at the same time (podcast, music, running work reports, etc). I enjoy it.
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