Are Large Language Models Really AI?

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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-26 09:31:08
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Afania said: »
The reason why people want to pay peanuts to begin with, is because the situation that those images are used aren't generating massive profit to begin with.
The reason why people want to pay peanuts to begin with is that they are cheap and they wanted to get it for free using AI but they can't and humans are seen as disposable.

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You can't pay peanuts to someone for an image and expect it will sell millions, or use AI and sell millions. Art market doesn't work that way. And I don't see how this could change in the foreseeable future.
We aren't talking fine art here we are talking cheap add pics or company logos.

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Common saying in Comp. Sci. - ***in, ***out.

Bad data produces bad data. That's what we're seeing.
Nope. What we are seeing is expectations exceeding software capability. Or, it ain't GIGO its the crap in between the I and the O.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-26 09:35:00
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Paged!!!



Seeing as they are now training AI on AI generated input that diagram needs one more arrow tip.
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By Afania 2025-09-26 10:12:22
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The reason why people want to pay peanuts to begin with is that they are cheap and they wanted to get it for free using AI but they can't and humans are seen as disposable.

What do you mean? I don't see how setting an art budget in commercial space is in anyway relevant to their point of view on humans.

There are still people who paid $5000 for a piece of art from big name artists in the industry for marketing purposes, because the marketing value from them generates more money than what they paid. Are you trying to say people are paying that much money because they see human as not-disposable or something?

And then there are people who paid $10 for a drawing on DeviantArt or Fiverr WAY before AI art exists, or they use stock images on Shutterstock. Are you saying all of them see human as disposable?

Just FYI, those people who paid $10-$20 for a drawing on DeviantArt before AI images are often just poor students or individuals who wants a hentai picture for "quick visual entertainment" or a cool forum avatars. They are paying that little because those images just aren't generating more values for them. And now AI is replacing human in this price tier because it was already not high price tier market with high return before.

I failed too see HOW price tiers existed is anyway relevant to how people see humans. It feels like an very forced assumption to me.
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By Afania 2025-09-26 10:15:05
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
We aren't talking fine art here we are talking cheap add pics or company logos.


They belongs to different markets, fine art is in high tier market and logos and clip arts are mid to low tier market depending on how big your clients are.

but they still follows business 101 when the price is set: Supply and demand, investment v.s return etc.

When you try to frame basic market rules of supply and demand and market tier as people's perspective on humans, it felt forced if not biased.

Edit: Also AI actually seperates fine art and commercial art into 2 categories, and even in the space of commercial art, the mid to high tier market still aren't replaced by AI as of now. What AI really replaced is those Fiverr/DeviantArt/Shutterstock market which was already a low tier art market WAY before AI can do images.
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By Dodik 2025-09-26 10:15:40
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Ever seen that movie where they hooked up a bunch of girls/guys in a line with.. you know the one.

It's like that.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-09-26 14:27:36
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