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April 2022 Version Update
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 08:09:19
Has anyone tried killing the mimic after the patch and see if anything changes? I've never done it before but I noticed that kathwack works like dyna D Odin and ate my reraise instead of killing me not sure that's new or not
It's not.
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By Asura.Aldolol 2022-04-04 08:10:05
It's not new, that's just a way to get around it, might give it a go this month and report back but figure it will make no difference.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2022-04-04 08:10:07
I don't like having to do things every day / month and think it's uncouth to tie an in-game reward so directly to engagement / the billing cycle.
However, I'm not going to let adding Dynamis - D crap to the box 3 years after its release be the hair that broke this camel's back. Those papers and stuff are getting very hard to find on the AH (at least on Lakshmi) and I suspect most of them come from the goblin box at this point anyway.
If they were giving out R25 augmented Odyssey gear then I would also be beating the Pay2Win warning drums, but this content is really old and people aren't doing it as much anymore.
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By Bismarck.Zattano 2022-04-04 08:11:32
Has anyone tried killing the mimic after the patch and see if anything changes? I've never done it before but I noticed that kathwack works like dyna D Odin and ate my reraise instead of killing me not sure that's new or not
It casts death shortly after kathwack.
By RadialArcana 2022-04-04 08:11:46
Where is the ark angel shield from, ambuscade?
Also there is a rainbow mimic chest added.
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2022-04-04 08:16:27
if it hasnt been posted yet can also get a freshly charged mars orb when trading cracked mars orb
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 08:22:39
Cerberus.Darkvlade said: »if it hasnt been posted yet can also get a freshly charged mars orb when trading cracked mars orb
It was :)
juice, SP gobbie key or Mars orb so far.I wonder if you can get Venus if you give Venus or Venus if you give Mars :)
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2022-04-04 08:27:26
Where is the ark angel shield from, ambuscade?
Ambuscade's stylelock reward this month is Troll Gun.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 08:30:35
adding Dynamis - D crap to the box 3 years after its release
Bigger complaint is the Shinryu gear, which has an insanely punishing droprate from the actual content. I suppose we have yet to conclude whether it's from thud or loud thud, but still strongly suspect it's another omen body situation where nobody will do the actual content because the odds are so much more punishing.
Shards are a nice change imo, as are the omen cards, skirmish stones were useless.
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-04-04 08:39:40
I can't believe the Escha Zitah drops are still in the pools.
Have they removed the earlier HTBF drops that are obsolete?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2022-04-04 08:42:07
adding Dynamis - D crap to the box 3 years after its release
Bigger complaint is the Shinryu gear, which has an insanely punishing droprate from the actual content. I suppose we have yet to conclude whether it's from thud or loud thud, but still strongly suspect it's another omen body situation where nobody will do the actual content because the odds are so much more punishing.
I was already not doing the Shinryu HTBF because the drop rates are so bad. People here are posting 1/1000? I did like 5 on N and decided it wasn't worth the time.
Didn't they just mess up the release on that BC? It came out and cost not-very-many points and had a reasonable drop rate, but then people overwhelmed the zone and caused server issues, so they lowered the rates substantially until people were too demoralized to crash the zone?
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By Sylph.Ketsui 2022-04-04 08:42:57
Since everyone is doing it...
2 of my Venus orbs converted into a SP Gobbie Key. The rest got juiced.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 08:43:25
I saw a dread jupon and a mes'yohi rod. Seeing voidwatch era pulse as well, which I don't think existed before? Skirmish stones seem drastically reduced. Personally confirmed the 9th chest turning gold as a thud too(1/4 times, the other 3 were rainbow loud thuds). Loud thud in general seems much more common, in 21 orbs I've gotten 5 of them(2 following belligerant bangs and 3 from the 9th rainbow chest). Those resulted in borealis, delphinius, tartarus platemail, vexed slops, and kubira meikogai. Lustreless scale, hide, and wing boxes seem pretty common which might help the issues with nobody doing Sheol-A/B.
edit: 6th loud thud for a fu's scale :vomit:
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2022-04-04 08:45:15
I was getting maybe 1/4 on loud thuds with Mars Orbs before the version update.
I was only clicking the gold box after getting a Loud Thud because I didn't need Escha - Zi'Tah voucher fodder. I've gotten 4 Omen bodies from the AMAN chest since coming back in November or whatever.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 08:47:24
Yow. Another loud thud, this time rewarding a Voidtorso: BLM. (5 noise + loud thud, 2 serica cloth, p.run, p.blu, frayed sack fern, voidtorso.. so pretty clearly the voidtorso).
I'm guessing the loud thud pool has been so heavily polluted that while you see them all the time, the good drops are going to be just as rare if not more so.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 08:47:44
adding Dynamis - D crap to the box 3 years after its release
Bigger complaint is the Shinryu gear, which has an insanely punishing droprate from the actual content. I suppose we have yet to conclude whether it's from thud or loud thud, but still strongly suspect it's another omen body situation where nobody will do the actual content because the odds are so much more punishing.
I was already not doing the Shinryu HTBF because the drop rates are so bad. People here are posting 1/1000? I did like 5 on N and decided it wasn't worth the time.
Didn't they just mess up the release on that BC? It came out and cost not-very-many points and had a reasonable drop rate, but then people overwhelmed the zone and caused server issues, so they lowered the rates substantially until people were too demoralized to crash the zone? No, they raised the rates with that update. They did increase the merit cost from 10 to 30 to decrease congestion, but drop rates were even lower on release.
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-04-04 08:50:59
No, they raised the rates with that update. They did increased the merit cost from 10 to 30 to decrease congestion, but drop rates were even lower on release. that they raised the rates. They also said they'd never adjust it again. Since that update, folks are getting ridiculous drop rates and still missing pieces half a year later.
Shinryu BCNM is probably *** forever.
Thanks, whiners.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 08:52:52
People were getting ridiculous drop rates before that update as well. While it's impossible to know for sure that they didn't touch the relative slot ratios (though I find it unlikely they did), the total number of drops per kill is absolutely higher post-update.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2022-04-04 08:53:36
Increasing by .01% is raising the drop rate.
Also keep in mind that .01% is a one hundred percent increase from the original .01%
By marketing jargon, that's insane!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-04-04 08:53:54
So Shinryu HTBF is officially a relic. Dead content. Absolutely zero point in doing that nonsense unless someone is mercing it for you. Because you can just buy orbs or level mules w/e and spam Trove for knife/cloak way before you might ever see on in Shinryu (including time it takes to keep refarming merits). That is not the right way to address poor drop rates. I loathe the way they lazily throw these drops into a lottery system like this, but the actual content it comes from becomes completely worthless.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 08:57:38
I wonder if you can get Venus if you give Venus or Venus if you give Mars :)
i don't think so, it doesn't remove the item from inventory just reflags it, the dialogue is different and there's no obtains field
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-04 08:58:48
Yow. Another loud thud, this time rewarding a Voidtorso: BLM. (5 noise + loud thud, 2 serica cloth, p.run, p.blu, frayed sack fern, voidtorso.. so pretty clearly the voidtorso).
I'm guessing the loud thud pool has been so heavily polluted that while you see them all the time, the good drops are going to be just as rare if not more so. When a loud thud gives shitty drops don't forget there's a chance that something good you already own was supposed to be iwn the pool.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 08:59:51
When a loud thud gives shitty drops don't forget there's a chance that something good you already own was supposed to be iwn the pool.
i had 12 characters there, not sure what loud thud i'd be missing on all, but potentially yea
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-04 09:01:23
Increasing by .01% is raising the drop rate.
Also keep in mind that .01% is a one hundred percent increase from the original .01%
By marketing jargon, that's insane! I think it's pretty clear they increased the drop rates of the second group of items, to the point that with th8 we're close to >90% drop rate even on very easy.
They don't seem to have done much to the drop rate of the first group, which are still incredibly rare alas.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 09:03:26
Increasing by .01% is raising the drop rate.
Also keep in mind that .01% is a one hundred percent increase from the original .01%
By marketing jargon, that's insane! I think it's pretty clear they increased the drop rates of the second group of items, to the point that with th8 we're close to >90% drop rate even on very easy.
They don't seem to have done much to the drop rate of the first group, which are still incredibly rare alas. They all share slots; there's no reason to believe they adjusted the slot distributions instead of just bumping up the total slot drop rate.
The issue is that when getting cloak or knife is something like 1/2000 within a slot, the chance of getting them after changing from 0.8 slots per kill and 1.5 slots per kill (or whatever) is still absolutely ridiculous.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2022-04-04 09:05:19
I only got a loud thud and it was a dnc card and voidhead blm.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-04 09:05:54
i'm on board with adding shards/voids to the pool but they should have been thuds imo. even on asura some jobs dry up fairly often I don't think anybody minds the addition of the 220 dynamos items (plus the 40 volte).
It's more a matter of them not removing old, irrelevant items :-/
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-04-04 09:09:00
i'm on board with adding shards/voids to the pool
Honestly, they should have taken 5 minutes to create an all-in-one shard and void to the pool that can operate as a "voucher" for any one singular piece of shard or void. A "Cat's Eye" style item that immediately fulfills the requirement for the 2/3x shard/void and crafting mat (or just make dynamis shard login item buyable). That way, you're not throwing 200+ items into a lottery system to dilute the pool of better drops. But I see what their endgame was in actually including that.
I don't think anybody minds the addition of the 220 dynamos items (plus the 40 volte).
The volte is fine, but that's an incredibly lazy and underhanded way to increase the supply on those mats. I get why they did it, but imo something like Login Campaign would have been sufficient.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2022-04-04 09:10:35
Doing 220 shards and voids was a *** move on purpose, just like everything else. The dilution is always on purpose. They don't want it any other way.
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