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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-28 13:31:04
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Other nations do not pay tariffs. Consumers pay tariffs.
This is wrong, but its also right.

The importer pays the tariff, but the importer also passes that buck to the consumer. However, if the importer fails to sell what they paid a tariff on, then the importer is the one paying the tariff.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-28 13:36:13
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Back on topic:

In Situations Where Most Humans Think You’re Being a Jerk, ChatGPT Will Assure You You’re Behaving Like an Angel

Or, intelligent or not they are programed to be sycophants.
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By Afania 2025-09-28 13:41:59
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Do you use AI often? I thought AI communication style being sycophants is totally obvious if you use AI a lot. And I am honestly impressed that some internet journalist need to write an article to talk about something THIS obvious. >.>

Also, according to AI they are programmed this way for the sake of good user experience.
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By Kaffy 2025-09-28 13:42:20
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i think eventually a lot of that will go away, but the motives behind the people training the AI is important, and not that far off topic from where we were.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-28 13:54:55
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Kaffy said: »
i think eventually a lot of that will go away, but the motives behind the people training the AI is important, and not that far off topic from where we were.
Those motives are simply to increase the use of AI.

TLDR: Engagement.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2025-09-28 23:18:55
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Other nations do not pay tariffs. Consumers pay tariffs.
This is wrong, but its also right.

The importer pays the tariff, but the importer also passes that buck to the consumer. However, if the importer fails to sell what they paid a tariff on, then the importer is the one paying the tariff.

This is technically the correct answer. However, this lead to a very interesting problem: since the tariff is being overturned in the US, the government would have to pay it back. What do you think is going to happen?

I guess since the importer is taking the risk, he will be pocketing that extra cash from selling overpriced imported Labubus.
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By RadialArcana 2025-09-29 03:30:31
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intelligent or not they are programed to be sycophants.


As a tool, of course it's going to be a sycophant to its user.

Nobody serious wants anything else.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-09-29 08:21:16
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Garuda.Chanti said: »


LLM's just tell you want you want to hear, regardless of if it's true nor not.
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By Pantafernando 2025-09-29 08:31:33
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But people just want to hear what they want to hear regardless of if it's true nor not, so maybe mission accomplished?
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-09-29 08:34:02
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Afania said: »
I thought AI communication style being sycophants is totally obvious if you use AI a lot

The average person probably doesn't pick up on it. There are a lot of scammers who successfully use AI to generate responses to people on dating sites, FB, text messages, etc and a lot of people don't pick up on it.

I went through this somewhat recently. My poor Dad was "dating" someone on some site he met "her" on. A few weeks after they "met", he nearly got scammed out of a lot of money through a pretty clever scam that had him transferring money around until I and the PD caught up to him. I found out about "her" later and when I looked at her messages, it was extremely obvious they were written by AI. According to the PD folks we spoke with, it's really common and scammers are using AI generated messages, most people don't pick up on it.

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However, this lead to a very interesting problem: since the tariff is being overturned in the US, the government would have to pay it back. What do you think is going to happen?

FWIW it hasn't fully been overturned, IIRC SCOTUS has until mid-month to rule on it. It's really unlikely they'll rule that they have to be refunded.

It's unlikely they'll rule against them in the first place, but refunding them is even more unlikely IMO. Either way, it's not a done deal yet.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-29 09:17:09
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Leviathan.Andret said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Other nations do not pay tariffs. Consumers pay tariffs.
This is wrong, but its also right.

The importer pays the tariff, but the importer also passes that buck to the consumer. However, if the importer fails to sell what they paid a tariff on, then the importer is the one paying the tariff.
This is technically the correct answer. However, this lead to a very interesting problem: since the tariff is being overturned in the US, the government would have to pay it back. What do you think is going to happen?

I guess since the importer is taking the risk, he will be pocketing that extra cash from selling overpriced imported Labubus.
This has happened before. The money was refunded.

Its 7:16 in my AM. Not looking for the citation right now.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-09-29 16:39:10
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Pantafernando said: »
But people just want to hear what they want to hear regardless of if it's true nor not, so maybe mission accomplished?

I mean, your not wrong...
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-29 17:04:13
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Its 7:16 in my AM. Not looking for the citation right now.
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By Kaffy 2025-10-13 14:24:33
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disregard the clickbait title, actually a decent watch with lots of pros and cons

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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-10-13 15:07:38
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Too wordy, too long, too alarmist and I lasted only 5 minuets.
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By K123 2025-10-13 15:08:21
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1st kill of autonomous vehicle is nowhere near 'AI', just machine learning.
2nd kill is also just a 'detect movement, suicide bomb' drone. No intelligence really.
Lots of hype and bs.

Have some Bernie Sanders
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In my mind I imagine Chanti is exactly Bernie Sanders irl.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-10-13 16:30:57
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K123 said: »
In my mind I imagine Chanti is exactly Bernie Sanders irl.
I have more hair than that and I wear aviators.
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By K123 2025-10-13 17:26:47
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Who's more likely to reach 90?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-10-13 18:35:22
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He's got three years on me so probably him first.

We are both ashkenazi Jewish who tend to live longer than most.
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By K123 2025-10-13 20:20:16
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Wtf I didn't know he was a Jew. Why isn't he trying to destroy the world like Zuckerberg and Altman?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-10-14 09:22:11
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K123 said: »
Wtf I didn't know he was a Jew. Why isn't he trying to destroy the world like Zuckerberg and Altman?
Actually we are supposed to set a good example for rest of the world to follow.

Bernie is doing better than I in that regard.
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By K123 2025-10-14 11:11:54
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I'm not going to discuss this subject anymore because I'll get Radial'd
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By Kaffy 2025-10-14 15:38:04
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now we're getting somewhere

https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-announces-chatgpt-getting-into-erotica-2025-10
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-10-15 09:46:00
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A small number of samples can poison LLMs of any size

This as an attack vector is interesting, get it to generate suggestions for a library that hosts malicious code.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-10-15 10:44:30
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Did anyone every thing this wasn't where was gonna go ultimately?
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-10-15 10:45:18
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Finally, I can get it to make that RA, Rooks, and Panta fanfic I've always wanted.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-10-15 11:44:58
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Did anyone every thing this wasn't where was gonna go ultimately?
Rule 34 says hi!
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By Pantafernando 2025-10-15 12:28:49
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
Finally, I can get it to make that RA, Rooks, and Panta fanfic I've always wanted.

While its very understandable being attracted by me, I think it is also very questionable the choosen supportive cast
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