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By Meeble 2023-12-14 17:34:41
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
I love some of the comments

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Thank you for your hard work.
I'm not going to do it anymore.

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Can you please stop engaging with the daily?
I'm not a NEET.

The most remarkable thing about it is that XI has multiple solid weekly/monthly reset objective systems they could have used as a model for something successful. Can't even say it's daily for the sake of metrics either, since the event is only active for half the month.

Vanabout's current design belongs on a fridge somewhere.

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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-14 17:40:54
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Since they ruined my god damn fun, fight about how bad the jp are kicking your ***
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-12-14 17:42:17
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i wouldnt be surprised if the JP playerbase (actual human players, not bots and alts) is 2x or more of NA and EU combined
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By Manque 2023-12-14 18:02:45
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I;m more partial to this JP comment+

ヴァナバウトと言うよりヴァナアウトだね。

Vanabout? More like VanaOUT!
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By Cevlina 2023-12-14 18:14:05
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I'm NA but I'm taking advantage of queue times being shorter during lunch to do it then.

Sorry!
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By Shenaniganz 2023-12-14 18:36:33
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Manque said: »
I;m more partial to this JP comment+

ヴァナバウトと言うよりヴァナアウトだね。

Vanabout? More like VanaOUT!

The ダジャレ is too strong for me, I'm cringing at my desk.
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By Tarage 2023-12-14 20:20:41
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Manque said: »
I;m more partial to this JP comment+

ヴァナバウトと言うよりヴァナアウトだね。

Vanabout? More like VanaOUT!

Man I posted about that like 5 pages ago and everyone ignored it...
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-12-14 20:21:17
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cause ur an NA baka
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2023-12-14 22:13:42
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Might have missed it here, but does anyone know how the rewards work? Is it like Deeds where you reach a threshold and you can claim everything under that category once? Or do you SPEND the plaudits? And if you spend them, can you repeat buy or one time only?

Posted in the "Van about" thread but didnt get an answer.
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By drakefs 2023-12-14 22:22:33
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you do not spend the point but you can only select one prize per tier
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By Tarage 2023-12-14 22:27:51
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
cause ur an NA baka
No I mean I literally said they said it on the forum.

Tarage said: »
Well, I guess the consolidation is the JP side thinks it's impossible and hates it too. They coined a hilarious phrase for it too.

It's not Vana'bout, it's Vana'out.

See?
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2023-12-14 22:38:06
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drakefs said: »
you do not spend the point but you can only select one prize per tier

Given the nature of it, you should just get the whole tier if you reach it. God forbid lol
Thanks for the answer
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-14 23:07:06
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-15 06:57:00
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2023-12-15 07:12:51
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Thank you for keeping us updated so consistently Eiryl the GOAT

This ***show has been very fun to watch unfold thanks to stuff like this
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By fillerbunny9 2023-12-15 07:38:03
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Thank you for keeping us updated so consistently Eiryl the GOAT

This ***show has been very fun to watch unfold thanks to stuff like this

and it is far more fun than actually doing the event itself. I am looking forward to next month to see how they thoroughly botch this again, at this point.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2023-12-15 08:11:10
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They've done such a splendid job of uniting the player base with this. No, nobody's doing Vana'bout, but everybody is watching it crash and burn with a bag of popcorn in hand.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-15 09:42:53
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2023-12-15 10:59:19
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Things like this are why I still come here to read stuff even though I haven't played in over a year
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By Bosworth 2023-12-15 11:03:58
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Y'all super negative. Watch them come in with the EP campaign for round 2 of vana bout
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-15 11:28:05
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It's 12:30 13:00 14:00 15:00 and it still didn't update
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-15 11:38:24
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Bosworth said: »
Y'all super negative. Watch them come in with the EP campaign for round 2 of vana bout
And watch people actually participate in Vana'Bout when the rewards are worth the effort.

Most people are not doing content just because its there. yes massa, thank you pankration massa, another massa. yes massa, thank you monstrosity massa, another massa.

Monstrosity was fun for a bit tho, ngl. But when people found out what the payoff was, it got dropped by the playerbase.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-15 12:31:34
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Super negative is everything SE has done in the last 2 years. Trash prime grind was the *** cherry on top.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2023-12-15 13:11:39
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Bosworth said: »
Y'all super negative. Watch them come in with the EP campaign for round 2 of vana bout

That's the point though, right? Negativity because there's not a good reward in place for the grind? People will shut up if the next round is actually rewarding, but you SHOULD complain if the game makers are expecting you to do something obnoxious and the rewards are no better than what you could get elsewhere, for less effort.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2023-12-15 13:22:09
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Bosworth said: »
Y'all super negative. Watch them come in with the EP campaign for round 2 of vana bout

That's the point though, right? Negativity because there's not a good reward in place for the grind? People will shut up if the next round is actually rewarding, but you SHOULD complain if the game makers are expecting you to do something obnoxious and the rewards are no better than what you could get elsewhere, for less effort.

an EP campaign next month would be even MORE annoying

it's the new Cornelia Trust
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By Asura.Iamaman 2023-12-15 13:23:49
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Did they confirm it was going to be a monthly thing or just something they do irregularly?
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By Meeble 2023-12-15 13:52:59
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Bosworth said: »
Y'all super negative. Watch them come in with the EP campaign for round 2 of vana bout

That's the point though, right? Negativity because there's not a good reward in place for the grind? People will shut up if the next round is actually rewarding, but you SHOULD complain if the game makers are expecting you to do something obnoxious and the rewards are no better than what you could get elsewhere, for less effort.

Bingo.

Nobody is calling for Fujito's head over this. He clearly cares about keeping the game alive and making things more accessible for new/future players, but he's badly out of touch with or just doesn't care about the veteran player base. That's not going to change without pushback. If they roll Vanabout round 2 with something players actually want and are willing to work for, game on.

To head off any "what do you expect in maintenance mode" arguments; The issues with Vanabout are not due to a lack of time or resources, just the specific choices made during development.
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By Bosworth 2023-12-15 13:59:03
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Push back will change absolutely nothing, it's wild that this isn't understood yet lol
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-12-15 14:03:50
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Pushback will and has changed things. It's just very hard to get an addict to say no to their meth.
(even if it will result in slightly better meth as a result)

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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-12-15 14:04:04
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It's wild you haven't understood most people gave up expecting anything of value from SE and this Vana "slouch" pretty much cemented that notion.

By all means, tell me more about how bitching isn't going to fix anything while I play Cyberpunk in 4k skipping doing anything other than V25 stuff since they dropped the ball with sortie/primes/endgame
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