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 Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-02-14 17:51:46
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Genoxd said: »
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I used Soil Gorget instead of Fotia because my alt didn't have any of them.

Here's some 1k data points, I'll start working on 3k. I assume this is close enough to a 5% spread?

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I believe this is currently sitting at 4.44~4.48 fTP @1k and 13.8~14.1 fTP @3k. If I did the math right

I updated my post with more data. I'll keep going, just had a break from collecting for a bit

Something feels weird about these WSs or SE stopped using nice numbers. I get Lorg Mor as a ~38% STR/MND mod (or 40% STR or MND, 35% MND or STR) and 4.25 at 1000TP scaling to 14.875 at 3000 TP.

You can use your gorget tests to determine that you have between 467 and 477 base damage. Stage 4 Lorg should be 260 with fSTR, so that's 207 to 217 WSC. The weapon gives +30 STR/MND, so it seems unlikely it would be uneven. Did SE give it 45% STR/MND mods and reintroduce the WSC level scaling factor (iirc 0.83 the last time I dealt with it)?

Anyway, using that base damage range you end up with something near the fTPs I proposed above.
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By Odin.Bolmster 2026-02-15 09:42:51
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Byrth,

Welcome back, I have been following your posts for years. Glad to have you helping with this.

One thing I notice is that everyone's approach is slightly different. We all get very similar answers but dialing in the final answer seems out of reach.

Also, I think we may be using slightly different inputs unknowingly. For example, in your WSC calculation for Maru kala you got 282 WSC with 40% STR/DEX. I actual use the equation WSC = floor (floor((A x A%) + (B x B%)) x α) which gives me 283! I don't know if there is a source that has figured out which is right but I bet there could be several discrepancies like this between all the contributors. If anyone knows if there was in detail testing on where the flooring happens in WSC calc please link it, otherwise I can try collecting some data.

Finally, it would probably really help to have a centralized spreadsheet that has a lot of these calculations and an approach that we all can agree on. Some of the JP "X" posts show good examples of how visualization can help. Probably google sheets is best since most people don't pay for excel. Then its just a matter of collecting the data. I'm not volunteering you for this... just thought I'd put it out there.
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