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V20 Bumba Merc Team?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-13 11:00:18
How much gil would $500 buy now? 800m? 1bn?
2 billion give or take
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-13 11:02:22
There's also a person shouting claiming to sell V25, so obviously I had to ask. They said $500. I'm just spreading this knowledge in the hopes it makes everyone laugh as hard as it made me laugh.
I'm laughing at the fact that you asked and not the price.
Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:11:34
Honestly prob easier to merc v25 bumba then v20 both prob require a little effort from the buyer (though a stacked team can def 5 man v20 drop the geo would take a few runs but u will get it) the v25 would require some jse and a couple resets from a cor. You can kill him from 77 it's def not ideal and super stress on the kaustra but it is def a thing. I sell rp to afford stuff in-game or to help friends. Personally not into selling clears. But do like the debate side of this so let's argue ^^
Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:14:50
Also 1 run and 3 sch kills on v25 and god knows how many v20 wins on whatever random jobs have been tossed together over the years. I'm not an expert but at least have some experience to support my claim
By Taint 2025-01-13 11:19:21
Honestly prob easier to merc v25 bumba then v20 both prob require a little effort from the buyer (though a stacked team can def 5 man v20 drop the geo would take a few runs but u will get it) the v25 would require some jse and a couple resets from a cor. You can kill him from 77 it's def not ideal and super stress on the kaustra but it is def a thing. I sell rp to afford stuff in-game or to help friends. Personally not into selling clears. But do like the debate side of this so let's argue ^^
Cant you just use the v25 strat on v20?
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-01-13 11:23:33
Obviously. But then you aren't savage blading as much and thats everyones favorite thing.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-01-13 11:24:40
whats a bumba?
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-13 11:26:38
A 2-KI V20 is probably way simpler, but a combination of the two is like a guaranteed win. Purulent Ooze for instant 10%, wittle it down to ~79% (you can even helix/kaustra here), then bring out the big guns on KI2.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-01-13 11:32:55
What happens to his proc timer across KIs if you wipe the first time? Will he open with Denounce if he isn't procced on KI1?
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:39:15
Needs tp to denounce
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-13 11:41:27
I know the T3s keep their aura going into second fight, but never saw anyone mention what happens with Bumba going into a 2nd KI. Stands to reason that would also apply to Bumba. That's a good point I wasn't thinking of. That would be an instant loss if he keeps his aura. I guess you could do what Taint said, which is the current V25 strategy, but what I said in reverse.
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Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:41:34
Some things from Ki 1 to 2 do carry over say u sc ki1 for 10k I started ur ki2 dt wall this *** urself. But think this is common knowledge at least among the groups who have tried. At least if assume is as common as the uselessness of rayke on ki2. But ki2 def being pulled in fetter mode it's part of the strat
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Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:47:30
You also def can kill v20 with kaustra doubt u would even need two ki to do it. Bumba takes ALOT of magic dmg think that's known by now. But the savage blade strat is just so fun.
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Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:50:38
Anyone who has seen the kaustra do it's thing will note the speed at which bumba drops pre 40. Granted after 40 u are not hitting 85+ just not a thing. But that second add is really the issue the Regen is more potent then a helix and it's so risky to break 10k on a helix if ur not done with kaustra 4. So take the second add away if back to him just melting. U would def need a reset too but doubt a second ki
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Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 11:52:43
We also dnt know if there is a dt wall on v20 atleast idk myself. If there isn't ur going to hit insane kaustra dmg the whole time so even more solidifying 1ki prob enough at v20
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-01-13 12:14:26
I never tried w/ 2 KIs, so was curious, I'd assume it carries over also but never tried to verify.
The issue IME with people clearing v20 is that first proc window, if they get a proc in that first 2.5min then the clear rate seems a lot higher unless DPS is too slow and they roll into a second one. Most just seem to tolerate this and roll the dice that they get the one of the two "easy" procs, then try again if they get Denounced to death.
I've run this with various groups doing the same thing and it's real hit or miss, seems unnecessarily random. I always figured intentionally proccing it at v20 shouldn't be hard and would near guarantee a win unless you get a dumb add or aura. Folks seem hesitant to try it though. IIRC someone here said they used MNK for that purpose years ago.
I've wondered about the DT effect at v20, also, but never tried to see if it was there. If it is, it seems weak enough that no one noticed it until v25
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 12:18:28
Ngl I'm a bit curious how well does kaustra work for a 1ki v20 win over the savage blade route. The pig seems to be the ultimate issue for v20 over anything else well of course yaeg but that ends u v20/v25
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 12:21:04
I do like mnk for v25 though did thf at first but mnk is guaranteed DMG pre sp and I've seen it beat drg a few times to show its dps. U have to roll the dice either way idk which is better. I've even recently heard of three kiv25 bumba seems like a grasp imo and even more of a headache. Just wanted to point out there is a few ways to skin this cat as far as PT goes. But mnk to me seemed like the move it's so strong
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-13 12:40:37
seems unnecessarily random
He has to NOT use Perfect Dodge, Invincible OR Yaegesumi, out of a possible 5 SPs. So a 60% chance you will lose straight up. Then you have a 50% chance for aura proc method to be either Critical hits (the easiest to proc) or Simultaneous WS. The latter is harder to hit if people are spamming, but can be done if you see the first blue !! and everyone holds 2 seconds before firing off the WS. The problem is really just the players.
Folks seem hesitant to try it though. IIRC someone here said they used MNK for that purpose years ago.
This is how it was done early on for V15. Everyone off of Bumba the moment his window went up, MNK solo DPS would do multi-step SC (he'd get critical hits in between, so he would easily see if it was Crit aura), GEO would burst. If it wasn't either of those three, then it was Simultaneous SC just due to process of elimination. MNK would open and then rest would do SC timing WS and break aura, then finish him off. This would buy the group an extra 2.5 minutes if it was done on V20, but people saw you could "get lucky" by doing brute force method and figured it was easier to bash their heads into a wall dozens of times until it finally cracked instead of using another method.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2025-01-13 13:06:12
He has to NOT use Perfect Dodge, Invincible OR Yaegesumi, out of a possible 5 SPs. So a 60% chance you will lose straight up. Then you have a 50% chance for aura proc method to be either Critical hits (the easiest to proc) or Simultaneous WS. The latter is harder to hit if people are spamming, but can be done if you see the first blue !! and everyone holds 2 seconds before firing off the WS. The problem is really just the players. Tbf I got my V25 win with Shang and we took Bumba to 61% with him using Invincible on the clear pull. You can live through the bad SPs (maybe not Yaegasumi since longer, idk) by delaying BST Unleash till 30-45s~ into the zerg and it'll should still be up for another 15-30s~ by the time Invincible/Perfect Dodge wears. So the only real RNG perhaps may be the 2nd KI WC/Auras.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-01-13 14:17:05
You took a ten year break, managed to scrape by with 7000 total segments and no other clears, come back to the game and have V25 win before me?
By K123 2025-01-13 14:33:08
Ten years my arse. 3-4 at most.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2025-01-13 14:38:23
You took a ten year break, managed to scrape by with 7000 total segments and no other clears, come back to the game and have V25 win before me? 2-3 year break and finished all V25s T1-4 in under a month sir. I think Gigelorum took me the longest lmfao. Amazing what can be done after strats have been figured out. Except Bumba I guess, took 10-11 tries for that Wild card reset. Rest of them were within 1-4 tries.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2025-01-13 16:46:20
Ngl I'm a bit curious how well does kaustra work for a 1ki v20 win over the savage blade route. The pig seems to be the ultimate issue for v20 over anything else well of course yaeg but that ends u v20/v25 So one of the purposes behind the first KI in the 2 KI strat is to ensure he starts the 2nd fight in fetter mode because for some reason that makes his magic evasion insanely low (or maybe just dark magic evasion? can't remember). Without being in fetter mode, Kaustra won't hit nearly as hard.
So if you try to do it in 1 KI strat you may find Kaustra sucks unless you do some fiddling around to get him into fetter mode quickly beforehand. Maybe by spamming the element that heals him? Problem is the only way to know it works is if you let him do a TP move and he starts dropping fetters.
Asura.Shang
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 18:41:04
O good shout perg. So guess that alone kills 1ki v20 def good call
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By Asura.Shang 2025-01-13 19:05:08
Thinks it all magic eva since easier to land ooze on some in fetters
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-13 19:09:43
Fetter mode != absorb element.
He will enter fetter mode after 1 minute in v25, so i bet after all the positioning and setting up the sc he'd still be in fetter mode, even if it was fresh.
People do ki #1 for the million+ health it takes off.
V20 with v25 strat would be stupid easy.
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-01-13 19:27:27
The real question at this point is: What does V25 Bumba, 100% AFK Leech clear, sell for?
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-01-13 19:30:00
Based on google, it is a spider:
Wikipedia
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-13 19:38:51
The real question at this point is: What does V25 Bumba, 100% AFK Leech clear, sell for?
IMO, you cannot do this. The second KI requires all 6 members to be doing something.
You can, IMO, leech the first KI and can do nothing but RD, WC, and roll for KI#2, but you can't be completely AFK. The team can't win without everyone doing at least something.
If you send me $500 on Zelle I'll do it for you though.
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Looking for a V20 Bumba clear team. I lack the play time to sit and watch for shouts nor was I able to catch the V20 jump off.
My static is still plucking away at V15 Ongo and Mboze.
So I am a bit stuck.
Have many well geared jobs including REMA Brd with DPS Savage set. Send message please, either in game or ffxiah.
Thank you.
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