June 2025 Version Update

How much do you expect the items to change from +4 to +5 given the change from +3 to +4.

Why else would they add an NM system?

Per week doesn't matter when you lose points when you get kicked out?

I'm just gonna say it:

These data mining threads are bad, posting every single piece of gear in a patch is bad. One of the things XI endgame players like to do is figure this stuff out and post the loot, and people posting pictures etc. When you make a data mining thread and just do it with tools outside of the game, you're robbing the community of finding the stuff out naturally over the coming days.

Someone like Velner, or whoever should be posting pics. Not someone with dat mining tools.

This is like having a scavenger event, and someone comes along and posts everything in all the chest an hour after it's announced and before anyone even put their shoes on to go hunt.

Something people always complain about is "the game is already solved!" etc, that's what this is. This is why devs of games normally find ways to stop players doing this stuff, and they are probably doing it here too by staggering the quality of the rewards based on NM kills too. In effect the reason the gear has no stats, is cause they know you're gonna do it and they want to hide it for a while.

At the very least, stuff like this should wait a few days before posting everything new in the patches. This instant desire to solve everything and post everything without even stepping foot into the game, with outside tools is not a positive thing when it's done to this level over and over. Most people who even say they want this and read it, don't really want it cause it's ruining the fun of finding the stuff out naturally over the coming days.

There is no mystery to anything, cause you're so fixated with exposing everything there is within 2 hours of the patch dropping. As I said, most people will say they want it and be mad I'm saying this but it's still ruining any new content added to the game.

Two things wrong with that assumption.

• You don't get kicked out. There's no timer or arbitrary reason to leave if you don't want to.

• You don't lose units(upgrade currency) when leaving, just temp KI progress.

I'm just gonna say it:

I know what it is, I'm talking to Funk. I'm asking him to have some self control and wait a couple of days, so others can try figure stuff out and these kinds of threads are enjoyable for the community. Let other people have some glory.

Instead of him telling everything with tools day 1.

It does not matter if I or someone else doesn't click the thread (for the record this stuff doesn't bother me, but I know this kind of secret and mystery is fun to others), it's no longer a mystery for the community (and I know a lot of people like that) and that is robbing some fun from the everyone so one person working on a wiki can get the dopamine hit. Which is exactly what it is btw, i know how wiki people minds work.

I know what it is, I'm talking to Funk. I'm asking him to have some self control and wait a couple of days, so others can try figure stuff out and these kinds of threads are enjoyable for the community. Let other people have some glory.

Instead of him telling everything with tools day 1, he isn't even figuring this stuff out by playing as everyone else does. He is just using tools.

It does not matter if I or someone else doesn't click the thread (for the record this stuff doesn't bother me, but I know this kind of secret and mystery is fun to others), it's no longer a mystery for the community and that is robbing some fun from the everyone so one person working on a wiki can get the dopamine hit. Which is exactly what it is btw, i know how wiki people minds work.

He should not spoil the thread, he should just wait a few days instead. Have some patience, and let others have some fun with it.

He knows full well people enjoy finding this stuff out, he just has wiki mind and ruins everything instantly. He knows many people who complain about how everything being solved and keeps on doing it, they ruin it for themselves and are disappointed because they lack self control to not click it.

I've done this in the past, but at least I try to stop myself doing it all the time cause I know it's a bad thing for the community.

+5 isn't confirmed though. This might be it.

+5 isn't confirmed though. This might be it.

We might get +5, or some other way to Augment. But even if we don't the upgrade process is way too easy to justify the kind of massive upgrades people seem to want here.

I've seen posts of people who apparently hoped we were going to get Odyssey-tier equipment which is genuinely insane. That's leaving aside the fact that most Artifact and Relic will always have a place in gearsets due to their unique benefits anyway.