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By Dodik 2025-05-24 15:17:26
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
i.e. Artifacts take ~8min to craft, Relic takes ~16min, varies with piece and number of materials used. In that timeframe, get ready to protect your gear by fighting off waves of mobs xD

I'd hit it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-24 15:19:00
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"Your synthesis was interrupted and you lost your crafting materials. You have 5 minutes to procure more materials before the crafting process has been completed"
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By Dodik 2025-05-24 15:43:50
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Ok FU you shouldn't design games. I want SE.. No wait.
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By Valefor.Aspens 2025-05-24 17:18:37
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Ridiculously enhances effects of rice balls

You heard it here first
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-05-24 18:50:49
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If this is how we get Synergy to 110 I'm here for it
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-05-24 18:54:26
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Thinking about DNC AF/Relic...

AF is used for JA enhancement and extreme Acc builds for Steps.

* Maxixi Head +3 - Step and Samba macro; has DW and Samba duration hasn't increased since +1
* Maxixi Body +3 - Waltz
* Maxixi Hands +3 - WSD and Step, although if you have Nyame B you'd probably use those for WSD.
* Maxixi Legs +3 - Not useful right now
* Maxixi Feet +3 - Waltz and Jig (caps Jig alone)


Relic is used for its augments and a random stat here or there

* Horos Head +3 - Trance and Waltz
* Horos Body +3 - Violent Flourish, NFR, and arguably WS
* Horos Hands +3 - Enmity and Fan Dance (but not because you should only have 1 merit in it) - Not useful right now
* Horos Legs +3 - Jig, WSD, (and Saber Dance enhancement, but they aren't good enough for it to be worth TPing in). Arguably you should use Nyame B if you have it. (Caps Jig alone)
* Horos Feet +3 - Steps other than Feather Step, and for a TP build under specific conditions.


The problem Relic + AF have together is that it's too easy to cap three of the things they enhance (Jig, Waltz, and arguably Step Acc), so incremental improvements to them won't matter. I say Step Acc because there's no real point in having a step acc build that's more than ~80 acc higher than your acc tp set. If you need 200 Acc and land steps and cap quickstep's -44 evasion, then you're still screwed for that fight. Presto gives a 50 Step Acc boost by itself and the AF/Relic +3 pieces already give +99 Step Acc, so more Step Acc isn't going to help. AF+Relic with Etoile neck +2 have you at +48/50 Waltz potency already. Jig caps with AF or Relic, so the upgrades to +3 just saved us an inventory slot and further enhancement would be pointless.

If they just stat dump on the armors and add 1 to all special stats, AF hands maybe become better than Nyame and Relic body/legs/feet get more likely to be useful for TP and WS, but it doesn't really matter.
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By Asura.Volteczero 2025-05-24 20:16:12
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+18% movement on all jobs pls
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By ruckusMonster 2025-05-24 21:26:11
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My prediction is Escha style augments. Each items get 4 different paths you have to choose from where each set has a locked A/B/C path and then each item gets a unique Path D. You get to pick one path per item and you have to farm eleventy billion points to fully upgrade the augment to max rank.

They'll deal with the increased inventory by releasing new mog wardrobes.

I also expect PDL to start showing up on a lot more gear, the way DT did with Odyssey gear and Empy+2/3 gear.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-05-25 04:41:48
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Quetzalcoatl.Jakey said: »
Presumably the relic +4 head for drg will cap the new breath cap
The breath+ cap increased by 50%, from 64/256 to 96/256.

On the other hand, looking at the progression of breath+ values on the Armet since it became Pteroslaver...

Pteroslaver NQ 49/256
Pteroslaver +1 56/256(+7/256)
Pteroslaver +2 64/256(+8/256)
Pteroslaver +3 72/256(+8/256)

So it's been increasing mostly in increments of +8/256. Assuming they keep to this basic pattern, then the +4 would be 80/256. with the cap still being 96. So it's unlikely to cap with just the Armet again unless they spike the values significantly over previous increments. They'd have to boost the Armet by 24/256 going to +4 to make it cap breath+ alone again. Which is triple the increase recent increments have gained.

Can still easily cap with Armet+Brigantia's regardless of what they do with the Armet. Although, currently when used with the +3 Armet, 14/256 of Brigantia's Breath+ is going to waste. And even more will be wasted if they further increase the Armet value. Which makes Updraft mantle a more appealing option again. Though I do wish we could get some pet macc+ on Updraft(breath+ aug, thus no cap.) And... I don't really wanna use Lancer's Torque or Glassblower's belt to fill in some of the non-aug breath+, even if they are strictly speaking more breath potency. The macc loss for elemental breaths is huge, and There are defensive and HP uses for those slots for Healing breaths. And HB is already massive overkill in the amount cured most of the time.
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By K123 2025-05-25 11:08:16
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Because I'm cheap and because I like to have everything r/ex I hope the new gear outdates some of the buyable items left like Ea Hat +1. Doubt that specifically will happen but still.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-05-25 11:17:11
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The thing about that, if it takes you 20 hours of limbus to get it, it may not have a price but it still costs the same as the +1 hat
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By K123 2025-05-25 11:18:06
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The thing about that, if it takes you 20 hours of limbus to get it, it may not have a price but it still costs the same as the +1 hat
Yeah, I just have an OCD thing about liking things to be r/ex and not sellable.
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By LightningHelix 2025-05-25 11:22:26
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
If this is how we get Synergy to 110 I'm here for it
finally my 0-80 grind pays off

edit: oh my god one of the Vana'bout rewards is the Model Synergy Furnace II for login points

have we willed this evil into existence
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By Asura.Bronzequadav 2025-05-25 12:12:36
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Was it confirmed limbus and AF+4/relic+4 is coming next month?
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By Asura.Meliorah 2025-05-25 12:16:18
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job exclusive effects get an increase of +1 or +2 and then add +12 onto everything and call it a day.
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By Phoenix.Michelob 2025-05-25 12:24:02
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Asura.Bronzequadav said: »
Was it confirmed limbus and AF+4/relic+4 is coming next month?

Freshly picked said shooting for June implementation but could be July. Only trash mobs at first, more to be released in coming updates. Not clear what exactly is coming in first update, gear wise.
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By crazy00 2025-05-25 15:26:55
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Please get rid and of magic damage taken and replace with magic evasion in paladin af!
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By Bahamut.Brixy 2025-05-27 09:33:26
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I'd like to see an Ambuscade style augment system for the AF armors. Something customizable beyond 4 set augment paths to branch out into some super unique options. Not sure if that's an option for the Relic armor unless they remove the augment abilities and put them on the gear itself.
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By Carbuncle.Yiazmaat 2025-05-27 09:47:13
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+15~25 seconds to second 1hr abilities could be nice. I thought they would've add this with empy +3 but they didnt.
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By Dildonunchucks 2025-05-27 09:49:55
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The synergy furnace looks kinda interesting
Battlefield / Crafting content warped together

Maybe some party members will have to protect and fend off mobs
While someone party members have to craft the gear

Just hoping it's not to over the top on the crafting aspect
Like needing the crafting shields
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2025-05-27 09:51:45
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Asura.Volteczero said: »
+18% movement on all jobs pls
Fulltime NIN boots please!!! ;p
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2025-05-27 10:25:41
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In all seriousness, I hope they make each set unique enough to make them worth building. They shouldn't replace or outclass the theme use of empyrean, because that's how you just make more power creep, but rather something that opens up optional play styles for each job.

For NIN, it would be nice if one set (or a mixture of all 3) was more focused on magic/burst damage, another set mixture with ranged stat boosts would be cool too!

I don't want them to just "be better than empyrean", I want them to open up variety, so that all the sets and each item in them has value to unique aspects of play. But this is SE, they don't play the game, so they don't really have a good understanding of how we play each job, and what each job wants/needs. Not like they used to anyway. So I am keeping low expectations to get anything more than the same stats power crept up more.

Edit: all NIN gear needs "dual wield" replaced with "augments dual wield". NIN doesn't need dual wield gear at all anymore, ever. (Except for maybe Gokotai idling I guess) So.... Yea I guess we can keep our DW gear..... I guess....
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By K123 2025-05-27 10:39:02
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I hope there are Refresh+2 piece for each of the mage jobs. Maybe even one piece per job for both AF and relic... wouldn't really reduce the number of ***to carry around but would at least have better defensive stats than Chironic or Merlinic.

No, don't tell me to farm refresh+1 pieces from Dynamis.
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By Felgarr 2025-05-27 11:40:38
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K123 said: »
I hope there are Refresh+2 piece for each of the mage jobs. Maybe even one piece per job for both AF and relic... wouldn't really reduce the number of ***to carry around but would at least have better defensive stats than Chironic or Merlinic.

No, don't tell me to farm refresh+1 pieces from Dynamis.

You post 3 times in a row across 45 minutes and then like your own post? Did you do an 8-ball before writing any of those posts?

But yes, my Merlinic and Chironic pieces with Refresh+2 are definitely getting old. Also, I usually use Volte pieces for Refresh+1 until RN-Jesus blesses me with a Refresh+2 augment.
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By Phoenix.Michelob 2025-05-27 11:52:34
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Dildonunchucks said: »
The synergy furnace looks kinda interesting
Battlefield / Crafting content warped together

Maybe some party members will have to protect and fend off mobs
While someone party members have to craft the gear

Just hoping it's not to over the top on the crafting aspect
Like needing the crafting shields

I believe it was stated in the Freshly Picked that the Furnace (which is NOT synergy) is in the lobby portion of the zone.
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By K123 2025-05-27 12:07:33
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Felgarr said: »
K123 said: »
I hope there are Refresh+2 piece for each of the mage jobs. Maybe even one piece per job for both AF and relic... wouldn't really reduce the number of ***to carry around but would at least have better defensive stats than Chironic or Merlinic.

No, don't tell me to farm refresh+1 pieces from Dynamis.

You post 3 times in a row across 45 minutes and then like your own post? Did you do an 8-ball before writing any of those posts?

But yes, my Merlinic and Chironic pieces with Refresh+2 are definitely getting old. Also, I usually use Volte pieces for Refresh+1 until RN-Jesus blesses me with a Refresh+2 augment.
1. I don't know what you're talking about.
2. You can't like your own posts on ffxiah; see point 1.
3. You think I'm drayco? Lol wtf; see point 1.
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By Felgarr 2025-05-27 13:23:15
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K123 said: »
Felgarr said: »
K123 said: »
I hope there are Refresh+2 piece for each of the mage jobs. Maybe even one piece per job for both AF and relic... wouldn't really reduce the number of ***to carry around but would at least have better defensive stats than Chironic or Merlinic.

No, don't tell me to farm refresh+1 pieces from Dynamis.

You post 3 times in a row across 45 minutes and then like your own post? Did you do an 8-ball before writing any of those posts?

But yes, my Merlinic and Chironic pieces with Refresh+2 are definitely getting old. Also, I usually use Volte pieces for Refresh+1 until RN-Jesus blesses me with a Refresh+2 augment.
1. I don't know what you're talking about.
2. You can't like your own posts on ffxiah; see point 1.
3. You think I'm drayco? Lol wtf; see point 1.

You know what?

1.) ...clearly, I made a mistake.
2.) I really need more coffee.
3.) I enjoy making lists too!

Please, carry on. :)
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2025-05-27 14:04:57
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1) this made me happy
2) I've gotten giggles
3) I'll refrain from double posting sometimes when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to hit the edit button to add thoughts to a topic.
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By Dodik 2025-05-27 14:05:51
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crazy00 said: »
Please get rid and of magic damage taken and replace with magic evasion in paladin af!

Do you know how to Pld?

It sounds like you want to play Run.
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By Bismarck.Feanorsof 2025-06-03 09:13:08
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SimonSes said: »
They have over 200 items for over 20 jobs and probably one designer for all of this. I will be seriously impressed if it's gonna be anything beyond generic stats identical for every job.

That's easy for one guy these days...

Hey ChatGPT, please provide upgrade stats to all this gear taking into account the current available gear. Ensure the upgrades are true sidegrades and that there is disappointment all round.