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Ixion Lore and Proc Attempts
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 16:42:09
I went in again, same conditions as before but this time I was focused on his horn. It broke after 14 auras. His health was ~10%. I was going to swap into different weapons but I got myself killed before I could see if the chest dropped :P So pissed lol
Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 16:50:10
I went in again, same conditions as before but this time I was focused on his horn. It broke after 14 auras. His health was ~10%. I was going to swap into different weapons but I got myself killed before I could see if the chest dropped :P So pissed lol
Did you see if it broke on a crit?
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 17:31:30
I went in again, same conditions as before but this time I was focused on his horn. It broke after 14 auras. His health was ~10%. I was going to swap into different weapons but I got myself killed before I could see if the chest dropped :P So pissed lol
Did you see if it broke on a crit?
I unfortunately did not. My hope was to put enspell up, slap my almace on and 3k tp + SC big numbers to see if chest still dropped. I am very certain that the horn broke while aura was up - I was spamming only fast blade WS.
I think my next attempt I'll just kick his *** down to 15%, then try and break horn with low damage ws's or crit hits and then kill to see if chest pops.
By klayy 2023-07-31 17:48:14
Ixion #1 I tried... still dont have the aura/out of aura stuff down. But I flipped him like 7 times... including 2x under 15% had rogues up most of the fight, evis etc etc a few savages. Horn never broke. Took like 18 minutes to kill.
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Shiva.Flowen
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By Shiva.Flowen 2023-07-31 17:54:46
If it was just crits with aura up there would be loads of reports of it breaking by pure chance
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By klayy 2023-07-31 18:12:46
0/3 idk august and monberaux might interfere. did them on 2nd one, only saw horn charge 4 times.
Third try i saw more charges... upwards of 8 for sure. I tried to savage him down out of aura, give him time to use a tp move or two within aura then after like 30 seconds if aura didnt go away i savaged. Sometimes aura dropped instantly after lightning spear or wrath of zeus. I saw damsel take it at leats twice. But yeah even trying to limit WS during aura, horn never breaks. No box.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 18:20:57
Ixion #1 I tried... still dont have the aura/out of aura stuff down. But I flipped him like 7 times... including 2x under 15% had rogues up most of the fight, evis etc etc a few savages. Horn never broke. Took like 18 minutes to kill.
In about an hour I'm going to bring in an alt with a crit set that I can swap into. I'll take him down to like 15% ish, swap into crit set and see if it breaks while aura is up. Kill after horn breaks will yield chest hopefully.
By klayy 2023-07-31 18:24:00
Ive tried to at least simulate the accounts but its just not there. I dont see any pattern to horn charge use. It doesnt do it every 50K or whatever. I did 4 today... think I saw charge 7, 4, 8 and 1 times. I mean it just cant take this long, period. There's no way. I think you have to break the horn to getthe box... but repeated horn charges dont seem to impact that in the slightest.
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Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 18:38:26
Ixion #1 I tried... still dont have the aura/out of aura stuff down. But I flipped him like 7 times... including 2x under 15% had rogues up most of the fight, evis etc etc a few savages. Horn never broke. Took like 18 minutes to kill.
In about an hour I'm going to bring in an alt with a crit set that I can swap into. I'll take him down to like 15% ish, swap into crit set and see if it breaks while aura is up. Kill after horn breaks will yield chest hopefully.
We just tried crits, its either not that or a ridiculous number meaning minimum of 10 minute fight.
Next try we are going in with weaker weapons (99 tops) and just gonna go ham on him and see what happens, so if we can force it more often.
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By klayy 2023-07-31 18:48:31
I kinda wonder if you could like try to break it by using a WS as the charge animation goes off. But that sounds annoying.
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By klayy 2023-07-31 20:14:39
JP twitter guy has some like testing info up now. on phone tho cant translate em rn https://twitter.com/DewyFf11
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By klayy 2023-07-31 20:42:08
"F talisman follow-up test This time I confirmed the corner breakage.
When I held the tag myself and hit the sabe repeatedly, it broke when I noticed it. (I noticed when I had about 30% HP left)
and check the box.
Cut ws a certain number of times with a stick? match something?
Even if you call Varen and hit Sabe repeatedly, it won't come out.
Even if you hit the letter repeatedly, the box will not come out.
Please continue to cooperate with the verification team."
"F Talisman Supplementary Exam 2
I have a target, I have a support face, can I break the corner with just a fast blade?
→ It broke, it took about 3k and it took about 20% HP, I stopped counting halfway through, but I'm sure it's over 100 times.
→ box pop
Isn't it the number of ws?
I was doing it absentmindedly, so I don't know if it's charged or not"
"F Amulet Supplementary Exam 3
Sword/Samurai Poetry Kogaku Yoran fire ere and sub-tage to the horse WS frontal & hostile holding hitting sword only WS hard 6k ~ 8k, demi 20k mixed shaving
From less than 10% of HP remaining, only hard is used and the corner is broken and the box is popped.
No NM charging when the corner is bent, WS middle & no stance front (or target owner) cutting WS no fixed amount?"
"Please take a look at the person who uploaded the video,
Almost almost "cutting WS from the front is useless, scraping more than 50% and folding the corner"
Is not it."
Hmmm lol
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 20:52:48
"F talisman follow-up test This time I confirmed the corner breakage.
When I held the tag myself and hit the sabe repeatedly, it broke when I noticed it. (I noticed when I had about 30% HP left)
and check the box.
Cut ws a certain number of times with a stick? match something?
Even if you call Varen and hit Sabe repeatedly, it won't come out.
Even if you hit the letter repeatedly, the box will not come out.
Please continue to cooperate with the verification team."
"F Talisman Supplementary Exam 2
I have a target, I have a support face, can I break the corner with just a fast blade?
→ It broke, it took about 3k and it took about 20% HP, I stopped counting halfway through, but I'm sure it's over 100 times.
→ box pop
Isn't it the number of ws?
I was doing it absentmindedly, so I don't know if it's charged or not"
"F Amulet Supplementary Exam 3
Sword/Samurai Poetry Kogaku Yoran fire ere and sub-tage to the horse WS frontal & hostile holding hitting sword only WS hard 6k ~ 8k, demi 20k mixed shaving
From less than 10% of HP remaining, only hard is used and the corner is broken and the box is popped.
No NM charging when the corner is bent, WS middle & no stance front (or target owner) cutting WS no fixed amount?"
"Please take a look at the person who uploaded the video,
Almost almost "cutting WS from the front is useless, scraping more than 50% and folding the corner"
Is not it."
Hmmm lol
What in the actual fu*k? Also, totally stole my idea with the fast blade
LOL j/k
By klayy 2023-07-31 20:53:17
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By klayy 2023-07-31 20:54:20
I feel like the horn is up at the start and then gets broken right as it dies.
By klayy 2023-07-31 20:57:04
I feel like "corner" just means horn now lol
By klayy 2023-07-31 21:05:40
Another guy who is doing testing. Might be worth monitoring https://twitter.com/strikeret/status/1686164193840676867
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Asura.Cthaeh
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-31 21:10:16
Looks like B2B Savage Blades are what broke the horn here.
But they are saying multiple WS under 1500 is how they are doing it. One guy says 100+ which cant be right
By Manque 2023-07-31 21:14:08
Consensus from JP Twitter so far is they think it’s related to WS from the front during aura to break the horn and 50% of total dmg being done during aura. Nothing conclusive yet though.
https://youtu.be/Prs8n5RwduY
https://twitter.com/search?q=F%E8%AD%B7%E7%AC%A6&src=typed_query&f=live
By klayy 2023-07-31 21:41:58
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By klayy 2023-07-31 21:44:24
Consensus from JP Twitter so far is they think it’s related to WS from the front during aura to break the horn and 50% of total dmg being done during aura. Nothing conclusive yet though.
Well we've seen savage, fast blade and vorpal succeed. I mean forcing it into aura then unloading on it would at least be a quick kill. I was doing the opposite WSing when it was clean then waiting for it to drop aura before continuing. Still not sure what charges the horn but, once charged, if I could then flip to leaden and unleash hell..
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 22:03:35
I feel like the horn is up at the start and then gets broken right as it dies.
I don't think it breaks as he dies - I got killed from him (quite stupidly I might add) after having broken his horn. He was at around 10% health.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 22:05:45
If it was just crits with aura up there would be loads of reports of it breaking by pure chance
Yea I think there's a decent chance it's "do WS damage below X-threshold damage"?
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-31 22:10:03
Your text to link here...
Has anyone seen this video? Shows a couple of people doing low-ish damage WSs and shows them breaking his horn. Seems likely that in order to break his horn, you need to do a low damage ws.
By klayy 2023-07-31 22:54:36
I tried to break down the 9 minute kill video. More confused now than I was prior. I feel like I see the charge happen only 3 times... at 2:56 at 4:47 and 8:19 first 2 instances they maybe get 3-4 savages off. The last one the ixion killed its own aura almost instantly by using wrath of zeus I think. I cant see any way they did more than 25% of the dmg with the aura up. And on top of that, the horn break happens out of aura around 9:09. I feel like the pace of their savages was pretty consistent. Like the frequency in and out of aura wasn't noticeably different to me.
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By klayy 2023-07-31 23:05:09
Longer video horn break is out of aura also. Only correlation I can see if it appears to use the charge then immediately hit wrath of zeus... 16~17 min area then does another charge fairly quick and dump that aura quickly with what looks like lightning spear. Within the next 30-40 secs, they break him.
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2023-07-31 23:31:41
From the two videos, it looks like aura may have nothing to do with it.
There seems to be a chance to break his horn with a low damage ws, between 3-9k? (guessing that range). After horn is broken you can throw everything at it. In one video after they broke the horn he switched to leaden salute (20k+ ws), and skillchained (40k+ darkness) on it, and still got the metal.
So elemental damage is ok.
Skillchains are ok.
High ws damage is ok.
The only thing you need to do is break the horn first.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2023-08-01 00:00:39
Maybe it's not break but slice?
I see a lot of slashing dmg.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-08-01 00:23:21
If reports earlier in the thread are to be believed, a MNK has done it
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2023-08-01 00:24:05
I just tried an attempt throwing a bunch of low damage weaponskills at it until horn broke - and got metal!
BLU/RDM with support roll only COR.
Used Expiacion to keep AM3 up with tizona.
then spammed vorpal blade.
3452 Vorpal Blade broke the horn.
The aura was down ( had been for quite a while ) when the horn broke.
After horn broke killed it as fast as I could and got metal.
Took almost 20 minutes though - there must be a faster way to break the horn.
I had a revelation last night. What if Ixion from historical greek mythology has the actual hint/ answer to proccing Ixion? See below post copy and pasted from wikipedia and my guesses at possible Ixion proc:
Ixion married Dia,[1] a daughter of Deioneus (or Eioneus), and promised his father-in-law a valuable present. However, he did not pay the bride price, so Deioneus stole [2] some of Ixion's horses in retaliation. Ixion concealed his resentment and invited his father-in-law to a feast at Larissa. When Deioneus arrived, Ixion pushed him into a bed of burning coals and wood [3]. These circumstances are secondary to the fact of Ixion's primordial act of murder; it could be accounted for quite differently: in the Greek Anthology (iii.12), among a collection of inscriptions from a temple in Cyzicus, is an epigrammatic description of Ixion slaying Phorbas and Polymelos, who had slain his mother, Megara, the "great one".
Ixion went mad, defiled by his act; the neighboring princes were so offended by this act of treachery and violation of xenia that they refused to perform the rituals that would cleanse Ixion of his guilt (see catharsis)[4]. Thereafter, Ixion lived as an outlaw and was shunned. By killing his father-in-law, Ixion was reckoned the first man guilty of kin-slaying in Greek mythology.
This act alone would warrant Ixion a terrible punishment, but Zeus took pity on Ixion and brought him to Olympus and introduced him at the table of the gods. Instead of being grateful, Ixion grew lustful for Hera, Zeus's wife, a further violation of guest–host relations. Zeus found out about his intentions and made a cloud in the shape of Hera, which became known as Nephele (from nephos "cloud") and tricked Ixion into coupling with it. From the union of Ixion and the false-Hera cloud came Imbros or Centauros, who mated with the Magnesian mares on Mount Pelion, Pindar told, engendering the race of Centaurs, who are called the Ixionidae from their descent.
Ixion was expelled from Olympus and blasted with a thunderbolt [5]. Zeus ordered Hermes to bind Ixion to a winged fiery wheel [6] [7] that was always spinning. Therefore, Ixion was bound to a burning solar wheel for all eternity, at first spinning across the heavens, but in later myth transferred to Tartarus [8]. Only when Orpheus [9] played his lyre during his trip to the Underworld to rescue Eurydice did it stop for a while [10][11].
[1] Cast Dia on Ixion (Dia 1? Dia 2? Light Shot?)
[2] Steal, Mug, or Despoil the Horse?
[3] Craft near Ixion... so he can be pushed in?
[4] Cast onto Ixion, Cure, Erase, Viruna, Esuna, Holy, Holy II?
[5] Have a BLU use Thunderbolt (Learned from behemoth) on Ixion
[6] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion starting with Fire (Fire > Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice)
[7] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion ending with Fire
(Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice > Fire)
[8] Cast Banish on Ixion to banish him to Tartarus...
[9] Equip an Orpheus Sash While playing a harp song near Ixion
[10] Sing a song while engaged on Ixion using a harp
[11] Sing a song debuff on Ixion using a harp
Please let one of the above memes actually be the answer.
Happy (proc) hunting
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