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December 2023 Version Update
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 13:32:43
No, the voyeurism is the best part. Also this thread is a great place for other people to gather info about the event, in case other people can't figure out how to heal for 300 HP in 2023.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 13:43:18
So far, the only two accounts of "its about 30 minutes to hit all the goals" is soloers, who can amass their own damage taken, who are the only ones casting, WSing, SCing, MBing etc etc the mob with limited HP.
Which brings us back here:
Do I:
Take chars on other jobs to do all the requirements? Ok, well now I'm doing extra runs, its not just 3 runs a day
Do I go solo and use trusts to tank? Ok, now I'm doing extra runs, its not just 3 runs a day.
All he has so far is his theorycraft of how quickly it will go with 6 PC's.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2023-12-12 13:46:10
So just play one character?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 13:47:11
1-This isnt Horizon
2-Then its not "30 minutes a day", is it?
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 13:49:54
I don't think you're actually looking for advice at this point, but if you are, here's what I would do:
Put everyone on /SCH. Each character can use their own HP set and cure themselves 10 times for 300 each. They can all set dark arts then nuke a mob for 500 30 times. One character makes a SC, all 6 MB it as many times as they can. Repeat until MBs are done. Take turns making SC until everyone has 10. Spam WS until everyone has 20.
You've completed all 10 objectives in one, maybe two ambus.
If you have RDM, SCH, DNC, SAM this is even easier, but YMMV depending on jobs.
Damage taken is a monthly objective so I would not bother tracking it until the end of the campaign, then see how far off I am. You can use my "Go in and die" strategy with all 6 characters at once, if you're having trouble completing that objective. You might find that it completes itself over the course of the month. We'll see!
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2023-12-12 13:50:08
1-This isnt Horizon
2-Then its not "30 minutes a day", is it? Idk why the horizon comment came up. But just seems like people bitching because they multibox and don't wanna do it on all names. If that's the case then don't. ?
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 13:52:06
mob with limited HP.
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All he has so far is his theorycraft of how quickly it will go with 6 PC's. My guy, do it instead of theorycrafting.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »You might find that it completes itself over the course of the month. 12 days = a month.
By Shiva.Myamoto 2023-12-12 13:56:21
Out of curiosity, I ventured into v2 just to get the daily objectives done and see what sort of time frame it would take daily.
SCH easily does all the objectives, but was still time consuming. Stopped after 1 clear of intentionally not killing quickly and just getting objectives. Was still 15 minutes or so. And that wasn't all of them before it died... majority of them, but still need to do win x3, don't die x3, a couple more ws's. All in all, to do all the objectives daily... probably a 30 minute venture at least, between getting KI minimum 3x.
Healing Trusts also counts as heal objective.
Personally I don't see myself doing it 3x unless its for points with a group. So I'll likely enter once on SCH, get those nonsense objectives out of the way and if I happen to be in an actual group farming points sometime that day then great. Otherwise just cut my losses on those x3 objectives daily.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 13:57:36
mob with limited HP.
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All he has so far is his theorycraft of how quickly it will go with 6 PC's. My guy, do it instead of theorycrafting.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »You might find that it completes itself over the course of the month. 12 days = a month.
12th-25th is 12 days now Hmmm, interesting nitpick though. Count these items:
12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25
If you're doing something for two weeks in December, would you be incorrect in saying that you're doing it throughout the course of the month? "Hey Jerry, I'll be working on that report for the next two weeks; I'll check in with you throughout the rest of the month and let you know how it's going." He's not going to be like "WTF *** you said two weeks, not a month" It's describing the period of time (this month) when you are doing something.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 13:59:22
wow
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 14:02:42
Also if we're moving goalposts, if you're doing it with 6 PCs then you're actually getting 6x the rewards, which makes it 6x as valuable. Are you going to take 3 hours to do 3 ambus now?
By Tarage 2023-12-12 14:04:27
My favorite thing is I did the math fully on page 2 and everyone ignored it.
Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2023-12-12 14:25:41
It'd be nice if objectives were spread out to other content in the game - not just Ambuscade.
Also the rewards are meh. Maybe just do enough for cosmetics and finish there. Sorry to everyone aiming for the goal lulz
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 14:39:05
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Also if we're moving goalposts, if you're doing it with 6 PCs then you're actually getting 6x the rewards, which makes it 6x as valuable. Are you going to take 3 hours to do 3 ambus now? No cause the rewards arent worth the effort. I said this already.
“Do 3 V2N every day, hope the rest of the players follow suit, just to have the effect of a seal once a day per difficulty”
Or I can just do 3 runs of V1VD a week and vastly usurp the HM/GA gains I would have made with the pre-christmas grind and not touch ambu outside of that window.
Two of the non-daily goals are total HM and GA, so youre gonna have to do those V1VDs anyways before the seal bonus kicks in, cause youre not reaching 36K hm on 3 V2N a day.
“But youre missing out on the dark matter or i-aby kupon”
~2 hours of grind for a 500k item? *** lol
Unless i-aby is atleast 5 items, its just not worth it. And thats being generous.
“But youre missing out on the exemplar points”
A very very very shitty group should muster atleast 20k/hr. Theres no way the 1300 exemplar reward is 140k exemplar points.
“But the extra 3-6 days of campaign”
I already said that theres only one campaign where having extra days is worth the grind, unfortunately you dont know what next months campaigns will be. It could be darkmatter plus, or it could be 10 dud events. Not to mention vanabout roundtwo will take place during the next campaign as well.
“But the 100 deeds”
Yes, ill risk those.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 14:42:49
Also Tarage said its only one reward in total, not one per tier?
He said 5 bronze (i-aby is totally one item per kupon lol) and one of silver or gold.
Is that correct?
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By Asura.Iamaman 2023-12-12 14:48:52
I'm just interested in seeing what kind of disappointed daddy comment Fujito is gonna make during next months update notes if (when?) we miss the goal by a huge margin.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 14:49:57
Quote: The more plaudits you accumulate during the challenge period, the more rewards you can choose from, with the prize tiers ranging from Bronze to Gold. You can select one reward from each tier that you meet the conditions for.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 14:55:48
For campaigns people would want extended, that will depend where you're at in the game. I think they break down something like this:
Gil farming stuff:
Ambu gallantry campaign
AMAN trove
Macro orb/HTBF
Delve
Statue Crusher
NNI
Voidwatch
WoE
Progressing your character:
CP/EXP
Skillups
Crafting skillups
Unity
Vagary
Omen
Mog Garden
Incursion
GF
DM Augs (Thanks Nynja!)
For my part, I'd be mostly concerned with the first set, though I could see people being interested in the second half.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2023-12-12 14:57:18
People keep saying the rewards aren't worth it. The rewards aren't worth it for YOU for others it maybe. Dark matter is useless to me always has been and will be never got ***from it does it mean people shouldn't do it? Like if it's not worth it for you go do something else.
Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-12 14:57:25
I'm just interested in seeing what kind of disappointed daddy comment Fujito is gonna make during next months update notes if (when?) we miss the goal by a huge margin.
Due to the fact players didn't do what we asked we are now shutting the game down. If you wish to play ffxi you can continue playing on HorizonXI - We will now have the new lead developer Aerec-P take over. Please look forward to it.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2023-12-12 15:03:51
I know this is guzzling copium but I would like to think if this one goes well, maybe they'll give something actually good: EP campaign, Odyssey RP/segment campaigns, and (really chugging it here) Sortie galli.
new lead developer Aerec-P take over
The promotion comes with an additional 'P' making him 'Aeric-PP'
....sorry.
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 15:14:12
Bahamut.Justthetip said: »People keep saying the rewards aren't worth it. The rewards aren't worth it for YOU for others it maybe. Dark matter is useless to me always has been and will be never got ***from it does it mean people shouldn't do it? Like if it's not worth it for you go do something else. I literally said twice that dark matter plus is probably the only campaign worth the grind of extending (cause its a daily lockout), and then he references this exact campaign event as “its not worth it for YOU”
I cant even.
Inb4: “hes not talkin to you”
Hes replied to me every time in this thread.
Yes dyna and omen also have their own lockout. Statue crusher aint ***, sorry but half a stack of rusted and black cards aint doin much. omen card is indeed solid for someone who needs card still, an extra 3 days is like 5 or 6 extra cards.
Nothing else is time gated. If you need plasm, just do *** delve when the campaign is there instead of vanabout, hoping it will be there next month. You need REMA stones, do HTMB when the campaign is live, dont waste your time on vanabout hoping itll pop up next month.
You are literally not doing X, just to have more time to do X.
By Tarage 2023-12-12 15:16:00
Also Tarage said its only one reward in total, not one per tier?
He said 5 bronze (i-aby is totally one item per kupon lol) and one of silver or gold.
Is that correct?
Apologies, this is an assumption, not a fact. Based on the numbers that's what it looked like to me.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-12 15:17:34
I mean...if you bring an alliance of characters (my alliance is always 18/18 for every statue crusher) that's 12 free Kindreds and 12 free Beastmens per dynamis run. Not exactly something to sneeze at.
If it's statue crusher+ you're talking dozens and dozens of free medals. I mean, if you don't think it's that big of a deal, you can give me 25 medals twice a week. I think it's quite a nice bonus, and would love to have two more dynamis runs with that bonus.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-12 15:20:35
Statue crusher and statue crusher plus are vastly different in terms of reward potential.
If youre looking gil potential, im pretty sure wave 3 >>>> statue crusher wave 1&2. I could be wrong though, i didnt run any numbers. It also depends how many characters are yours to funnel all the personal loot to.
Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-12 16:20:13
I think that is the real sad part about this Vanatrash
If I am playing ffxi I have a goal in mind. I do nothing but that goal. My goals are REMA, Grind out a Job till its playable in the content I want it in, V25 etc Blah blah blah
This vana ***sounds like a *** chore I want no part of.
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By waffle 2023-12-12 16:25:07
I went ahead and checked the coordinator moogle. The 1300+ plaudit reward section lists the options as 13000 exemplar points, or 13000 exp, or 100 job points or the three boxes.
Oddly, there's also an "overall rewards" section that offers 10000 exemplar points or 10000 exp.
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By Meeble 2023-12-12 16:27:38
Leave it to SE to f*ck up implementing a monthly free battle pass.
If the rewards were good(Bonanza weapons, rainbow pells, big muffins) then adding new daily objectives/chores to work towards them would be fine.
If the scope of the objectives was relaxed(weekly vs daily, not ambu specific) to where players could hit them while playing their usual content, then having mediocre or just 'nice-to-have' rewards is fine.
As is? Worst of both; They're asking players to spend a solid chunk of time doing new daily chores for relatively mediocre rewards. If you enjoy it, more power to you, but this feels like a continuation of the post-Sortie trend of SE having zero respect for its players' time.
Quetzalcoatl.Khajit
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khajit 2023-12-12 16:45:01
There any info on how many and what abyssea items come with a Kupon?
I'm not even going to pretend to be able to get above bronze on my mules with the insane amount of time this crap would take.
Patch Notes
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/61297
Items
New Items - https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/December_2023_Version_Update_Changes
Not streaming tonight. Built a new PC but havent gotten the chance to setup streaming shit.
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