Using /check In-game (A Morality Topic)

Meanwhile, in Japan, they used the a traditional Japanese style of loincloth(越中ふんどし/Echū fundoshi).
To be honest, I actually enjoy having casual chats like this much more—it's fun and I really like it.
I'll leave a useful URL here for reference.
https://matsurisumitaya.hamazo.tv/e7834373.html

If we ever need an example that the world post-9/11 just enjoys the act of the argument more than what is said or a resolution....its the same people arguing over looking at someone's video game character's pixel choices for 17 years.

Really- its just so far beyond ridiculous and reached the point of the musical dance of syllables and flow matters more than what is actually said. Its a goddam game you pay to play, not one you're forced to play, or even one you randomly found to play for free. You folks just like to make others angry so you can go to bed tonight thinking you're superior.

Dammit more random stuff I am now buying.

That loincloth is revolutionary Throw a silkscreen on that and we're set for the summer!

were the women who were harassed by those private server admins "asking for it"? should they have just kept quiet because it's just a damn video game? a little empathy for others can go a long way, all this machismo and bravado to man the *** up and just ignore something that bothers you is sad. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's not the person I want to be.

I've seen those before.

Many foreigners in Japan do not know what those are, and are very confused.

The private server admins were going beyond the pixels of their character using their position of authority to extort whatever they wanted OF THE REAL PERSON (this is very important) via a threat of a ban resulting in a lack of access. They also used the private data acquired as an admin (ie their IP, access to private conversations if made in game, etc) to further blackmail and/or extort the end user. Yes, the private server is a free game, doesnt change the fact that this is sexual coercion.

This is an inconsequential message in FFXI stating that someone is looking at your characters equipment. And again, the biggest problem with this is solely due of how SE wrote the check message in Japanese: "stares at you intently". Would this still be an issue if it said "is looking at the weapon and armor you have on?" Is that still "rapey"?

It's a type of traditional Japanese men's underwear from the past.
Nowadays, most men in Japan wear briefs or boxers, but there are still some people who prefer wearing fundoshi.
They're often worn during festivals (matsuri) or when wearing traditional Japanese clothing like kimono.
If you search for “japan matsuri fundoshi” in an image search, you'll probably get a good idea of what it looks like.
I didn't wear it regularly, but I did wear one on rare occasions during special events when I was a kid.

Ah, I just realized something.
Just like female warriors wear bikini armor, maybe male warriors are meant to wear fundoshi.
Maybe the reason some Japanese players like subligar so much in FFXI... is because there’s no actual fundoshi in the game.

Some of us in the U.S. just cosplay mad max 2.

Seems relevant:

Of course they do, it's literally in the name - FUNdoshi.

Well...this conversation certainly took a turn...

I don't think the /check is the important part of this conversation. The same social contract applies to an infinite number of other requests.

If your LS mate asks you to call them by one character's name over the other character's name.
If they ask you to call them by their first name (or not)
If they ask you to trade them stuff instead of bazaaring it
If they ask you to send them messages on Discord instead of in-game
If they want you to set a lockstyle
If they don't want you to jobemote them
If they don't want you to follow them

Or whatever other unimportant, insignificant request they make of you. If they make this request repeatedly and you don't follow it, you're the *** in the situation.

If you then go online and hide important facts about that situation, you're doubly an ***.

If I posted a thread saying "AITA for calling my friend Rob, his given name?" then it turned out that Rob was worried about being dox'd because he's the only Rob in his small town of 35 people in the Midwest, and he repeatedly told me for months not to call him Rob, and ESPECIALLY not to do it infront of Sinistral, who lived in the same small town as him, and I intentionally waited for Sinistral to join the Discord and then LOUDLY proclaimed "Hey Sinistral, do you know ROB?!"

Then um...that would be a *** thing of me to do. Even if I/you don't think it's a very serious problem. That's not up to us to decide, it's up to the other person to decide.

And it's not about video game pixels, it's about human beings.

Edit: for another example, since I offended your delicate feelings with the last one. Say, hypothetically, there was an online database where your company/government made people's salaries public by request. If this system sent an email to the person any time their salary information was requested and they were uncomfortable with you looking their salary up...you could say "turn off the setting where you get notified if it bothers you" but...if they specifically told you they'd rather you not look up their salary, multiple times, and you still looked it up...you're an ***. I'm sorry, I don't know how else to explain it to you. It's not the notification that's the issue, it's the thing you're doing in the first place.

Inconsequential to you and many others, perhaps, but if you continue to do something you've been asked not to do (by an LS member, too, not some random you crossed paths with in Jeuno) because you maintain that it is your right and "just part of the game", well that's inconsiderate. Not "rapey", or against any rules. Just a bit rude. Maybe they just don't like each other and don't get along or something. Who knows? My point was that we can be quick to shift blame away from our own actions instead of trying to understand others' viewpoint.

Can't believe we wasted a question in the Reddit AMA a while back on trying to get the dev team to look at Kannagi/Blade: Hi when we could have been asking for fundoshi. I hope that next time we get direct contact, the English-language and Japanese communities can come together to ask for fundoshi.

Hmm build an addon that automatically does /check to anyone passing within 10 yalms...

Now there's an idea.

Someone on Asura had a script a couple years ago that would check any bazaar that got close to them. You could set and unset your bazaar over and over again and they'd instantly check you for it every time.

They will buy items that are set under a certain price.

New Addon : PervAlert

Automatically sends a tell to the person who checked you ... Enjoy !

GitHub: PervAlert

1-turn on the filter to block check messages
2A-blist the problematic LS member
2B-find a better LS that doesnt have shitty LS members
2C-maybe they cant find a better LS because they are the shitty LS member. When I left SD way back when, Emerald was very quick to snatch me up when they found out I was a free agent, despite my history and grating personality. (OG Gilgameshians will understand this) Turns out being good at this game is more important than "being a nice respectable person".


Let me remind you that you were the one equating the /c function in this game to someone trying to do this:


But not the video game version.

Oh that Trophy also exists IRL
Miss Universe

I hope you don't mind me focusing on this particular point, but this is where we disagree. I'm arguing to remember that there is a real person on the other end of the screen and you're claiming that that doesn't matter.

I doubt we'll make any headway since this is the case, so I'll end it here.

I get championship trophies
You get participation trophies

We arent the same

Summing up a worldwide generation in as few words as possible:


Our grandparents fought Nazis.

Our parents put a man on The Moon.

We brought down The Wall.

...our kids don't like people looking at them.

Society has unquestionably changed, mostly due to technology, much faster than we as humans can keep up. I think this is evident in many ways today.

I would love to talk it about it more, but in your own words it is hard to hold discussion with someone who only wants to win and not share knowledge.

Boy I know you aint talking about me with that "only wants to win and not share knowledge" spiel because I did share knowledge:


The retort to that was "this is like telling women to ignore the creep always peeking up her skirt".

Lol damn this brought me back to when I first started playing in 2004, so many great laughable moments checking people. I do check everyone who has a bazaar so it can update in FFXIAH.

What's fine for you is not necessarily fine for someone else, different cultures, different manners, different habits, let that sink in.

Turning on filters can be a solution to something, but not a resolution to the issue (clowning around as White Mage on Tank heal duty while unnecessarily checking said person who's previously informed multiple times about the issue, and said person being a jerk about).

I wouldn't want to turn off a feature of the game permanently because of 1 or 2 or 3 idiots...

The guy was a ***, simple, get over it.