Bahamut.Revision said:
Gilgamesh.Alyria said:
I said stop. You all need to just ignore and continue on without feeding fires.
No, you need to start. Or someone. He needs to be banned from forums. Period. No one has the balls though.
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Leg Armor!
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Leg armor!
No, you need to start. Or someone. He needs to be banned from forums. Period. No one has the balls though. +1
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Carbuncle.Zanno said: I think it would be hard to replace kitty pants with any of the augments available. I honestly believe that if you dont have BH you might as well spend some time trying to get them, either way, if you get these pants as a substitute for BH then when you eventually get your hands on a pair you'll regret your choice. Just what i think anyway.
Prolly be better off getting these pants for a job that cant use the BH's except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice Bismarck.Maxse said: Carbuncle.Zanno said: I think it would be hard to replace kitty pants with any of the augments available. I honestly believe that if you dont have BH you might as well spend some time trying to get them, either way, if you get these pants as a substitute for BH then when you eventually get your hands on a pair you'll regret your choice. Just what i think anyway.
Prolly be better off getting these pants for a job that cant use the BH's except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice This, and at most, takes 2-3 hours to repeat? Shorter if you're organized. Bismarck.Maxse said: except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice I love you Revision.
Also for THF; Haste+3% and ACC+7 is pretty good even if you have Homam/Skadi. Swap to Homam for spells, just as you would swap out any other piece when casting for fast cast/haste(In cases where you want less recast time, or fastcast) I still like the HP/Enmity/PDT combo for PLD. We use PLD/RDM in sea quite often because of all the AoE moves the mobs have, phalanx and max shield/PDT really does a great job, so those pants are interesting:D WHM is the winnere here maybe? MP/-Enmity and Cure potency +5%. Let alone the potency increase is equal to that of the Roundlet Earring worth like 2-5M(server dependant) Fairy.Tbest said: Bismarck.Maxse said: except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice Because if it's better than what they have, it takes little time to replace them afterwards. As for not being hard, We went 1/6 on haidate which went to another mnk when my sky shell started, after that, th3-th4 on all kills, we did not see another pair until 2/21, so needless to say, even being first in line, it took a LONG time to get haidate.
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Bismarck.Maxse said: Carbuncle.Zanno said: I think it would be hard to replace kitty pants with any of the augments available. I honestly believe that if you dont have BH you might as well spend some time trying to get them, either way, if you get these pants as a substitute for BH then when you eventually get your hands on a pair you'll regret your choice. Just what i think anyway. Prolly be better off getting these pants for a job that cant use the BH's believe me i know, I've changed my body piece 4 times already. @ vegetto maybe it takes 2-3 hours. how long does it take to kill byakko? and even so, it'll take 2-3 hours if you got ppl for it. Atleast on this server there's still ppl shouting for hours for th first 2 mini expansion fights =P edit coz my slow writing: i was 0/5 or 6 on haidate too, eventually i just said F this and bought them. wow.... this augment class is a huge let down for the most part....
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@Zanno? I think we're arguing the same point here? I'm saying there's no reason not to get these pants and then replace them once you get kitty pants.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/index.html#shantotto
Go here for augments for the pants. it is posted on PoL site now Fairy.Vegetto said: Fairy.Tbest said: Bismarck.Maxse said: except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice Because if it's better than what they have, it takes little time to replace them afterwards. As for not being hard, We went 1/6 on haidate which went to another mnk when my sky shell started, after that, th3-th4 on all kills, we did not see another pair until 2/21, so needless to say, even being first in line, it took a LONG time to get haidate. Kujata.Matricide said: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/index.html#shantotto
Go here for augments for the pants. it is posted on PoL site now lol day late dollar short but thank you for the effort The pants Augments are posted. Movement speed! >.>
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/index.html#shantotto We've already seen them like 4 pages back. :P
HP +25 Enmity +4 MP +25 Enmity -4 Accuracy +7 Attack +7 Ranged accuracy +7 Ranged attack +7 Evasion +7 Magic accuracy +4 Magic attack bonus +4 Haste +3% Double attack +2% Critical hit damage +3% Skillchain damage +5% Conserve TP+5 Physical damage taken -4% Magical critical hit damage +10% Magic burst damage +10% Kick attacks +5 Cure potency +5% "Sic" and "Ready" ability delay -5 Song recast delay -3 "Barrage" +1 "Elemental Siphon" +20 "Phantom Roll" ability delay -5 "Repair" potency +10% "Waltz" TP cost -5 Pet: Accuracy +7 Ranged accuracy +7 Pet: Attack +7 Ranged attack +7 Pet: "Store TP" +8 "Subtle blow" +8 Pet: Magic accuracy +7 Movement Speed +8% Fairy.Vegetto said: @Zanno? I think we're arguing the same point here? I'm saying there's no reason not to get these pants and then replace them once you get kitty pants. i agree, but that is as long as you couldnt get any more useful pants for a non-byakko job. If you can find good use for a pair of mage pants for example, atleast I'd go with mage pants and keep trying for byakko, rather than go 3% haste melee pants til i get byakko and wait with getting the mage pants i want. (just an example) dunno if that made any sense hehe Bahamut.Ashua said: wow.... this augment class is a huge let down for the most part.... The real question is will the movement speed stack. if so that would be sic. kiting sandworm around with 20% movement speed.
I also put the augments on the first post also for ppl to see it clearly than looking through pages.
Fairy.Tbest said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Fairy.Tbest said: Bismarck.Maxse said: except you can undoubtedly repeat the quest so it wouldn't be a bad choice Because if it's better than what they have, it takes little time to replace them afterwards. As for not being hard, We went 1/6 on haidate which went to another mnk when my sky shell started, after that, th3-th4 on all kills, we did not see another pair until 2/21, so needless to say, even being first in line, it took a LONG time to get haidate. I have been doing a bit of sky recently help some people get items they need for new jobs that they didn't get when they did sky the first time round and we are current 0/4 on BH and 1/4 on Dlegs. And as you can imagine the line for BH is pretty long. I'm getting Haste+3% Acc+7 for DRK until i get homam pants for sure.
After i get those I'll switch to Physical dmg taken -4% and Movement speed+8% for sure. Not as good as gaiters, but I dont camp Tiamat, and i dont have 12-15M gil to spend on that:P I really like these legs! Seems like WHMs got some new sexy pants too! MP+25 Enm-4 Cure potency+5% ftw. Movement speed gear already doesnt stack, there is no reason to think they would change the formula now but i suppose its not impossible.
the haste +3% and acc +7 stood out to me right away for my thf. don't have homamz yet so it's an obvious upgrade from my bravo's. all of a sudden these pants don't look so ugly.
edit: grammorz Most eq doesn't stack. Quickening from Sprinter's shoes or swift shoes kupower will stack though. And Jig/Mazurka stack with eq as well I believe.
Asura.Eeek said: I do see a nice niche option for the soloing THF: Evasion 7 and Ranged Accuracy 7. You usually have to give up most good evasion gearslots for ranged accuracy when firing to consistently lands bolts on anything worth a damn. Given this situation, these pants beat the hell out of Denali pants.
Admittedly, I didn't think about this. Landing those few extra Bloody bolts would be a Godsend. :D Bahamut.Fyyvoaa said: I'm getting the mage pants for my blm for sure most likely, just not sure of augments (Movement speed ... and what else would be good?)
also I wonder how hard or easy this mission set is going to be, I actually still haven't finished the moogle one yet. Movement Speed +8% PDT -4%? That's currently looking like a non-Gaiters BLM's best option to me, MACC MAB is slightly more damage than Mahatma Slops but it's also inventory -1 as you still have to carry Mahatma for Stoneskin. for show n giggle i am debating to use the melee piece with either:
Movement/Haste+3% Movement/Eva+7 Movement/Racc+7 or Eva/RAcc7 All really for soloing and show on my THF n RNG. I rly like the movement speed. Not easy to get a perma piece. <damn wait list> Lol for some reason I bet I'm going to see mnks out there w/ a kick attacks+5 augment :(
Fairy.Vegetto said: Lol for some reason I bet I'm going to see mnks out there w/ a kick attacks 5 augment :( MCRIT augments incoming! :\ |
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