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 Carbuncle.Yiazmaat
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By Carbuncle.Yiazmaat 2025-03-07 04:30:42
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I've seen some ppl using Culminus shield from Omega htmb for the +75 mdmg on hélices, idk how much the difference is from Ammurapi.
Also if you go for free luminohelix II, you can consider daybreak rather than bunzi.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-03-07 04:34:45
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uuuh I totally didn't consider Daybreak and Weatherspoon Ring +1 for Luminohelix 2
Makes perfect sense but I completely missed it.

Bet I can easily break 10k without food and trusts while using Reive cape if using Daybreak and Ring!
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-03-07 10:12:01
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Yeah Daybreak is the answer for sure. I think I tried with stage 5 Opashoro for fun and I don't think that even hit 10k.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-03-07 10:37:58
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Oh Perg I forgot to mention your previous comment about Shell V.
I've had my Shell V stolen at least 2 times, and it created no difference at all in the damage of my following helices.

Implying I suppose one of three possible things
1) CoD already has "capped" MDT, so the additional MDT from Shell doesn't add anything
2) The duration of the absorbed shell is very short and by the time I hit it with my next Helix it was gone already
3) Shell V from players for whatever reason doesn't work on CoD because... it's special?

Given how Shell V normally works just fine on mobs that can absorb it, I'd be leaning to rule #3 out.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-03-07 17:10:10
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Huh now that's very interesting... I was just avoiding it out of paranoia. I have no idea why that would be the case.

Very few monsters have MDT, so as weird as it sounds, #2 is probably where I'd put my money. Most of the time monsters having DT is part of some mechanic where you do something to lower the DT (like proccing them or killing adds), so it could be that? But I've never heard of anything like that on this fight before.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-03-07 17:52:32
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There might be more reasons for that but I can't think of anything else.
I couldn't make my dispel land (dark based, makes sense) and it happened to steal with absorb-Attri my Shell V at least two times, in two separate runs.

In the end I just tried to cast my Helix when the time came, and it hit for the same exact damage as before so... I dunno, if you can think of anything else I'd be happy to hear it.

ShellV probably got stolen more times than two, but I simply stopped caring for that, since it proved to not affect me in any possible way.


Edit:
Actually I can remember at least one time where my helix hit for like ~8.5k instead of the usual ~10k.
In that specific case it was probably a matter of full potency stoneskin being absorbed? Or a partial resist? Or I dunno what else could've been.
But again, following helices hit for the regular value so it clearly wasn't a matter of MDT?
Unless we want to go for hypothesys #2, i.e. a very short duration ShellV, and that Helix hit during that very short window
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By Asura.Volteczero 2025-03-07 18:07:09
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I tried this out and shellV getting absorbed definitely affected by damage a lot
Luminohelix went from 12k to like 8.5k
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-03-08 04:18:02
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Then I cannot explain what happened in my situation, which is specifically at least 2 times as I mentioned and it's not a vague memory but a pretty clear one because I was pretty in paranoia mode after it got absorbed.
But then I simply ended the run and won like nothing happened, soo... yeah, if you can find an explanation I'll be glad to read!
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By buttplug 2025-03-08 16:50:42
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I go SCH/NIN
If you just helix and run laps
Keeping stoneskin and shadows up
Should be no ADDS
Worst case maybe 1 ADD on final helix
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By K123 2025-03-08 17:15:17
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How is >10k helix without magic busting it possible?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-03-08 17:37:03
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Ebullience? MAB/MDMG set? It's a dark based mob, so it takes decent Light damage (70%). Seen several videos with 11k+ Luminohelix.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-03-08 18:45:04
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What Buukki said, and daybreak + weatherspoon
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