May 2023 Version Update (Part 2)

you need to have the KI from defeating chaos for him to give you items.

From what I've seen people saying, you can talk to the point in xarc once per weekly reset to exchange rings.

Any idea what their job layout is?

I do A+E and basement chests for +1 chances. I don't think C would be hard for me to fit in. I've never done G.

We discussed this last night some. I think they could have reduced the time in there to 30 minutes and made it alliance content. They'd have to tweak the chests and item distribution to accommodate but you could have different groups running to do different objectives.

This has a 0% chance of ever happening. They see no issue with the way Sortie is implemented, so there is no chance this is ever going to change.


Thanks for asking this. I'm always curious when content like this is released what the perspective is of the JP community, esp since it seems SE takes in more of their feedback.

No please leave it as it is, it actually works and its fun.

May ask for a (so-called) prime-npc which trades gil into any event points on a 100:1 ratio. Nothing new to spend gil on since years tho. We`d see K.clubs for 80M after a few months ^^

that wont be fun jesus :(

I think morbol can be stunned on pop? That may or may not be enough but that's something you could try. As for Kamihr, you just need to take the device to port to outer Ra'kazner (Vagary warp) and then exit to Kamihr and the pop is right there.

Our 3 player route is about 33k. Party of Sam, Cor and Brd (Cor and Brd dualboxed).

Go in, straight to E. Kill the botulus and get KI to prevent taint (most damage from the back gives chest, kill shot from back not required. SC dmg doesnt count as damage from the back. Just use sirvante and dirge and leaden spam on cor from behind). Have to wait a few for naaks to pop before entering boss.

E boss - SV songs, rolls, multistep it down. Cor cutting cards brd as soon as they have SV/Clarion (this will make sure it is up for G boss).

Should have plenty of time left on SV songs - run to E naaks and kill those (sam multistep).

Exit E, base warp > acuex for KIs. Cor does kill shots with nin spells, Sam and Cor get them down to 5% for kill shot fast with Kagero and leaden (wiz roll). Kill the obdella if he's about, if not catch him elsewhere later.

A boss, sam multistep. Exit warp to B. Get chest from fire eles to trigger porxie red (fudo > leaden). Kill porxie if he is around or catch it elsewhere later.

Run to C doors from B (can split for coverage of C zone). Kill Bhoot for red chest. Then go kill C boss (sam multistep). Run to ghosts, mb 3 then kill (usually just do dia or nin magic from cor) to get first KI. We leave second and just take haunt (not an issue with bolters/mazurka).

Now run to C > warp D. Find fomor NM and kill, kill 3 random fomors for red. If you havent found and killed obdella and porxie nm on your travels (usually have by now), find and kill for your reds and aurum chest.

Run to G, stare at blitzer for a chest. SV/clarion will be back up by now > full dd buffs on sam, can buff the trusts with staggering. Sam multistep it down and yaegasumi at 50%. Brd can support with heals.

My only problem is that you need stage 3 to test the weaponskill. 1 month of work to test a weaponskill, but you can't even test the aftermath. But to be fair, original relics worked that way too, no idea what the weaponskill would do until you unlocked the inside dynamis version. Every other REMA since then, we had alternate ways of unlocking the weaponskills. I'm going to make the staff first because there is finally a good nuking REMA for sch and I'm hoping that after 21 years SE has learned how make a good staff weaponskill for mages. It gives me hope that this staff is not a melee staff like claustrum and khatvanga.

You can test it in Sortie along with the weaponskill.

I'm not so sure you can, the stage 3 weapons don't have aftermath on the item description.

If you check changed items in the OP. They added AM to the stage 3 weapons. I know the DAT doesn't show but if that change is correct as I assume it to be then we'll be able to test AM in Sortie with stage 3.

Starting saving up a million Galli, wait for the first people to finish, check FFXIAH forums, then decide on which one to make. Its only 20k Galli to swap weapons at this point.

It's assuming a fair bit that there'll be an active poster willing to guinea pig their darling weapon type... for every one. And that said people will be able / willing to perform tests to determine the WS's traits.

Would've been far better for everyone to make stage 3's requirements more modest, and increase 4 & 5 as necessary. Doesn't even follow any logic to go from 10k galli required to 1m. Would've made more sense for stage 3 to be 100k.

This is what I was expecting, it gives people more room to experiment and decide what they want. 10k -> 1m is ridiculous.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if their goal was for this to be a 75-cap relic type grind. They already gave us the ML grind to appease people who, for some reason, wanted that old style exp experience. This adds a weapon category that requires a significant commitment of time, likely up to a year on average, and you really have to full send (blindly at this point) with your choice or lose a lot of time/progress.

Maybe they were thinking "maybe people won't feel like the new Ultimate weapons are particularly epic if they complete a stage day 1 with materials they had already farmed before the patch"?

I'm sure it could've been balanced differently, but I don't think there's any world in which it's a satisfying experience to log in to find out you already accidently completed a stage of your ultimate weapon in the last patch. I mean, they're not the most epic weapons in the game but like...the shield and the instrument would be marked improvements to log in to find out I already finished.

Many people have said it but the Sortie direct drops are just a complete waste if they aren't a significant part of the upgrade process. 100k or some similarly trivial amount of gallimaufry is perfectly fine if you also need 25 octahedrites. It's like if the Relic upgrade process consisted of collecting an attestation and a fragment except the fragment was also a 100% drop from attestation NMs.

10k > 10k item > 100k items > 1mil items > 5mil items sounds pretty solid to me. It's a similar amount and lines up pretty nicely. In terms of pure numbers, 10m probably works better, but *** that....

Who wouldn't like that except for gatekeepers?

Don't worry, they'll fix it with a double muffin campaign.

/s

Still waiting for a Sinister reign enhanced or double drops campaign... It's about ten years past when it mattered, as per standard.

Their point is that it makes the second item completely pointless.

In the case of prime weapons, stage 3 requires 2 Octahedrite and 1,000,000 gallimaufry. Octahedrites are as common as Eikondrites were, ergo we're all going to have many dozens of useless Octahedrites by the time we fulfill the requisite gallimaufry. The currency ratio makes no sense and renders Octahedrites a waste of space. On top of all the negative effects of making gallimaufry the primary currency sink (i.e. people are now unable to upgrade empyrean armor without setting their Prime progress back considerably).

Wrong area to post, but how long is TVR take to complete?

We got 0 in 2 runs, so not that common. I still expect to get 2 easily before 1M Galli though.

I was wondering about the supposed competition for gallaumafry between prime and empy gear.

My guess is that at some point they will make those upgrade mats to be bazaarable, and exchangable for some sizable amount of gallamaufry.

Then people will farm those stones and sell for others to convert in gallaumafry thus heating economy, whats normally the maub goal of ultimate weapons

I obviously misunderstand something about the WS wall. How are you not triggering it?

Well that name seems to fit a bit better now.

Don't use the same WS twice in a row.