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Iron Giant Ambuscade V1
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-10 11:51:18
When GEO gets indi-stp, they'll care about using geo
The meta is the meta. It's better to run away twice than not have rolls. Same for brd, it's better to run away twice than miss 7 song effects. (4+honor)
Plus, of course cor has shooties and leaden.
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-10 12:34:24
Can try it with SMNs if you want DPS to stand out of range. Something like SMN SMN SMN GEO PLD COR. Physical BPs/Physical Shooting on Frostnought for first 15%, then do magical Blood Pact: Rage vs Blazenought (except Ifrit) and Leaden Salute spam when Frostnought freezes. Alternate avatars for appropriate damage type. GEO/whm for barblizzard/indi-attunement during manafont, malaise on red, frailty on blue.
Try it :)
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By Sylvebits 2025-02-10 14:43:07
Stupid question: If the main gimmick of this ambu is dispel spam why does everyone keep throwing COR and BRD supports in their setup? 1-You can run away from Turbine Cyclone.
2-Its only the first 15%. Once you take one of them down to 85% and it deactivates, Turbine Cyclone essentially goes away. You can rebuff without worry of losing them, unless you kill really slow.
This is what I thought the strategy would be… burn it to 85 with basic buffs then rebuff at 85 to burn : o but everyone said this would be a hard month..
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-10 14:52:16
Every month that isn't frog month is "hard month"
Whiners. Ugh I have to turn. Ugh I can't use cor. Ugh they dispel. Ugh I have to do magic damage.
If you can't just mash savage blade it's too hard.
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Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-10 14:56:16
Wow, so watching the log and running out of range of Turbine Cyclone is "hard". Not getting owned by Pain Sync is "hard". Not getting terror'd by Bill Toss or following a moogle for 5 minutes is "hard". Not watching the log and stunning Just Desserts is "hard". Anything that requires using two eyes and the joysticks/buttons on your controller is "hard".
Just plain old fashioned laziness
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VIP
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 883
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-02-10 15:01:56
joysticks/buttons on your controller is "hard" I mean if you are playing ffxi on a controller you are indeed choosing hard mode.
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By Nariont 2025-02-10 15:15:43
If i cant go in as a dd, and hit my ws of choice mindlessly and win, its a skip month
By Sylvebits 2025-02-10 17:08:22
Wow, so watching the log and running out of range of Turbine Cyclone is "hard". Not getting owned by Pain Sync is "hard". Not getting terror'd by Bill Toss or following a moogle for 5 minutes is "hard". Not watching the log and stunning Just Desserts is "hard". Anything that requires using two eyes and the joysticks/buttons on your controller is "hard".
Just plain old fashioned laziness
I'M NOT saying that, everyone else was lol.
joysticks/buttons on your controller is "hard" I mean if you are playing ffxi on a controller you are indeed choosing hard mode.
:S I'm not even gonna
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Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4561
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-10 17:28:49
Wow, so watching the log and running out of range of Turbine Cyclone is "hard". Not getting owned by Pain Sync is "hard". Not getting terror'd by Bill Toss or following a moogle for 5 minutes is "hard". Not watching the log and stunning Just Desserts is "hard". Anything that requires using two eyes and the joysticks/buttons on your controller is "hard".
Just plain old fashioned laziness Anything that goes behind pressing "start" on the bot and going afk is hard.
By RadialArcana 2025-02-10 17:37:21
The great thing about Ambuscade is it's easy or not based on the jobs you have available, not everyone has every job at 99 with perfect gear.
Also some of you need to calm down, you're waiting to jump on someone at the least opportunity.
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-10 18:38:52
I'M NOT saying that, everyone else was lol.
I was being sarcastic when I wrote this, it wasn't directed at your comment, just poking fun at the discourse in general. Sorry, i'll use my notserious voice next time
By Shichishito 2025-02-10 20:47:44
The meta is the meta. It's better to run away twice than not have rolls. If you throw the meta at something that is designed to defy the meta it's not meta it's this:
Also SE in their eternal wisdom decided against regional servers during the low bandwidth era and they never properly upgraded. At the same time they throw this reaction based game design our way.
If you build shout parties chances are you get players whos connection experience is very different from yours and I'm convinced that even if everyone in the party ran react and ja0 you still couldn't dodge this stuff reliably simply because of latency, lag and choke.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-10 21:14:48
Turbine is VERY easy to run away from. People are just bad.
No excuse at all for this one.
Fishbitches, was legitimate before the change. But that's pretty rare.
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By Sylvebits 2025-02-10 21:39:04
I'M NOT saying that, everyone else was lol.
I was being sarcastic when I wrote this, it wasn't directed at your comment, just poking fun at the discourse in general. Sorry, i'll use my notserious voice next time
Bless yoooouu
By Shichishito 2025-02-10 22:28:41
Turbine is VERY easy to run away from. People are just bad.
No excuse at all for this one. Made a test run on VE solo (connection tends to be worse in party) where I'd just focus on running, no WSing. Stood at max melee range with 18% movement gear equiped waiting for WS animation startup and ran asap. I'd say I made about 15-20 attempts and didn't manage to outrun a single WS.
Guess I'm just bad.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-10 22:50:47
And if it did, you are, in fact, maybe the worst player, ever. No exaggeration.
By Shichishito 2025-02-10 23:51:25
And if it did, you are, in fact, maybe the worst player, ever. No exaggeration. There is not much room for skill in this test setup, it's a simple reaction test. You watch the screen and push/hold d button at the right time. From how you described it the reaction window must be rather generous. Maybe I suffer a severe disability I'm not aware of, wouldn't be the first time I get diagnosed in the internets, but maybe:
chances are you get players whos connection experience is very different from yours
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-02-11 00:27:56
Ok. Had to unblock the guy to see who Eiryl was talking to.
VD1 test as SAM to see if kiting Turbine Cyclone was possible. Called trusts, engaged, fought Frostnought until I saw red lines (this move could only be Turbine Cyclone since that's the only TP move the giants use in the first phase). Was able to range every single TP move just by watching the monster's TP move go off (not even reading the log). Obvious trolling. Back to the list.
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By Shichishito 2025-02-11 01:44:34
What is this supposed to prove if you do it on your setup in your location with your connection?
I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying people from different locations can have a very different playing experience than you do.
BG Ambuscade Archive:
Old Thread:
Key Items:
Arcana
Fei'yin HP#2: 3 weapons right in front of crystal
Upper Delkfutt's Tower #1: Lots of pots if you drop down a floor
Ifrit's Cauldron #1: couple of bombs in front of crystal
Videos:
Kaggra NINx2 PT VD 6min (JP): https://youtu.be/x2zwHBQNAu8
Logical NIN SOLO N - RDM SOLO E/VE (NA): https://youtu.be/XI-axEq3tkY
Kaggra RDM SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/7OyuSI8BZO4
Lute NIN SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/a3oHj17ZuuY
Lute SAM SOLO E (JP): https://youtu.be/InVuMnRKFFU
Key Notes:Frostlad:
Cyclone Turbine: High area of effect damage, dispel, <20 range
Seismic Impact: AoE Slow, Terrorize, high damage, hate reset
Arm Cannon: AoE fire damage, Max HP/Max MP down
Incinerator: Conal fire damage, burn
Scapula Beam: AoE damage, all stats down
Eradicator: AoE damage, weakness, <20 range
Ballistic Kick: Conal damage, hate reste, Encumbrance
Blazelad:
Strategies:
Very Difficult
Ranged Setup: RUN, COR, COR, BRD, WHM, GEO.
Two shooty boys, one doing Last Stand on Frostlad and the other doing Leaden Salute on Blazelad. (Which is weird because the attempt prior, the magic and physical resists of both were reversed?)
Keeping them similar HP negated ALL of the mechanics. The two only spammed Cyclone Turbine the entire time. No Eradicator. No chat messages. No two-hours. No blizzaga. No invulnerable. No regens. Nothing.
Cyclone Turbine over and over. Despite the RUN being buffless the entire time, it was pretty non-threatening.
The problem? It took 15 minutes and our COR's are geared to the teeth with full REMA buffs from the BRD and GEO.
If the intended method of doing this is keep them close in HP, then that leads to unending Dispel spam, then melee is absolutely not an option. Even in full m.eva gear, it would be a matter of seconds before you lose every buff you have.
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