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Sortie Release - Info
By Chimerawizard 2022-08-18 10:41:18
So we tried Leshonn last night, and someone in the group was missing the plate metal so he was in hard mode,
So everyone needs a plate metal for the effect to actually work? How does someone in the party not get the plate metal? there's three ways:
1: they got the metal in a previous run without him.
2: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 spawned.
3: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 was opened.
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By Asura.Aldolol 2022-08-18 10:45:06
I don't mind the queue, I do mind the stupid server capacity and disconnect issues, I've not been able to stay in for more than 30 minutes now before I just get disconnected and either can't get back into the instance or I do get back but cannot reinvite people. It wouldn't be so bad but when I disconnected on one of the characters I checked the zone and there was only 48 people in my particular part of the instance. That's not even that many, so it's just piss poor servers once again. It's honestly an experience I'd expect in a free to play MMO, not one that costs.
The comment of "lol Asura" isn't exactly something that flies either, I am not in control of who or what they let onto the server it's their responsibility if it's at capacity to stop people making a character or transferring here. But let's be real, they only care about milking as much money as possible out of people with this game.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-08-18 10:45:43
2 hours to 4 hours wait time QUEUE IS NORMAL EXCUSE ME some of us work and have families what DO YOU MEAN ITS NORMAL have you only been playing FFXI the past 5 years??
Just imagine you're a DRG, in ToAU, and you've got your party flag on... :P
By Asura.Disclai 2022-08-18 10:47:58
Couple logistical questions mostly pertaining to Asura but seeing if anyone had any experience:
Do you have to enter with the same 6 players you queue with?
Can your party zone out/back in while in queue without losing place(ie get meds/job change)?
No, you can queue with alts filling the party and then invite your actual party members mid-queue.
Your party members can also zone out and change jobs etc. while in line. Only the party leader must stay the same and in zone at all times.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »For people that don't see the leech, when I went last night, it spawned in the rooms to the south of the start point and was initially outside of my widescan range.
Both times we've entered, the Obdella NM hasn't been popped at all, this is with constant wide scanning and full clearing each area.
It can however seemingly be force popped by using the gadget to respawn abject enemies.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2022-08-18 10:48:45
Quote: there's three ways:
1: they got the metal in a previous run without him.
2: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 spawned.
3: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 was opened.
This bears repeating, because in most cases personal drops are distributed zone wide, but in this case you actually need to be in experience range of the thing to get credit. Personally I think that's kind of dumb and should be changed.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-18 11:02:25
Quote: there's three ways:
1: they got the metal in a previous run without him.
2: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 spawned.
3: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 was opened.
This bears repeating, because in most cases personal drops are distributed zone wide, but in this case you actually need to be in experience range of the thing to get credit. Personally I think that's kind of dumb and should be changed.
This is for sure intentional to keep you from breaking into smaller groups and more rapidly completing objectives across the entire zone. This will become even more relevant as more teleports become active.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-08-18 11:10:59
Couple logistical questions mostly pertaining to Asura but seeing if anyone had any experience:
Do you have to enter with the same 6 players you queue with?
Can your party zone out/back in while in queue without losing place(ie get meds/job change)?
No, you can queue with alts filling the party and then invite your actual party members mid-queue.
Your party members can also zone out and change jobs etc. while in line. Only the party leader must stay the same and in zone at all times.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »For people that don't see the leech, when I went last night, it spawned in the rooms to the south of the start point and was initially outside of my widescan range.
Both times we've entered, the Obdella NM hasn't been popped at all, this is with constant wide scanning and full clearing each area.
It can however seemingly be force popped by using the gadget to respawn abject enemies.
for me first run no obdella even after clearing leeches, second time it popped only after clearing them. seems to always be at the right tunnel from the door
That is definitely not true, as I said above, yesterday it was at E-9 on the map for me which is south of where you start.
Edit: To be clear, I've killed the Obdella 3 times in my 2 runs. It has not (for me) ever been beyond the A1 door.
F-5, bottom right room of the 4 top sections before the A1 gate
E-9, in the tunnel between the right rooms of the bottom quad room formation, south of the Device at start
E-5, in the tunnel between the left rooms in the top quad room formation, before the A1 gate.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-18 11:13:12
So we tried Leshonn last night, and someone in the group was missing the plate so he was in hard mode, but we fought him for a while and here is what we finally noticed:
Has wind element that can go up on one hand (left iirc) and thunder that goes up on the other hand. When he has one element up, for example wind, he is very weak to ice so you can push him quickly with big MBs. If he gets the second (thunder) up, he takes very low damage from anything and can one shot just about anyone from a distance, so start kiting. Hit him with a thunder 1, which will heal him for anywhere from 20-40k depending on job/gear but the thunder will go away from his hands around 10 seconds later. We did this 3 times last night to verify that was what was happening.
So strat that I am seeing, (if you don't get the plate), is darkness Skillchain / Blizzard MBs. If he puts up second element, start kiting and hit him with a thunder 1 and wait about 5-10 seconds for the thunder to drop from his hand.
Unfortunately we timed out doing alot of testing on him, but we timed out at like 30%. Also our setup was not ideal: PLD, RNG, BLM, GEO, SCH, DRK as most of us were mainly getting unlocks.
edit: don't try higher than thunder 1. thunder 2 with shite gear cured him for 65k. Also, you can choose if you want to do blizzard or stone for your main damage. If he puts up both, just heal him with Aero to drop the wind element.
So everyone needs a plate for the effect to actually work? How does someone in the party not get the plate?
We got our KIs the night before but got to Leshonn with 1 minute to spare so didn't kill him. Last night we had an LS member fill in and we only farmed the KI for him to warp to the boss, so he didn't have the plate.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-18 11:15:51
So far as best I can tell the Obdella patrols fairly freely around Area A however, we found it in run #5 last night at Device A headed west to the Locked D door.
I would bet it is able to cross that threshold and transition itself from Map 1 to Map 4 by taking the area D passage from H-5 to F-6. Since it was on one side or the other of those doors both times we lost track of it and located it later.
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By Asura.Aburaage 2022-08-18 11:16:47
So I was able to replicate Porxie condition for objective completion last night, killed Porxie with 19% HP left with Leaden, got the objective clear again.
Edit: the entire HP bar I only did auto attacks and leaden for source of damage
correction: There was a reverberation skillchain from Atonement 300dmg and reverberation 200dmg, the rest are auto attacks and leaden
By RadialArcana 2022-08-18 11:17:08
I don't mind the queue, I do mind the stupid server capacity and disconnect issues, I've not been able to stay in for more than 30 minutes now before I just get disconnected and either can't get back into the instance or I do get back but cannot reinvite people. It wouldn't be so bad but when I disconnected on one of the characters I checked the zone and there was only 48 people in my particular part of the instance. That's not even that many, so it's just piss poor servers once again. It's honestly an experience I'd expect in a free to play MMO, not one that costs.
The comment of "lol Asura" isn't exactly something that flies either, I am not in control of who or what they let onto the server it's their responsibility if it's at capacity to stop people making a character or transferring here. But let's be real, they only care about milking as much money as possible out of people with this game.
I think you have to expect teething problems, especially if you're trying to multibox content and it's being hammered.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-08-18 11:22:52
Quote: there's three ways:
1: they got the metal in a previous run without him.
2: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 spawned.
3: he wasn't in xp range when chest#B4 was opened.
This bears repeating, because in most cases personal drops are distributed zone wide, but in this case you actually need to be in experience range of the thing to get credit. Personally I think that's kind of dumb and should be changed.
This is for sure intentional to keep you from breaking into smaller groups and more rapidly completing objectives across the entire zone. This will become even more relevant as more teleports become active.
I already had the plate, but I want to say that everyone still does get the muffin reward for opening the chest. I was fooling around last night and warped only one person to the Device A for the objective and everyone got the 100 muffins when I opened it.
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2022-08-18 11:26:27
Asura's que's are long today. getting an area is full msg when trying to enter, 70 groups seem to be the limit.
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By Asura.Badness 2022-08-18 11:55:12
even @ 70 groups its 2+hr just to get in :/
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By Asura.Msmissy 2022-08-18 11:58:21
even @ 70 groups its 2+hr just to get in :/
lol, 2? I'm thinking more like 3.5-4 hrs
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By Asura.Seizan 2022-08-18 12:02:57
Couple logistical questions mostly pertaining to Asura but seeing if anyone had any experience:
Do you have to enter with the same 6 players you queue with?
Can your party zone out/back in while in queue without losing place(ie get meds/job change)?
No, you can queue with alts filling the party and then invite your actual party members mid-queue.
Your party members can also zone out and change jobs etc. while in line. Only the party leader must stay the same and in zone at all times.
Oooh i havnt thought of that, ty for enlightening me! /cheers
By Chimerawizard 2022-08-18 12:04:16
how many people can be in zone before it hits cap instances? 24? (that's how many are in zone on my server. that'd be 1hr/4 groups, 15min per que, 17.5hr?
edit, okay, so at least 6 instances.
11hr 40min?
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By Asura.Aburaage 2022-08-18 12:05:15
Saw 33 people in outrakaz_u1 last night
By Guyford 2022-08-18 12:34:19
My KI is up in 13 minutes and ruspix is giving me the option to convert my ruspix plate into a ki. I had a little over 2k seconds stored so this is how it works.
If the time stored in your ruspix plate is greater than the time remaining until your normal ki is ready, you can use up your plate to get an instant KI.
This is why everyone was seeing ruspix time as the same as KI time after first run because we all had 0 seconds stored in the ruspix plate.
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By zigzagzig 2022-08-18 12:55:30
Asura 18pm , 146 peoples in zones , Event full
( 70 pages wait ) , about 3 hours + ......
No games in history as 3 real hours wait for 1 hour event.
Devs merit a Medal , made of Crap !
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-08-18 13:18:53
My kid went down for a nap, ran over to enter to try and get a run in while he was asleep. I showed up, I was 0745 entry with 0744 ahead of me. Got inside in 17 seconds. Suck it Asura. Your salty tears can season my BBQ corn on the cob tonight.
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-08-18 13:20:56
Has anyone posted on OF about how bad the que is?
Didn't someone do that for ambu and they finally addressed it?
By Meeble 2022-08-18 13:22:36
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »If this was an open world event it would be dominated by whoever could claim the relevant mobs the fastest or trade a thing to an ??? before everyone else could. You'd be turning it into a bot-fest. That would be a vastly worse experience.
I do agree, but you'd think after how many (3? 4?) 6man instanced contents, SE would figure out how to do it well.
I think we all would have loved to see something different(*cough* ilvl Abyssea), but for whatever reasons it seems like they just aren't interested in making non-instanced content anymore.
..maybe it's a fetish.
By RadialArcana 2022-08-18 13:25:23
member when they added the shinryu bcnm
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2022-08-18 13:25:41
Bonus
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-08-18 13:38:14
member when they added the shinryu bcnm
Ya, there was 1 other person in the zone when I went in, and he was afk. Crazy times.
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By Bahamut.Shozokui 2022-08-18 13:42:48
even @ 70 groups its 2+hr just to get in :/
Even on Bahamut, it's < 30s to enter.
By Murdock 2022-08-18 13:44:13
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »2 hours to 4 hours wait time QUEUE IS NORMAL EXCUSE ME some of us work and have families what DO YOU MEAN ITS NORMAL have you only been playing FFXI the past 5 years??
Just imagine you're a DRG, in ToAU, and you've got your party flag on... :P
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