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November 2024 Version Update
By Seun 2024-11-11 18:51:40
How am I ever going to enjoy a content that happens once every new moon and that one time I'm offline or just started doing something else?
2006 called to confirm, this was always an issue. Old content is fundamentally old.
Shiva.Liam
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By Shiva.Liam 2024-11-11 19:34:59
It's just another reason to give you to log in. Don't take it for more than it is.
It's more than that. It's the ultimate FOMO. It's gonna get ultra annoying if they add some super cool rewards for like 30000 points and you have no clear timeline on when you'd ever get that item because besieged is unpredictable. You're going to see Besieged "preparing" and fear missing it if it runs into your planned Sortie run or whatever (because they take forever to get to the damn city), then you might not catch one for days.
People will do it at the start and then forget about keeping up with it in a month or two, and then when SE drops level 15 besieged with a new assault line armor set, people will rage at the slow rate of acquiring points.
inb4 galli style cap on point acquisition until said awesome gear is released
edit: no idea how i triple posted this silly response, sorry gang!
Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-11-11 19:47:53
Noticed myself getting ninjutsu skillups while on COR main. Anybody observing similar?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-11-11 20:28:11
They did fix the master level skill cap bug (supposedly)
Sounds like they broke it in a better way at least.
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2024-11-11 20:29:12
Hadn't realized there was a bug with Master levels and skill ups. Every time I gained a Master Level on WAR I just cycled through my weapons for a few enemies until everything turned blue again...
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2024-11-11 20:50:42
Only heard of it on rdm specifically with enhancing magic.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2024-11-11 20:53:04
Its only at like M45 and only RDM and WHM that I've seen
No issues with weapons not capping, or elemental magic, only the on player cast stuff. Heals enhancing
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By Asura.Chaostaru 2024-11-11 21:04:25
geo at ml50 too, 2000 indi spells not a single 0.1 skill up for geomancy or handbell, havent tried post update tho
By Moonlightagb 2024-11-11 23:26:24
Finished a lv9 Mamool Besieged with 5333 IS, 100 IS accoldades, 16000 limit points. The only other post here I've noticed had the exact same amount of IS and IS accolades, is this a cap or have others gotten more? Played for about 8 minutes fully active until it ended.
It's gonna be a long grind for even a stack of meds if ~100 accolades is all we can get. Is there a good way to estimate the exact start time of the event so we don't have to afk waiting for as long?
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By Dodik 2024-11-12 04:47:45
Besieged always starts on the hour, earth time.
The message that forces are attacking happens at 30 minutes past the hour and invasion will happen right on the hour after that message.
If you see forces "advancing" in the world map, they will attack on the next hour, real time.
By SimonSes 2024-11-12 05:23:42
Finished a lv9 Mamool Besieged with 5333 IS, 100 IS accoldades, 16000 limit points. The only other post here I've noticed had the exact same amount of IS and IS accolades, is this a cap or have others gotten more? Played for about 8 minutes fully active until it ended.
It's gonna be a long grind for even a stack of meds if ~100 accolades is all we can get. Is there a good way to estimate the exact start time of the event so we don't have to afk waiting for as long?
In future updates they will probably add like lvl 10 giving 200 lv11 giving 400 etc. then some Besieged Mireu super ultra megazord formed from all beastman kings, which will give like 6400+6400 in lv15 or something.
Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-11-12 06:56:41
Besieged always starts on the hour, earth time.
The message that forces are attacking happens at 30 minutes past the hour and invasion will happen right on the hour after that message.
If you see forces "advancing" in the world map, they will attack on the next hour, real time.
Thank you for that, I will be happy to confirm that observation because it is very useful.
By Dodik 2024-11-12 07:43:54
No need to re-confirm it, it's been that way since 75 cap :D
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Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-11-13 08:03:08
Mine started at 8:52 AM today. First one during my play time hours since patch.
I did 5333 IS, 100 accolades, 16000 limit points on 1 character so I assume that is the cap. I did 2 less accolades on my 2nd character that wasn't as active and less IS and limit points as well.
By Dodik 2024-11-13 09:02:26
Roughly on the hour, -+10min. Ours started 4min past the hour.
Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2024-11-13 10:28:47
Still useful
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-11-13 10:34:58
+-10 min is sounding less scientific/reliable, is this actually verified/tested somewhere?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-11-13 13:14:35
+/- 10 min is pretty bad lol
Thats a 20 minute window
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By Meeble 2024-11-13 13:58:40
then some Besieged Mireu super ultra megazord formed from all beastman kings
Mireusa
Mirleul Ha Ha
Mirfeurlur the Inconvenient Timing
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-11-13 14:08:38
You forgot
Khimireu
Mireubus
Midra (i got nothing for Hydra using the entirety of Mireu)
By Meeble 2024-11-13 14:21:33
Mir Mie Miu
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2024-11-13 15:00:10
Besieged always starts on the hour, earth time.
The message that forces are attacking happens at 30 minutes past the hour and invasion will happen right on the hour after that message.
If you see forces "advancing" in the world map, they will attack on the next hour, real time. No need to re-confirm it, it's been that way since 75 cap :D
Uh... I don't think that has ever been true. I think that what's on BG is correct, and has been that way since the Aht Urghan era:
Quote: Arrival times from advancing to attack are as follows:
The Undead Horde arrive the earliest at 15-20 minutes.
The Troll Mercenaries take about 23-35 minutes to arrive.
The Mamool Ja Savages take about 20-35 minutes to arrive.
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Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-11-13 15:26:49
It's always on the hour, give or take. It's close enough to be able to plan around. Whether it's always been this way, who can say?
Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2024-11-13 15:43:59
Who can say? I thought it was common knowledge that the Undead/Lamia show up faster than the others, I've known that since Besieged was implemented.
I'm not sure when the attacking message comes, maybe that is indeed on the 30 minute mark. But if the times on BG and old wiki are true (and I see no reason to believe they aren't), that's a pretty wide gap. If attacking message is at 1:30, arrival time could be between 1:45 and 2:05.
At the very least, testing is worthwhile here and the answer of "No need to re-confirm it, it's been that way since 75 cap" does not sound like very good advice.
Even if they had arrived at/near the hour mark for the past 18 years, we don't know if there may have been new changes in arrival time just this week, whether times still vary by which army is attacking, whether it varies by Besieged level, etc.
Data to confirm would be useful, and to me testing seems obviously needed to confirm what sounds like an overgeneralization. We've already gone on this very page from "invasion will happen right on the hour", to people reporting other times like :52 after and :4 after, to the much less precise +/- 10 minutes (which still isn't fully consistent with previously known timing, since in the past, lamia could arrive sooner)...
Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-11-13 15:54:30
It sounds to me like you're questioning it without bringing any of your own observations to the table. AFK a few nights in Al Zahbi and see.
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By Asura.Seraphical 2024-11-13 16:15:16
To be fair the Undead arrived around the hour mark on Asura just now, battle lasted around 10 mins or so
By Dodik 2024-11-13 16:18:58
Notes based on observation over a period of 20 years. I like besieged and do it often.
If you were to observe something for that long and it never changes, you could argue that is always the case. Not guaranteed, and I have no interest in a formula to figure out when Besieged happens. I know it is roughly around the hour and don't mind afk-ing for 10min.
I do know the mobs actually walk through the zone to get to Al Zahbi and the time it takes them varies a bit. Traffic, I guess.
If you want to argue when the message happens or mobs should be appearing sooner, may I suggest raising it on the official SE survey.
Bismarck.Radec
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By Bismarck.Radec 2024-11-13 16:25:12
Here's every besieged-start message I've logged since 2016. I don't see any real-world clock time that matches the pattern - certainly not on the hour.
Specifically, this looked for the message "[group <has/have>] breached the Balrahn Defense Line!Intercept their forces in Al Zahbi's Bastion!"
Code 2016.02.09 12:53:54 The Troll Mercenaries
2016.04.15 20:35:25 The Mamool Ja Savages
2016.10.02 11:57:34 The Troll Mercenaries
2016.12.18 14:08:25 The Troll Mercenaries
2017.02.19 12:47:13 The Troll Mercenaries
2017.09.16 22:34:59 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.06.05 20:18:55 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.08.09 22:06:43 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.08.15 19:07:03 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.09.10 20:54:33 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.09.15 14:41:11 The Troll Mercenaries
2018.09.23 16:50:49 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.10.13 00:02:42 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.10.13 21:58:00 The Troll Mercenaries
2018.10.14 16:06:27 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.11.11 15:36:29 The Troll Mercenaries
2018.11.19 20:55:22 The Troll Mercenaries
2018.12.16 16:21:35 The Mamool Ja Savages
2018.12.16 17:47:15 The Undead Swarm
2019.01.15 20:31:17 The Undead Swarm
2019.01.17 20:58:05 The Undead Swarm
2019.01.17 20:59:36 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.01.27 18:44:45 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.02.09 16:51:34 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.03.12 10:29:56 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.03.21 21:49:07 The Undead Swarm
2019.03.30 21:29:05 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.04.07 18:53:03 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.04.10 19:07:45 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.05.11 18:47:49 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.05.26 10:45:53 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.06.15 21:39:09 The Undead Swarm
2019.06.17 21:12:27 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.07.15 12:15:56 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.07.15 23:18:22 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.08.07 21:11:03 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.08.30 21:43:28 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.09.20 19:03:11 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.10.05 12:00:22 The Troll Mercenaries
2019.10.15 17:48:01 The Mamool Ja Savages
2019.10.18 18:31:23 The Mamool Ja Savages
2020.03.21 14:31:49 The Mamool Ja Savages
2020.04.11 08:55:52 The Undead Swarm
2020.09.13 15:14:25 The Mamool Ja Savages
2021.07.16 15:13:11 The Mamool Ja Savages
2021.08.04 09:43:51 The Mamool Ja Savages
2021.08.08 12:57:16 The Troll Mercenaries
2021.08.11 07:52:35 The Undead Swarm
2021.08.20 20:15:52 The Troll Mercenaries
2021.11.16 19:57:04 The Troll Mercenaries
2022.01.16 20:54:07 The Mamool Ja Savages
2022.04.06 19:47:23 The Troll Mercenaries
2022.05.14 14:02:39 The Troll Mercenaries
2022.09.24 15:18:21 The Troll Mercenaries
2022.09.30 22:11:09 The Undead Swarm
2023.01.08 11:53:23 The Undead Swarm
2023.08.01 10:03:17 The Troll Mercenaries
2023.12.29 14:08:04 The Mamool Ja Savages
2024.03.12 20:49:43 The Undead Swarm
2024.05.16 20:47:52 The Mamool Ja Savages
2024.11.13 09:38:23 The Undead Swarm
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