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December 2023 Version Update
 Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3867
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 20:58:39
Maletaru discovered that V1Flan has a low HP pool and a full party hitting all the goals in 3 runs is not happening.
So far, the only two accounts of "its about 30 minutes to hit all the goals" is soloers, who can amass their own damage taken, who are the only ones casting, WSing, SCing, MBing etc etc the mob with limited HP.
Its almost as if I know what I'm talking about.
By Seun 2023-12-12 21:05:28
Vana'Doubt
I can't even be mad that it's impossible because the rewards are that bad lol
By Hopalong 2023-12-12 21:08:54
There's so much "daily" stuff that its coming out of my ears in ffxi lately. Luckily I just play for fun and realize that the poulange thingy they just did with sidegrade idle armor isn't worth it, the prime grind which isn't worth it, this new ambu thing that isn't worth it etc, but its all good.
Its just SE doing their thing as best they know how as a billion dollar company not worried about us players (especially NA cmon we know how JP vs NA has been for 20 years). I can just ignore their tomfoolery and play the game how I want.
It doesn't matter much, the core game is pretty good and despite their best efforts to 86 it, it keeps on goin on because of the bone that were laid down a long time ago.
Eiryl is right but wrong. I'm right but wrong. As long as people are having fun its all good despite SE *** everything up.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3867
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 21:09:19
I thought the updates were every 6 hours starting on JP midnight.
 Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-12 21:15:58
"there are so many dailies that i hate but keep doing, why do they think i like doing dailies"
 Bismarck.Nickeny
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2217
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-12 21:25:33
By Hopalong 2023-12-12 21:26:05
Yeah, for me, I'm not doing extra dailies, I agree why do they think we want more? Who knows, SE is clearly out of sync? But they always have been so its old news.
I run sortie solo twice a week for 16k, sometimes solo kin, sometimes thief omen or thief key farm for gil.
I haven't seg farm in a year or more, nor any daily I guess for at least that long. Ambuscade I do five every five months. *** dailies, just not gonna do them on their timeline. On my terms for fun, when I want to.
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By Seun 2023-12-12 21:55:31
Yeah, for me, I'm not doing extra dailies, I agree why do they think we want more?
Not gonna earn points with this one, but alts and mules is why they think you want dailies. The people logging in all 16 characters on their account for goblin mystery box and daily login money. It has a larger impact than people think, especially considering how few people all of the accounts we're responsible for, actually represent...
By Hopalong 2023-12-12 22:01:38
Definitely, its what they are going for. Can't disagree since you are spot on about their calculations.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-12 23:03:38
Seems to update every 6 hours at 6 and 12
06am 20k
12pm 210k
06pm 260k 12am 330k
NA "prime time" netted 70k. L.O.L. Gonna have to pump those rookie numbers up stans
6am 421k
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 19647
By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-12-12 23:06:17
It aint happening fellas. Prolly get my HMP/Alex and 900 point deeds and dip myself.
I will say that I think the idea of Vana'bout is absolutely fine. The rewards don't have to be mindblowing since, at its core, it seems like it's just supposed to be bonus ***on top of what you'd normally get from whatever event the Bout is focusing on.
Where they *** up is the amount of daily time they expect someone to put into it as well as the astronomical expectation on the overall goal. Keep in mind that what we see now isn't even the full extent. To get those 6 extra days of campaigns they expect 50% on top of that 16.3m. Ambuscade is also one of the easiest, most accessible things they could possibly have. Imagine if they make one for Odyssey or Sortie and 75% of the objectives aren't doable by the average Joe.
Lower it down to 3 daily RoEs that give 3-4x the Plaudits and cut that overall goal by 66% and we've got something.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3867
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 23:52:48
Playerbase: Bring back alliance content
SE: Here's Vanabout, content designed for soloers
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 19647
By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-12-12 23:55:57
What I will say is this could (I'm not saying it 100% does) give insight into the actual number of active subscriptions/accounts/IDs. They had to derive these numbers from somewhere, and they could have very lazily based it off of the expected number of plaudits earned by a certain % of active accounts. This obviously fails to account for how many of those accounts are AH mules, alt accounts, burner accounts, RMT accounts, etc. etc.
Just a thought, anyway.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-13 00:02:10
That's exactly what they did. They're like oh geez, we got 200,000 "active characters" certainly 50k of them will do a couple ambuscades, they did billions of hallmarks last month.
The absolute delusional disconnect, not only failing to realize the "sub count" is dramatically lower that it appears, but the difference between a good ambu month and a dog turds month. And what constitutes a good reward and a jank reward.
Someone better get fired. Full Karen. (what's a Japanese Karen) Give the minimum effort deserving of the position.
 Asura.Yasova
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14
By Asura.Yasova 2023-12-13 00:10:24
Seems to update every 6 hours at 6 and 12
06am 20k
12pm 210k
06pm 260k 12am 330k
NA "prime time" netted 70k. L.O.L. Gonna have to pump those rookie numbers up stans
at this rate, its probably better to farm a prime than do this ***
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 440
By Asura.Dexprozius 2023-12-13 00:15:06
Someone better get fired.
Don't think they can fire 50% of their workforce over failed half-baked content, but lets get the torches and pitchforks ready to show them we mean business.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-13 00:35:26
By Tarage 2023-12-13 01:17:41
Yeah I'm not gonna do any of it. I could probably grind it out, but I don't want to. I'd rather send a message by not doing it than put a half *** effort into it.
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 Siren.Kruel
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 287
By Siren.Kruel 2023-12-13 02:39:55
So we're approaching the first 24 hours since Vanabout went live, and we're at: 338,980 / 16,275,000
So at this rate we're looking at ending on the 25th at around 4 million out of the 16 million.
Good job devs, way to know what you're doin' lol
Gotta think the past 24 hours was most likely to have the highest numbers too, with it being all new and shiny with people wanting to test it.
I could definitely see a downward trend happening with each passing day.
(Not advocating for people to push those numbers up, just having a laugh at what the hell the devs musta been smoking when they came up with that number, and those rewards as an incentive).
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 29
By Bahamut.Certainly 2023-12-13 03:57:33
So at this rate we're looking at ending on the 25th at around 4 million out of the 16 million.
Good job devs, way to know what you're doin' lol Are you saying we wont make it to the stretch goal of 24.412.500? o_O
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 Asura.Sechs
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10086
By Asura.Sechs 2023-12-13 03:58:26
No way!
By Tarage 2023-12-13 04:02:29
Bahamut.Certainly said: »So at this rate we're looking at ending on the 25th at around 4 million out of the 16 million.
Good job devs, way to know what you're doin' lol Are you saying we wont make it to the stretch goal of 24.412.500? o_O Oh jesus I forgot about that. No *** way in hell. Their math was absolutely ***.
By Seun 2023-12-13 04:03:48
Don't forget to talk to the Coordinator Moogle for your consolation prizes. The moogle gives a new trust magic Cipher:Fujito. A passive trust with an aura effect called "ruined the game". Please look forward to it™
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Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4454
By Cerberus.Kylos 2023-12-13 05:14:31
No wonder so many are paying for the sadistic treatment. SE is kinda hot!
By SimonSes 2023-12-13 06:37:14
I'm 99% sure they took the goal by checking Frog month results, which is stupid and lack knowledge indeed. I also agree on prizes being on the "meh" side. What I don't agree about is this being a problem to grind. You don't even need to grind it at once and just make 1x 15min ambu V2 to hit all objectives related with damage/healing and 2x 4min ambu V2 wins later during some small breaks to hit all objectives with doing 3 Ambu.
By Tarage 2023-12-13 07:21:44
The grind MIGHT be acceptable if it wasn't day locked.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-13 07:24:25
The grind MIGHT be acceptable if it wasn't day locked.
Doable, not acceptable
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By Bahamut.Certainly 2023-12-13 07:27:19
You don't even need to grind it at once and just make 1x 15min ambu V2 to hit all objectives related with damage/healing and 2x 4min ambu V2 wins later during some small breaks to hit all objectives with doing 3 Ambu. By small breaks you mean the 2+ hour wait queue, don't you?
By Seun 2023-12-13 07:59:31
I'm 99% sure they took the goal by checking Frog month results, which is stupid and lack knowledge indeed.
How would you know which characters are people and which are their mules dredging currency? No one should be surprised that they underestimated our willingness to pay for the prize.
Patch Notes
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/61297
Items
New Items - https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/December_2023_Version_Update_Changes
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