June 2025 Version Update

It's not lying, it's just tweaking the numbers a little, perfectly normal and has never lead to anything negative happening down the road

Nothing there answers this statement


Sorties a shitty event thats 50% running around. The fact someone can bump an 85k run to an alleged 135k (this seems exaggerated but who knows) simply by cheating to eliminate the time spent running around is testament to this.

Oh this?

This is the flaw???

You mean the starstones and sapphires that everyone had so many of and no one had any idea what to do with so SE made them NPCable? Thats the so called flaw???

Can't lie about subscriber numbers, it shows up in revenue.

Banned accounts make no revenue and can be made up.

wasn't about subscribers, was about daily logins.

And all those perfect auged +2 earrings.

BTW star stones are a real issue when soloing, in particular if you can't do dhartok yet, once you do drops are somewhat catching up but still still occasionally see galli 80k+ and waiting for starstones.

Daily logins dont matter.

Management will equate/extrapolate daily logins to subscriber numbers.

It's just management BS in order to keep the XI cost center alive (budget).

Once again
Daily logins dont matter

Every subscription you pay for doesnt give a ***how often you use it, they care about the dollars that roll in monthly. If you pay for Youtube Premium and use it zero times in a month, Youtube isnt gonna email you and be like "hey, I notice you didnt use your Youtube premium". Netflix isnt gonna say "hey, we noticed you didnt watch anything this month". Your phone provider isnt gonna say "hey we noticed youre paying extra for long distance but didnt call anyone long distance this month".

The only thing SE cares about is how many people with FFXI subscriptions paid their $12.95 that month.

You really don't think it would affect you only getting 1/3 the sapphire/starstones, 1/3 the cases and 1/3 the -drites? I mean if it's a choice then that's fine because you can make your decision, but that's not something I'd choose because I don't think the tradeoff is worth it.

Sortie x3 points. 60 hour lockout. Sortie RoE Monthly.

Is there a reason the White and Black Cards were not updated in Wiki to Permanent Key Items instead of Temporary?

Update it then

Sorties been out for well over 2 yrs now, hows your ear+2 collection with the 20 hour daily lockout?

“Flawed” lol
Your earring collection sucks with the current system.


Whats “flawed” is the piss poor earring system and that joke of one-time RoEs they implemented

You have me confused with someone who cares about earrings. That said, just because I don't care doesn't mean other people don't...

I count at least a few people who seem to care.


1/3 less drops is 1/3 less drops. Even if you remove earrings from consideration, this has an impact on both your armor upgrades and your prime upgrades, which are the actual point of being in the content in the first place...

Someone who does sortie 4-7x a week isnt struggling for sapphires or starstones or hedrites.

The people who go 0-2x a week that need these items are still gonna go 0-2x a week

So the people who go 4+ times a week will see less NPCable fodder and the people who go 0-2 times a week will see no change to their stone supply. The earring system is *** trash and this change will change a shitty system to a very marginally shittier system.

They aren't struggling for galli either.

Hello everyone.

Apologies for not following up on my original post, as after posting it I received quite a few messages ranging from very nice people asking nicely to very angry people asking very angrily to take it down and not talk about it any further with anyone on this site in broad daylight.

However, my sub has expired and since I already concluded all my research/experimentation with Sortie awhile ago, as well as got to learn and experience everything I wanted to in the game, perhaps it might be ok to expand a bit on it and maybe clear up some misconceptions. It's the least I can do in return for all the knowledge everyone has shared here, which I am incredibly grateful for, as I would have never been able to get as far as I did without everyone's help.

Sorry for the misconception, but yes, this is not "legit". It is exploiting a bug I discovered within Sortie around December-January, and was running daily getting about 110k~120k until I quit last month. The limit I came to was 130k, and even that is quite bleeding edge and requires a fair amount of execution (at least for an old boomer like me).

But yeah, to those who were discussing why someone would do this, I guess the issue was that it was all predicated upon the assumption that the person was invested in their account to begin with, which I supposed I am a bit of an anomaly. I never was attached to or invested in my account, nor did I ever play for any material reasons (aside from allowing me to experience more of the game).

I never had any interest in any of the Prime weapons, and I already got all my AF3 a long time ago just doing plain old 8/8 runs. The truth is I just really enjoy the process of exploring, experimenting, and seeing how far I could push things using all the tools I have available to me. That's why I did it, because THAT is what I genuinely enjoy-- taking games apart, turning them inside out, and just poking around places people don't usually venture out into.

For me, THAT is how I define fun, and that's what it was for me, an adventure. And an adventure it was! I enjoyed my time with Sortie, but as I am not a fan of mindless repetition without any potential for imagination, there isn't any reason for me to spend time there anymore farming monopoly money/items. Also, I personally find Sortie (at least doing it legit) terribly dreadful and am not convinced anyone genuinely finds doing that engaging or interesting without having some sort of flimsy artificial carrot stick material gain pushing them to do it, but that's just from the perspective of someone who hasn't committed decades of my life to sitting in this game, so I don't have any sentimental attachment to it, i'm just a tourist I guess.

I am aware this isn't really a conventional perspective to how people should treat and enjoy the game, and that's okay. I apologize if it angered anyone, and I did not mean to come off as comparing myself or what I have done to anyone else with the intention of looking down on anyone, since the only person I compare myself to is the person I was yesterday.

In any case, since I am a fan of sharing knowledge and not some greedy dude who would form a funny elite cabal with his friends and gatekeep this knowledge till the end of time, and would like to give back to the community for all the knowledge they have shared with me that made this possible in the first place, I actually made a full writeup on how the bug works and my 130k route that I was going to share for anyone who is interested. The issue is I have been cautioned by many both nicely and not so nicely to never release it, so I am not sure if/when I will ever release this, or if it will even have any value to anyone in the grand scheme of things.

Perhaps someday I will release it, but at least for now it seems like there isn't a way to really share my findings without everything exploding. Maybe someday!

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk and have a nice day!

TL;DR: I bragged with a lie and I am getting out of it by taking the moral high ground.

"I'm gonna share my knowlege"

Shares 0 Knowledge... what a moron lol. In before everyone /rolls their eyes again knowing your just warping around the map abusing the most egregious tools on the market.

If you had come back and shared some bug or non-tool related discovery, then that'd have been interesting. But if not, why come back at all to just broadcast yourself again? "GUYS I GOT 200 million Galli in 3 months! One day I'll come clean with my secrets, I promise. It's totally cool"

@Sepo if you tell me your strategy, I will tell you how to unlock the secret Stage 6 primes that nobody has seen yet. I haven't even equipped them yet for fear that someone will find out.

I think you are REALLY misreading the room here. People weren't angry at you...I think the general feeling was bemusement, disbelief, and unimpressed.

I have no idea how to read your post because it's total nonsense.

Here are my questions: were you doing these 120k runs solo, or with a party? What did you kill to get these points? I don't think there are problems giving away your "glitch" by answering these questions, though I'm also not certain it will matter.


No ***, everyone knew that the second you made these claims. Did you somehow believe people thought it was legit?


LOL. Nice self-jerk off. I'm sure while cheating 6 ways from Sunday, your execution is the key to victory.


I have no idea what you mean by "no potential for imagination." Sortie is a completely open sandbox with seemingly infinite space for imagination. You couldn't have picked a worse bit of content to make complaints about creativity or imagination.


I think it is really hilarious how you say that your way of playing the game is super unique and people just need to accept that, then turn around and criticize the way other people play the game and talk about how you can't possibly imagine how they could enjoy it.

I'm also curious how you managed to have such a badass character (or 6) to be able to accomplish such incredible feats without dedicating large amounts of time to the game. You say you're just a tourist and you've barely committed to your character(s)...?


This just sounds like you're trying to take shots at someone while pretending to be talking about yourself, TBH.


Honestly: All your posts read as someone who has a vendetta against FFXI, the community, the event, or all of the above. It reads like you're bitter and angry and then decided the way to "get back at" the game/content/people who wronged you was to make up some *** and talk about how great you are and how dumb SE/the community are. Nothing you say sounds even remotely credible, it sounds like a *** fantasy tale you spun to try to push an agenda.

I don't believe a single word you've said, I think it's all made up out of whole cloth. I think this BS about "cautioning you not to release it" is further BS. What could you, a person who said they don't care about their FFXI character and aren't subscribed and clearly doesn't give the first ***about the community, possibly have to lose if you do something counter to the opinions of these people who "cautioned you"?

You write a nice, but extremely infantile, fanfiction. Your talents would be better served working in the Twilight community, IMO.

If he knows then logically at least 5 other people know. The chances of it not being shared already are extremely slim if it existed, which it doesn't.

I bet Aragan knows the secret. He knows all secrets in FFXI.

This thread needs more Aragan.

I can tell you the secret for the 120k Galli glitch.
In return I want to leech an Mboze V25, Xevioso V25 and Arebati V25 wins.
ktnxbai.

I can empathize, you've got this cool trick that you can't share with the class, but I can't imagine any good would come from making an exploit this big public knowledge here, unless you were looking to have SE respond and fix it. I think some of the popular windower and ashita people have done just that in the past, which is commendable. if you went this route, then perhaps you could maintain bragging rights AND give back to the community at the same time!

@Maletaru I disagree, there is a huge fight club mentality in FFXI, always has been with regard to cheating in endgame. We all just play nice and don't name bot names here or provide information on how to abuse them, but we all know they are widely used everywhere, all the time. I can't verify his gallantry numbers, but have no reason to believe you couldn't do something like find a way to respawn bosses or something to get those numbers.

That's what I was imagining at least in terms of how it would play out. It would likely just end up having SE respond, and people have also informed me that it would likely draw attention to others who do not want any attention. So as much as I want to share it as I found it pretty cool (morality aside), my intentions for releasing it were to help people, not harm them. So in the end, you can likely imagine the dilemma I found myself in with this.

As far as it being not real goes, it's a bit surprising that people would think that. I'd have to agree with Thorny earlier in this thread that it really ended up being a somewhat marginal increase (at least personally imo, maybe there is someone out there smarter than me who could figure out how to push even further to 140k maybe? I don't see it happening though personally and spent months theorycrafting and testing a bunch of different routes and comps). If it was something crazy like 300k-400k, then maybe I could see the skepticism, but even before this when I was doing legit 9-boss runs you can typically already reach up to 85-90k without that much sweat. I don't really think 130k is that crazy to the point where people think it isn't even possible, but maybe that's just me. People are free to believe what they want to believe.

I'd tell you how I do my super secret special sauce but you see, is secret.

Only Susurooon know I mean only super special player know.

Unless your going to actually explain what your doing, whether its Tako, Superwarp, some warp exploit, some bug that forces/allows repeat bosses, whatever...

If you're not going to explain ANYTHING your claims are completely baseless, your just farting in the wind with some imaginary # that's not obtainable, by any stretch of the imagination, and its plain to see to anyone who has any reasonable amount of time in the content.

Post something of substance if you're going to make such brazen, nonsensical claims to an audience of people who take the content seriously

You're just going to continue to post these wall of text diatribe nothing burgers, that in summary amount to :
-I'm really cool, I make a big number, no one else can
-It's big secret, I cant share, cuz reasons
-It's cheat, but I cant say what Cheat, It will fix
-Oh but also i'm unsubbed, "Finished my research", and dont plan to do anymore
-My intentions are good, and Im only releasing the info to help, BUT in the same breath i'm not releasing ANYTHING

If that's all you have for us, then kindly just keep your *** to yourself. No one is interested in someone telling playground stories about the time they saw bigfoot and played kickball with him, but he only comes out when only you're there. Get your head out of your *** please.

130k is absolutely crazy if you have ANY concept of how the content functioned, and what its reward structure was. Your posts simply make you come across as a gigantic Liar, Fool, and Pompous ***.

Go back to being gone

But yeah, in the end I made the follow-up post because i've just been on the fence about what I should do with it. I just don't think this is something that should be carelessly dropped into the world without some serious deliberation about the people involved.

I don't really know anyone deeply on this game and have primarily been communicating with people in the more shady parts of the community, so I don't really know anyone here or how they would react. I've been told repeatedly not to engage with people here and have been given some pretty grim images, which I didn't really think was true given all the knowledge people have contributed.

But the reality seems like only one person (?) was able to approach my situation with a bit of empathy, so forgive me if my idea that discussing it with you guys would potentially make me feel more inclined to share it. To be honest, I observed way more empathy and calmheaded-ness underground from all those lowlife scoundrels. I thought you people were supposed to be the good guys? Those pitchforks look pretty sharp though.

Regardless, despite the not so kind reception, I'm still not 100% opposed to the idea of sharing it. I guess I just have to think on this a awhile longer.

Thank you all for your input though, I genuinely appreciate it.

There's no way to gain an extra 40k unless you somehow respawn bosses