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By benjaman 2025-03-24 12:29:30
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I'm trying to figure out what exactly are the rules for when a kick attack procs, but I'm having trouble finding the information. Hoping to get some clarity here. If any of these answers change with Footwork active, please let me know.

Can "Kick Attacks" proc on attack rounds where QA/TA/DA procced?

Does each hit in a h2h round have a chance to proc KA?

Can KA proc on WS?

Can KA procs proc QA/TA/DA?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-24 12:37:51
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Yes, kicks come after h2h but if you QA QA you get no kicks (no testing to prove this, but the max attack rounds is 8, so that's how it should work)

No, KA are their own term at the end of both fists

Yes and No, well a dragon kick or tornado kick can multiattack...

No, DA TA QA can't proc on a kick, you can only ever kick once, twice with empyrean set bonus
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By Nariont 2025-03-24 12:43:41
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kick attacks are in the same areas as follow up attacks in that they occur at the end of the round, not sure if follow up stacks ontop of it, but they wont interfere with DA/TA/QA/OaT and they also cant DA/TA/QA/OaT(unless certain gear allows it)
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By benjaman 2025-03-24 13:17:56
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Thanks for the help!

Asura.Eiryl said: »
Yes and No, well a dragon kick or tornado kick can multiattack...

I have a question about this one though. Do Dragon Kick and Tornado Kick uniquely have the property of being able to proc KA?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-03-24 13:19:42
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Only when Footwork is used:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Footwork
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All boosts affect Dragon Kick and Tornado Kick, which use Kick base damage when Footwork is active
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By benjaman 2025-03-24 13:21:20
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Only when Footwork is used:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Footwork
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All boosts affect Dragon Kick and Tornado Kick, which use Kick base damage when Footwork is active

Procing and using Kick damage is different though. I want to know about whether or not I have a chance to get an extra hit in the Dragon Kick / Tornado kick or not.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-24 13:25:08
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It's a physical attack, so yes.

They're h2h damage and proc extra hits normally, and foot damage and proc extra hits (da/ta/qa, not kicks) under footwork
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By Nariont 2025-03-24 15:31:33
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TK/DK under FW function as a regular ws, they just use your kick dmg instead of h2h, everything for regular ws' apply just view them like that, you still wont get a KA proc on it
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-03-24 17:30:06
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In addition to they base damage, they also benefit from the 25% enhanced footwork attack bonus, yeah?
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By Felgarr 2025-03-24 17:35:04
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's a physical attack, so yes.

They're h2h damage and proc extra hits normally, and foot damage and proc extra hits (da/ta/qa, not kicks) under footwork

Nariont said: »
TK/DK under FW function as a regular ws, they just use your kick dmg instead of h2h, everything for regular ws' apply just view them like that, you still wont get a KA proc on it

Are you guys saying the same thing? I was under the impression that Footwork confers extra damage with Dragon Kick / Tornado Kick WSes.

I do not know what to call this extra Tornado/Dragon Kick WS damage. Can I call it: "extra damage, based on kick damage, not h2h damage, and also, won't proc Kick Attacks ...but Tornado/Dragon Kick can still proc DA/TA/OaT multiattacks?"

Is this right?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-24 17:38:59
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It's more complicated than it should be but that's correct.

Adding more kick attack rate won't add extra kicks(hits) to dragon kick/tornado kick.

Adding DA TA QA will add more h2h based damage to dragon kick/tornado kick.

Adding DA TA QA will add more kick based damage to dragon kick/tornado kick. When footwork is up.
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