Pools Closed (Asura Is Full!)

Aint no god damn bans going to happen (not the amount that matter, that is)

Jesus copium *** broken record christ

Do you think people dont report the shout bots on asura. are you that stupid.

But if the JP do it!!!? As if there are zero jp on asura. for *** sake. Delusional.

Yeah, I'd expect constraints and they'd have to announce it well in advance and it be applied for. You're basically saying "they're not doing this to make money, they're doing it to avoid not not making money" which is basically the same thing.

2025 and eiryl still doesnt understand that SE listens to JP feedback exponentially more than NA feedback (and its not zero, so the statement is mathematically valid)

If the JP ***, SE will listen and do something productive instead of implementing a very shitty yell filter.

I think they do actually check reports, but I have no idea what criteria they use to determine if they act on them. Took less than a week of one report a day to get rid of all the legion and salvage bots on Asura. The dynamis ones went pretty fast too. Every lv1 merc shout mule I've bothered with has been gone in a few days.

From personal experience, if you shout to advertise a gil website you get banned in less than 12 hours very consistently. Don't think I've ever made it a full day on one of those.

On the other hand, there are obvious bots on Leviathan that I've reported dozens of times that never get actioned. Have tried reporting job point bots daily for weeks unsuccessfully on Asura, too. Never gotten the actual mercs behind the shouters banned. So, IDK.

The premise that JP are favored is certainly not substantiated, but it sure seems it sometimes. However, the premise that they are proactive and community-orientated about reporting bots cannot be denied.

The level 1 merc bots just rotate names, they're never banned.

You know this now, because they can't make new accounts, yet they still shout with the same name minus one letter.

lmlma lmlmb lmlmc lmlmd lmlme lmlmf lmlmg lmlmh he is on lmlmi now. you think he got banned 8 times. Absolutely not.

That's certainly feasible, but URL shouting bots absolutely do get banned and very quickly.

Yes, the literal gil site bots, thats a given. That's different.

Just tried to login and one char it said server busy and now keeps saying char already logged in :\

If they plan to keep Asura closed, they might wanna increase the cap on sparks or something.

Can't follow that logic. I'd love it. No reason to do it.

Literally defeats the purpose of closing Asura in the first place.

Just open Asura, the original noahs ark, everyone come here

Keep all the RMT bots locked on Asura. We don't need em over here.

Do you think that's because of an in-group bias or did NA just turn out to be a bunch of whiny babies who report everything so they stopped listening to us?

So it's ok for SE to ignore potentially valid reports because they consider NA community "whiny babies"? Are you not supposed to report violation of the TOS? Don't they literally encourage that? The hell do you mean "whiny babies"?

SE absolutely has a bias in favor of JP and they don't even try to hide it. I posted a link to ballista royale the other day, and I completely had forgotten that SE secretly planned for the winner of the NA ballista team to play the JP team, evidently they disclosed this to the JP winners but never told the NA. This gave the JP an unbelievably unfair advantage against NA players and they never acknowledged how biased and dirty of a move that was. They've been shamefully biased towards JP players for years.

It's "ok" for them to ignore reports not for any other reason than that 12.95 of the violator is worth more than your complaining about said violator.

Unless youre yelling the N word or shouting brosale, of course.

my boy waka absolutely got banned enough times that he's no longer wakakakaka and wakakakakakka and wakakakak and he's now wakablaeatb and wakamlaei and wakapisrt because all the names just mashing A and K are gone

there's no reason for him to rotate other that that, and I've never seen him reuse a name

(not staying up all night looking at waka's username, but I sure don't buy JP from anyone else. only merc I've ever used that didn't suck. hope he's doing well.)

My question came off as facetious, but I am actually curious about where the bias originates. Was there a time that they did listen to NA players, or has it always been this way?

Idk, but you could easily tell it's been that way for a long time just from how the game is promoted in live or in person events. They'd have one T shirt and a Mandragora booth in The USA for a "FFXI" event here and there'd be an entire parade in Japan. Can also be seen in their translation efforts.

If you show bias at the top level in any organization, it will trickle down to employees and be seen as acceptable.

There is no intentional bias, people just lack common sense.

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I've always seen the underlying preferential attention and promptness towards the JP playerbase as downstream of how SE handled the game's international launch, with JP players generally reacting pretty negatively when NA players started showing up on their servers. This is also why I personally believe Dragon Quest X has remained a JP exclusive title to this day. These are just my schizo theories, though.

It was SE's idea and no one else's to make the game international and feature an auto-translate dictionary to help people communicate. Pretty unheard of for the time. Would be foolish to think they don't ever regret that, though.

Capcom just recently decided to pull the rug from under international Street Fighter and focus entirely on the JP market. Could probably find countless other examples where the native language market gets better treatment than the rest, and not just from Japanese companies.

They went back on the shared servers and auto-translate thing for XIV, so definitely something they don't seem to want to do again.

The producer of DQX simply does not want to waste his devs time converting the game and then having to support western markets, he is happy doing what he is doing.

Square Enix have far less control over these games than people think they do, many of these games are run like mom and pop stores and SE simply funds them. If Fujito and the last 3 devs woke up tomorrow and said they are done the game would close. SE would not find more people and carry it on.

DQx was never converted cause the producer doesn't want to do it, SE don't force him to do so cause of money concerns. So because of that, it's never going to happen.

SE are not run like western companies, people really need to get that into their heads.

If anything, from what Yoshi P has said. they don't even really care about the JP audience that much anymore and see the west as the most important. That is literally what he said about ff16.

Odin is said to be primarily JP so if someone from the FFXI devs or someone with connections plays chances are they also picked Odin which could explain why bans are handled more swiftly over there, if that's true.

Well, at least the learned that lesson. I can't remember that I've successfully managed to communicate anything of importance with auto-translate to a JP player and the very few times a JP player attempted to communicate something important to me I failed to understand it.
All it's good for is making smutty remarks that most likely get lost in translation if you'd try to send it to a JP player.

Also the majority of JP players avoid interactions with NA, or english speaking players in general. Shared servers of certain regions only introduce latency issues and add zero benefits.

This is just dumb to keep locking down server after server. Will they all be locked down eventually? First Asura, now Bahamut, next is?

After they close odin, it will take so long to close the 4th server, asura will reopen.

It is incredibly stupid to do. But that's never stopped them before.