COR/DRK

What's the point of these Saevel badge worthy comments? He made a point about COR objective in sortie, directly related to the topic. You, on the other hand, is making some child-level stating-the-obvious comment about min-max, speed runs etc. like people don't know anything about.

His point is still valid - the cor, not being the bottleneck, will have his optimizations gains dismissed by other objectives. That's not min-maxing, that's being stupid. Talking about 3 different Su5 weapon when that's not going to make a difference is something to consider.

Idk why K123 brought up /DNC in a /DRK thread literally pointless.

The irony.

Calling people out that care how others play, only to be a hypocrite and advocate for suboptimal is the worst bs I have ever seen in 21 years of FFXI forums.

idk why you make pointless comments to say things are pointless, unless your life is pointless.

Anyone doing 9 boss runs or HQ Animon probably isn't dumb enough to pretend either dagger matters in clearing or not, or saving 3 seconds matters.

1) He made a point then asked a question "Why argue over which to use when none are needed", I simply answered the question. If he only made the statement without the question, then I wouldn't respond.

2) Then after I answered the question, he subsequently downplay min-maxing hobby by calling it "pointless", I simply made a statement that disagrees with his opinion. God forbid I defend for a hobby when people openly trash it on forums.

I have absolutely np with k123 kindly remind people that multiple dagger isn't needed to play cor in sortie. It's a valid opinion. I only respond to his own question and subsequent downplay on other people's hobby.



I thought the initial question "Why argue over which to use when none are needed" has a child-level obvious answer too, but if this is the case then the question wouldn't be asked lol.


Wait what? Don't bring some non-existent drama on me k? I give zero *** on if you want to bring WAR to seg farm or not, nor I ever tell you "don't do that".

On the subject of single wielding, pretty sure Bukki is right about triple shot though. Would like to see a comparison of speed to kill 5 ele, if TS can even stay up long enough.

I don't need confirmation. I've witnessed a very high level COR clear B objective and Porxie (if he's there) before I can run to Acuex and kill 6 for metal. He usually hits me with bolters right around the time in finishing my 6th. Sometimes its close, but he can definitely clear it minus porxie before my 6 and beat me to H. When asked how he does it, he said he doesn't engage, just triple shot in max set and fires off 3 Leadens. I've even tried it myself, and even without DP, I've cleared it faster than the 3 step way. I've not seen any COR able to do it that fast using any other method.

But you guys can debate which su5 is better

He's probably using store tp dagger and death penalty though

Don't really see your point in this thread. Best method? Maybe. A method? Sure.

If I get B shard with QD > RA > melee the rest of 3 step and finish before Triple Shot is over I imagine it's still pacing your friend. I use Path B, but I think shard obj is a bad example for which Rostam is better. (unless you're purely shooting or purely melee).

The specific example Galka introduced was elementals for Shard B. He introduced the different paths, so it's completely fair to compare which one is "faster", if you care. Doesn't matter what you consider to be a bad example. Either one's faster than the other or neither matter, and what the hell is the point of the discussion at that point.

If you can LS WS LS elementals to death, do you really need to be debating or is even possible to debate which dagger is better?

If you are to keep the sc going for the last LS, you are talking about seconds difference here which makes no difference to a 1h event.

Yeah but what else are people going to talk about? The Bonanza weapons buzz has died off

I did learn about COR, a job I only play as a filler, so that's pretty good!!

Also, who am I to complain. I'm usually the one dragging conversations into multiple pages. Lol

So… are there any methods to accurately simulate? The spreadsheets don’t have accurate FUA, either

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Multi-Attack

Based on what I'm reading here, and statistics arent my strong point, apply the 50% FUA on every hit in the attack round, with a limit of one FUA per attack round?

If Porxie is in the same room, Triple shot is the way to go. If not, I hold Triple shot until I find the Porxie (if it's near by). I try to be judicious on when I use TS given the recast timer on it.

I think TS for elementals is correct. You pull the initial tag w/ triple shot, run up and Leaden, then melee w/ Rostam B for TP for the rest. Rinse Repeat.

Porxie dies just fine melee in 2 skillchains of Leaden > Wasp > Leaden. Just hold for 2kish TP to guarantee. You'll know your in good shape if the 1st skillchain gets it to 50% or less, you can gauge how much tp you need based on the 1st skillchain. Pull it with double QD since you probably have 0TP from bolters-ing over to it.

Why hold Triple....? Where else in the entire run are you using Triple on COR outside of the initial pull

Follow that page. I think it's the following:

It's 50% FUA on all rounds, plus a %50 FUA on the remaining subsequent attacks given that FUA didn't proc.

Supposed you have 50% DA and 20% TA with 50% FUA. In, 100 rounds, 50 will be FUA only, 5 will be TA with FUA, 5 TA, 10 DA with FUA, 10 will be DA and 20 will have no multi-attack. Combine together, you get 5 rounds of quad attack, 15 rounds of triple attack, 60 rounds of double attack and 20 with no multi attack.

At least that's what I read.

I'm reading the bolded as FUA can only proc on any hit within the attack round, but FUA can only proc once within that attack round.
So if you have two triple attack procs, the most you can do is 7 attacks in that round (TA + TA + FUA on one of the previous 6 attacks). Unless theyre considering "attack round" to be primary attack round per hand.

This is how I kill the elementals and I usually end up meeting our RDM at A and bolter's-ing him over to D as he finishes the last 1-3 Acuex.

Porxie I kinda used to avoid and save for after F reive if we have time, since we start w H (and thus have 5songs/SV when doing KI) and i'm afraid of the porxie taking my damn Aria... but I've realized that when I'm /DNC I can pretty easily stun the dispel move w Flourish so long as I'm paying attention - not sure if you're still able to do this w Stun when /DRK but even blowing thru the Porxie super quickly, getting dispelled has been a worry of mine until the past few days